Journey, Not A Destination

[MsGhettoBooty]

My H had acupuncture for tennis elbow--worked.

Yup... good stuff. Also, my uncle is a Chinese herbologist. Some of the teas are HORRID, but hey... it works. (For most and depending on the type of case)

Or even a gas-powered remote control car would be cool. They can go 60+ mph. They're expensive too.

Teee heeee! Nanner nanner.... I have a RTR MCD 4x4 Race Runner 29cc Buggy. And yes... it's mine... not Sean's. LOL!!!

-Sheryl

 

[Steve]

Teee heeee! Nanner nanner.... I have a RTR MCD 4x4 Race Runner 29cc Buggy. And yes... it's mine... not Sean's. LOL!!!

-Sheryl[/COLOR]

OMG you are hawt.

 

[Trevor M.]

Haha, that's how I've always been.

The further I go though, the more I realize I always want to be helping overweight populations 'shape up.' It's just my natural fit in all this. However, I have quite a few friends in the industry and a vast majority of them are peformance or rehab based. That's just not my cup of tea, even though I often times shift to performance based training myself and love being an 'athlete.'

I also have friends on the nutrition side of things, but it's a bunch of clinical BS and I can't stand some of the infromation they spew. They'd never recommend someone taking in 1 gram of protein per pound of LBM.

You are young. However, college isn't too far off. I'm sure you are seriously thinking hard about it. Just think harder, lol. Where does your passion lie? Obviously you love the human body and the sciences dealing with it. But is there a specific profession/activity that you'd like to apply those sciences too? A specific population you'd like to help?

Didn't I tell you to get this book? It's a great one.

Both amazing books.

Starting strength, the first time you read it, you'll think gee, that was nothing new. You have to look past the simplicity of the information and understand that he's teaching you how to cue the basic lifts better than anyone has ever put on paper.

Practical programming is a book that ANYONE getting into the industry should HAVE to read.

Where are you trying to order them from?

Here's the link to the actual site, not sure if you have it or not:

Honestly, IDk. I've very lost on the whole profession idea. my focus is just finishing high school (coming into my senior year) right now.


I'm just not aware of many careers in this field.
Exercise physiologist looks good if you can find a job. However, the pay doesn't sound great.
Physical education, sounds like a fun degree. Although, I'm not about to work with 7year olds every day of my life making a set salary and not getting raises.
Sports doctor sounds really fun. However, again I think that's like an 8 year degree and I can't do that.
C-PT, great. But, I wouldn't want that to be my "profession". Its something I plan to do. But, I wouldn't trust it to support me as my only job.
RD, sounds kinda interesting. Working in a clinical facility and outside of it. Seems to make "good" money at around 40G usually. Although, I have my doubts about it. sounds like a lot of desk work and sounds as if your very "set" in what your allowed to "say" to clients.
PT, sounds really great. However, that would be at least 6 years in college.

I plan to get certified as a C-PT regardless of which career I do choose. A I know I want to do that.

Besides those, what else is there?



Haha, yeah that's a book you recommended to me. Can't tell you how much I've learned from it.

Never seen that store before, I'm assuming you stand for it's trustworthiness (is that a word?) lol.




Out of stock^.

I can't wait to read both .

 

[Steve]

Honestly, IDk. I've very lost on the whole profession idea. my focus is just finishing high school (coming into my senior year) right now.


I'm just not aware of many careers in this field.
Exercise physiologist looks good if you can find a job. However, the pay doesn't sound great.
Physical education, sounds like a fun degree. Although, I'm not about to work with 7year olds every day of my life making a set salary and not getting raises.
Sports doctor sounds really fun. However, again I think that's like an 8 year degree and I can't do that.
C-PT, great. But, I wouldn't want that to be my "profession". Its something I plan to do. But, I wouldn't trust it to support me as my only job.
RD, sounds kinda interesting. Working in a clinical facility and outside of it. Seems to make "good" money at around 40G usually. Although, I have my doubts about it. sounds like a lot of desk work and sounds as if your very "set" in what your allowed to "say" to clients.
PT, sounds really great. However, that would be at least 6 years in college.

I plan to get certified as a C-PT regardless of which career I do choose. A I know I want to do that.

Besides those, what else is there?



Haha, yeah that's a book you recommended to me. Can't tell you how much I've learned from it.

Never seen that store before, I'm assuming you stand for it's trustworthiness (is that a word?) lol.




Out of stock^.

I can't wait to read both .

Off the top of my head, I can't think of more. But there certainly is. If I got into the athletic development side of things, I think I'd want to be a strength coach for a university. I loved college life and could see myself being involved in it again, somehow.

