kezzypear
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Ooo lucky you!!
Journey, Not A Destination
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Ooo lucky you!!
Hey Steve.. Good Morning! First of all, that was a good read from Lyle McDonald's. Very interesting and informative.. thanks for posting that!
Glad you enjoyed it.
It's one of the many books written by Tony Robbins. Love him or hate him, the guy actually has some good stuff out there. Great IMO.
It's the people the get fanatical over him that make him out to be magical. Which he's not. But, if you take his information for what it is, it can really help. And what it is, is simply a tool that teaches you how to use your mind rather than have your mind use you.
He's written on various topics such as finance and fitness. I stay away from that crap. That's not what he's an expert in. That would be like someone coming to me asking for help with their engine trouble. I don't like that he offers advice on things he isn't necessarily an expert in. However, with regards to the conscious and subconscious minds.... the guy knows his stuff.
I haven't read any of his books in a while. There are better "human development" authors/coaches out there. My favorite thing of his is actually an audio "seminar" called Personal Power II, I believe. I got the most from that.
And finally golf! This is a sport I call a "Sport you love to hate"! And, that's exactly what it is. For me, I can drive the ball around 200-250 yards but my short game is for shit! I can't chip, I can't put to save my life.. so, my key pointer to you to make your day go by with less frustration.. keep the beer cart near by.. she will come in handy!!! LMAO
I can whack the hell out of a ball. I've been to the driving range a few times. However, I've never even tried short stuff. And I imagine I'll be terrible because of that. I'll have fun no matter. And don't you worry.... the alcohol will be flowing for 72 straight hours on that trip!
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Steve, I agree with you totally, but I also respect those authors at TNation. But you're right -- I have taken measurements faithfully (surprise, surprise) for six months, and my muscles have not grown a centimeter, although I definitely have gotten stronger. McDonald's explanation makes MUCH more sense to me.
By the way, Round 4 is down for the count! I weighed in at 231.2 today.
Back is still sore. It looks like I'd be taking that break this week, whether I had planned to or not. I'm going to start the first day of weights next Saturday, since I actually want my day off to be during the week. And Saturday afternoon, the gym is dead anyway, which will really help when I'm learning all the new stuff.
7/7/07 is not far away now!
By the way, Round 4 is down for the count! I weighed in at 231.2 today.
Back is still sore. It looks like I'd be taking that break this week, whether I had planned to or not. I'm going to start the first day of weights next Saturday, since I actually want my day off to be during the week. And Saturday afternoon, the gym is dead anyway, which will really help when I'm learning all the new stuff.
7/7/07 is not far away now!
kezzypear
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Very lucky.
And I like your goal. "Improving fitness." That's a good goal to have.
Thanks!! I have been very 'good', and consistent with health and fitness for over a month, but didn't lose any weight, despite seeing and feeling big improvements in my fitness levels and my waistline... so I decided to forget about weight, and I threw away my scales lol!
Somethings I learned a long time ago:
1. T-Nation is certainly not the gospel. They have some greats in the industry who write for them. But some of these greats are in it for the money at this stage in their games.
2. Too often, scientific data can be manipulated to meet your desires.
I doubt I will even look for the study. But I am sure the test subjects were very deconditioned. We don't totally understand the various pathways of subjects like this. But I've said to you before, gaining muscle and losing fat is possible. Especially in the noob. So this is really nothing new.
I've worked with plenty of people at this stage in my life to be able to draw my own inclusions. I've seen people gain the good and lose the bad simultaneously. I've even seen it with my own body. It has always been short-lived.
I can think of one circumstance where it was contrary to the rest. A friend of mine with incredible genes. I am 99% certain he never touched anabolics.... yet, his body acted as if he did. He was able to lean down while getting noticeably bigger. Astonishing really. I wanted to kill him. He could have done very impressive things with his physique, but after college, he just quit the fitness scene.
I saw that in your journal, along with the goals that you murdered. A big congrats to you!
Hopefully you back recovers by Saturday. It should assuming you didn't *really* screw it up.
Towards the end of my *cycles* I always have aches and pains. The body can only take so much abuse. Especially for us mere mortals, with average genetics and recovery capabilities.
Some of these exercises can take some time to get used to. Especially things like push presses and pendleys.
That is part of the reason I want you to start out at a low/moderate intensity and build from there, week to week.
The other, and more important reason for the build up of intensity is the management of fatigue.
I'm anxious to see how you handle this routine. It's a fun one.
You are telling me. I can't wait. I love her. And I want to go to Hawaii. It will be a good month.
I'd rather see my measurements head in the right direction over the number on the scale moving a certain direction ANY day of the week. That, in the end, is what really matters.
If things stop working, come and see me.
bethann1156
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Good morning Steve! Stopping by to say hi and have a good weekend.
Britta Bear
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Morning Steve
awwww -that's so cute
Heres what someone else had to say about that article:
Bryner RW, Ullrich IH, Sauers J, Donley D, Hornsby G, Kolar M, Yeater R.
Effects of resistance vs. aerobic training combined with an 800 calorie liquid diet on lean body mass and resting metabolic rate.
J Am Coll Nutr. 1999 Apr;18(2):115-21.
The aerobic group performed four hours of aerobics per week. The resistance training group performed 2-4 sets of 8-15 reps, 10 exercises, three times per week.
V02 max increased equally in both groups. Both groups lost weight. The resistance training group lost significantly more fat and didn't lose any LBM, even at only 800 calories per day. (The reason the calories were so low was to really take any dietary variables completely out of the equation and compare the effects of the exercise regime on LBM and metabolism.)
The resistance training group actually increased metabolism compared to the aerobic group, which decreased metabolism. It seems that resistance training is a more significant stress to the body than a starvation diet.
This is from Testosterone Nation - The Hierarchy of Fat Loss
Bryner RW, Ullrich IH, Sauers J, Donley D, Hornsby G, Kolar M, Yeater R.
Effects of resistance vs. aerobic training combined with an 800 calorie liquid diet on lean body mass and resting metabolic rate.
J Am Coll Nutr. 1999 Apr;18(2):115-21.
The aerobic group performed four hours of aerobics per week. The resistance training group performed 2-4 sets of 8-15 reps, 10 exercises, three times per week.
V02 max increased equally in both groups. Both groups lost weight. The resistance training group lost significantly more fat and didn't lose any LBM, even at only 800 calories per day. (The reason the calories were so low was to really take any dietary variables completely out of the equation and compare the effects of the exercise regime on LBM and metabolism.)
The resistance training group actually increased metabolism compared to the aerobic group, which decreased metabolism. It seems that resistance training is a more significant stress to the body than a starvation diet.
This is from Testosterone Nation - The Hierarchy of Fat Loss
Good morning Steve! Stopping by to say hi and have a good weekend.
Thanks Beth, you do the same
Wow, in the link above, the competitor featured to the left side of the page is a friend of mine. I've talked about her on this forum before. That is great for her!
Curvie Girlie
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Oooh! HOT!
YAY Noel! She seems like a great person from her bloggy blog.
Congradulations on your LOVE!! YEEEEE!
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Now there are two things we have in common -- lacrosse and track. I weighed 165 all through HS. I ran the 440 and specialized in the 880, both pretty brutal races. Our mile relay team set a Colorado state record for a year, but that was 43 years ago!
I ran the 400M. That destroyed me. Most phyiscally demanding thing I've ever done. I didn't excel in that like I did with the 100M.