I also have thought about pursuing the teaching side of things. I think it'd be cool to be a professor at a university as well as a personal trainer. My passions are helping people and teaching people. So it fits. I think I'd be happy.

I've thought about phys ed teaching route and it just isn't my cup of tea. From what I remember of gym class and health class, they just sucked compared to what I'd view as the ideal. And I wouldn't love it enough to fight the uphill battle it would take to change the curriculum.

I've thought about starting a huge kids camp. Kind of like your basic fat camp but it would be far from basic.

Writing a book, creating a website, fitness studio, athletic trainer......

I could go on and on. The possibilities are endless. And you certainly don't need to decide now. You still have plenty of time. Once college rolls around, you'll have to decide if you want to take the phys/kines route or the nutrition route.

You seem to shy away from too much schooling. I can tell you that I hated school in high school. I got mediocre grades. Had tons of fun, but that's all I cared about. Once college rolled around, I fell in love with the concept of school. Mix some great professors with an area of study that you have a passion for and you'd be surprised how many years of schooling you can tolerate.

As for as the NSCA cPT.... as soon as you're able, I'd get the book and take the test. It's not very hard.

And congrats on reading that phys book man..... not many people your age would sit down and read something of that magnitude. I said it before.... keep that kind of stuff up and you'll be well ahead of the pack.

Understand, in college, many of the students are just learning the basics about the sciences of the body.

Edit: To add, the site is legit. You can order through them. It's actually the publishing company of Rippetoe's books. I've ordered from them numerous times.

 

[Trevor M.]

Off the top of my head, I can't think of more. But there certainly is. If I got into the athletic development side of things, I think I'd want to be a strength coach for a university. I loved college life and could see myself being involved in it again, somehow.

I also have thought about pursuing the teaching side of things. I think it'd be cool to be a professor at a university as well as a personal trainer. My passions are helping people and teaching people. So it fits. I think I'd be happy.

I've thought about phys ed teaching route and it just isn't my cup of tea. From what I remember of gym class and health class, they just sucked compared to what I'd view as the ideal. And I wouldn't love it enough to fight the uphill battle it would take to change the curriculum.

I've thought about starting a huge kids camp. Kind of like your basic fat camp but it would be far from basic.

Writing a book, creating a website, fitness studio, athletic trainer......

I could go on and on. The possibilities are endless. And you certainly don't need to decide now. You still have plenty of time. Once college rolls around, you'll have to decide if you want to take the phys/kines route or the nutrition route.

You seem to shy away from too much schooling. I can tell you that I hated school in high school. I got mediocre grades. Had tons of fun, but that's all I cared about. Once college rolled around, I fell in love with the concept of school. Mix some great professors with an area of study that you have a passion for and you'd be surprised how many years of schooling you can tolerate.

As for as the NSCA cPT.... as soon as you're able, I'd get the book and take the test. It's not very hard.

And congrats on reading that phys book man..... not many people your age would sit down and read something of that magnitude. I said it before.... keep that kind of stuff up and you'll be well ahead of the pack.

Understand, in college, many of the students are just learning the basics about the sciences of the body.

Edit: To add, the site is legit. You can order through them. It's actually the publishing company of Rippetoe's books. I've ordered from them numerous times.

Yeah, I bet that would be fun. Although, hard to get/find a job as a university strength coach. Oh yeah, the professor/trainer idea popped in my head a few times lol. But, they don't just accept teachers for colleges straight out of college I believe.

I wouldn't mind writing a book, along with those other things you suggested there lol.

Yeah, I likely will. Or, I could just double major ! Which I'm sure would be hard as hell.

Lol, yeah maybe. I just don't want to be in debt for the rest of my life from "years of schooling".

Is this the NASM book your talking about?

So you think NASM is better then ACSM? The ACSM "trainers" " guide book" is cheaper lol.

When I do take the test. I want a 100%.

Oh, btw, so your saying I shouldn't get
Since I have already (more then once lol) My other ex phys book?


Yeah, maybe I'll be a little bit ahead .

 

[Steve]

Yeah, I bet that would be fun. Although, hard to get/find a job as a university strength coach. Oh yeah, the professor/trainer idea popped in my head a few times lol. But, they don't just accept teachers for colleges straight out of college I believe.

I've seen some young profs.

Yeah, I likely will. Or, I could just double major ! Which I'm sure would be hard as hell.

I did a double major.

In the wrong areas of study... but I more than made up for it in self-teachings and was fortunate enough to have an 'avenue' to work on the application side of things via training.

Lol, yeah maybe. I just don't want to be in debt for the rest of my life from "years of schooling".

I would have been saying the same things when I was your age.

Now, here I am in a masters program, and I doubt this will be the end of my schooling. Most people are in debt their entire lives. And it's b/c of stupid things.... cars, credit cards, etc.

Education is worth it. And bust your ass, make a lot of money, and then who cares if you are in debt. I'm a firm believer that you should do whatever it takes to pursue your dreams. Money is a secondary concern. If your hearts in it..... ya know.

Is this the NASM book your talking about?

No. I was talking about the NSCA cPT cert. Not the NASM.

So you think NASM is better then ACSM? The ACSM "trainers" " guide book" is cheaper lol.

No. I think NSCA and ACSM are the best. I don't have any issues with NASM and when you consider what these things really are... you are really splitting hairs. They provide the tip of the iceburg, if that. All they're really for is proof that you can legally train someone.... and that I'd have to question even.

NSCA and ACSM seem to be the gold standard.

NASM I've noticed as a requirement for training jobs in many of my local gyms. In each, I've walked in and said, "So are you telling me you wouldn't hire me with a cPT or CSCS from the national strenght and conditioning association." Each gym said they certainly would. They were simply affiliated with NASM somehow. I didn't care to get into the details.

The CSCS is the grand-daddy of them all. I don't have it. Will I get it? Depends if I feel like it, lol. I might eventually.... but no time soon.

Oh, btw, so your saying I shouldn't get
Since I have already (more then once lol) My other ex phys book?

I'd spend your time reading other things. Keep expanding your knowledge.

 

[Trevor M.]

I've seen some young profs.

I did a double major.

In the wrong areas of study... but I more than made up for it in self-teachings and was fortunate enough to have an 'avenue' to work on the application side of things via training.

I would have been saying the same things when I was your age.

Now, here I am in a masters program, and I doubt this will be the end of my schooling. Most people are in debt their entire lives. And it's b/c of stupid things.... cars, credit cards, etc.

Education is worth it. And bust your ass, make a lot of money, and then who cares if you are in debt. I'm a firm believer that you should do whatever it takes to pursue your dreams. Money is a secondary concern. If your hearts in it..... ya know.

No. I was talking about the NSCA cPT cert. Not the NASM.

No. I think NSCA and ACSM are the best. I don't have any issues with NASM and when you consider what these things really are... you are really splitting hairs. They provide the tip of the iceburg, if that. All they're really for is proof that you can legally train someone.... and that I'd have to question even.

NSCA and ACSM seem to be the gold standard.

NASM I've noticed as a requirement for training jobs in many of my local gyms. In each, I've walked in and said, "So are you telling me you wouldn't hire me with a cPT or CSCS from the national strenght and conditioning association." Each gym said they certainly would. They were simply affiliated with NASM somehow. I didn't care to get into the details.

The CSCS is the grand-daddy of them all. I don't have it. Will I get it? Depends if I feel like it, lol. I might eventually.... but no time soon.



I'd spend your time reading other things. Keep expanding your knowledge.

That makes alot of sense. I've just been kinda hung up on "how to pay for it". Havn't really even thought about it like that before lol.


Haha, my bad. Read to fast lol. Ok so this is the book?
Its kinda old - published in 03...

Yeah, I have always heard good things about CSCS. Why is that cert held in such a high standard. And could I just get that first?

Really old, published in 2000...

Ok so, CSCS>NSCA>ACSM?
Lol, Hell if CSCS is the best then I'll just go for that one first.

BTW, I havn't read much into attaining certs. So, I'm not quite "up to speed" on how that goes.

 

[Trevor M.]

I did a double major.

In the wrong areas of study... but I more than made up for it in self-teachings and was fortunate enough to have an 'avenue' to work on the application side of things via training.

I would have been saying the same things when I was your age.

Now, here I am in a masters program, and I doubt this will be the end of my schooling. Most people are in debt their entire lives. And it's b/c of stupid things.... cars, credit cards, etc.
ya know.

How hard was it to double major? How long do you think it will take you to finish your masters?

Also, if you get your bachelors in one area of study. Can you come back and get your masters in a completely different area?

 

[Steve]

That makes alot of sense. I've just been kinda hung up on "how to pay for it". Havn't really even thought about it like that before lol.

Apply for scholarships. Financial aid. Student loans.

Haha, my bad. Read to fast lol. Ok so this is the book?
Its kinda old - published in 03...

Link didn't work for me. However, I wouldn't view the certification text as a tool to learn from. I mean you might learn some stuff from it. But view it more as a tool to use in order to pass the test.

Ok so, CSCS>NSCA>ACSM?
Lol, Hell if CSCS is the best then I'll just go for that one first.

I think you need a 4 year degree to sit for the CSCS.

Also, many majors at universities have a certification program built in. My buddy just graduated with and the ACSM cert was part of his schooling.

That said, I wouldn't make any decisions just yet.

 

[Trevor M.]

Apply for scholarships. Financial aid. Student loans.

Link didn't work for me. However, I wouldn't view the certification text as a tool to learn from. I mean you might learn some stuff from it. But view it more as a tool to use in order to pass the test.

I think you need a 4 year degree to sit for the CSCS.

Also, many majors at universities have a certification program built in. My buddy just graduated with and the ACSM cert was part of his schooling.

That said, I wouldn't make any decisions just yet.

Ahh, well I could just take that after college.

Oh, here is the link

Yeah, I'm not quite seeing it as a book to "learn" from. More of study material for the test, as you said.

Would it be benefitial to attain both Nsca and ACSM?

Lol, yeah, but I'm just bored and nothing better to think about right now.

 

[Steve]

Ahh, well I could just take that after college.

Oh, here is the link

Yeah, I'm not quite seeing it as a book to "learn" from. More of study material for the test, as you said.

Would it be benefitial to attain both Nsca and ACSM?

Lol, yeah, but I'm just bored and nothing better to think about right now.

No, these are logical questions and I was asking a ton of questions back then too. I still ask a ton of questions to those who are more advanced than me.

That's the book for the NSCA cPT.

I'd just get one or the other. And I'd wait until you find out what might be involved in your college program. No point in getting a cert now when one might come with your degee.

 

[Trevor M.]

No, these are logical questions and I was asking a ton of questions back then too. I still ask a ton of questions to those who are more advanced than me.

That's the book for the NSCA cPT.

I'd just get one or the other. And I'd wait until you find out what might be involved in your college program. No point in getting a cert now when one might come with your degee.

So don't get certified untill after college? I was thinking I could train people as a way to help pay for college, bad idea?

Oh, so you think your more advanced then me? lmao, just kidding .

Think I would benefit from getting that book now? Even If I wern't going to take the test for some time?

 

[Steve]

So don't get certified untill after college? I was thinking I could train people as a way to help pay for college, bad idea?

Nope. It's actually what I did. I trained without a certification believe it or not. The gym had no requirements. There were some certified trainers there, but I felt like I was more advanced then all of them, unfortunately.

Once you decide on a school and a degree, you'll know if a certification process is part of the degree. If it isn't, you can get certified your first year of school.

Oh, so you think your more advanced then me? lmao, just kidding .

Nope.

I honestly take every person I meet as an opportunity to learn something new. If not something about exercise/nutrition, it could be anything else.... human behavior, etc.

Think I would benefit from getting that book now? Even If I wern't going to take the test for some time?

Honestly, I'd hold off until you get to college. If you can find one for a really cheap price.... maybe if you'd like.

 

[Trevor M.]

Haha - alright, thanks steve!

I'm going to get practical programing and starting strength read before I look into that other ExPhys book. Definitely going to ask for those two.
The ACSM and Nsca book's look "fun".
Just noticed this book, Nsca's Strength and Conditioning Manual for High School Coaches (Paperback)


Looks like an interesting read...

Not really finding any great books specifically on nutrition...

 

[Steve]

Here's a good book with regards to exercise nutrition. I can't remember the books I told you before. This one is a little antiquated, but still very worth the read. You can find it used for cheap.



Lyle's books are all pretty good.

 

[Trevor M.]

Yeah, I'v been looking at his site recently.

I like his write ups.

Which book of his would be best to "learn" from?

 

[Steve]

Yeah, I'v been looking at his site recently.

I like his write ups.

Which book of his would be best to "learn" from?

Lyle's the best in the biz IMO.

The thing is though, all of his books are unique. They're not the kind of thing where you read and understand a lot about broad spectrums of nutrition. Rather, you learn more about a very specific application of dieting.

Ultimate Diet 2.0 is a good start. There's a lot of 'sciency' and general informational stuff packed in there.

 

[Steve]

You know what really pisses me off.

There are times when I'm in a long "back and forth" PM conversation. Or I'm in the midst of typing a long ass post.

Once I'm done, I click 'new posts' to see what's going on in the rest of the forum.

Before I started the post, there were 4 pages of 'new posts,' all of which I have NOT read yet.

Then once I'm done and click 'new posts' there's only one page.

I miss out on some of the stuff I think I'm involved in and it irritates the piss out of me!

Any solution?

 

[maleficent]

Multiple browser windows?

New posts is just that - new posts since you last clicked the new posts window... it doesn't seem to know whether or not you've read them or not... so put the new posts into one window - and then do your pm's in another window...

 

[Steve]

Multiple browser windows?

New posts is just that - new posts since you last clicked the new posts window... it doesn't seem to know whether or not you've read them or not... so put the new posts into one window - and then do your pm's in another window...

How do I become as smart as you?