Is there a real reason?

Hope2

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Hi everyone,

Is there a real reason you need to have one day be cardio, and the next weight training. Seriously, I have no idea if there is a real reason.

What is a good work out schedule for someone that doesn't mind doing a work out every day if there is a method to the madness? :willy_nilly:

Cardio one day, pailates and weights the next? Can you work out every day if you want, or is that a big no no?:svengo: Every 4 weeks do you really have to change your whole work out, or can you get away with slight modifications?

I'm the kind of person where if I'm going to do it, I want to do it RIGHT...

Anybody wana teach me? :bigear:
 
Hey, I'm taking Health Studies in School and I'd be more than happy to help you out with your questions. The reason most people do weight training one day and cardio the next is because our muscles need time to rebuild themselves after a hard weight session. Obviously we are using our muscles when we do cardio however we are doing it in a different way, it becomes about endurance instead of just strenght. By alternating between these you make sure that you are consistently burning calories, while giving your body adequate time to rest and recover.
You should not work out every day. Our bodies do need rest and if you are working out 7 days a week, it is likely that you will become run down and get sick. It's best to take at least one or two days off a week. This doesn't mean you have to sit on the couch though, take a light walk or something like that, as long as it's fairly easy for you to do your body is still getting rest.
As for changing it ever 4 weeks. You DO NOT need to change it completely. Our bodies do get used to exercises, but adding weight every 4 weeks will cause your body to readjust, running 30mintues instead of just 20 changes it as well. Modifications are important to keep your body guessing, but this doesn't mean your whole plan needs to change. If you tell me what you are doing now, I'd be more than happy to show you how to modify it, or I'd just be happy to give you some stuff that you can do!! I hope this helps you!
As for personal experience I used the same basic workout plan for 2 years, changing weight every 4 weeks, and dropped 50 pounds, so it does work!
 
Hi everyone,

Is there a real reason you need to have one day be cardio, and the next weight training. Seriously, I have no idea if there is a real reason.

There is no need for this so it isn't really a valid question. There are plenty of ways you can structure an exercise program and often times it's not how you suggest above in your question.

What is a good work out schedule for someone that doesn't mind doing a work out every day if there is a method to the madness? :willy_nilly:

Cardio one day, pailates and weights the next? Can you work out every day if you want, or is that a big no no?:svengo:

Nobody can give you advice without first knowing more about you. Stats, goals, past experience, health issues, etc.

There isn't One Right way to go about things. What's right for one may be wrong for another depending on things such as goals, etc. So a training program must match these various factors.

Every 4 weeks do you really have to change your whole work out, or can you get away with slight modifications?

No.

Just b/c some magazine article or some guru says you have to 'confuse' your muscles doesn't make it true. You should take a break or change things up when you stop making progress or need a change.

I'm the kind of person where if I'm going to do it, I want to do it RIGHT...

Anybody wana teach me? :bigear:

Have you read the sticky threads?
 
If you choose to work out everyday, a circuit might be in your best interest. Preferably one where you have to run from station to station. If you stick with 1-2 exercises with 1-2 sets per muscle, there is no reason that you shouldn't be able to do this 3 times a weeks. The damage to your muscles will me minimal each workout, so you will be rested and repaired and ready to go the following day. Keep the intensity and reps high and weight low, and rest to a minimum between exercises. The running from station to station will also incorporate the cardio you desire as well as the quick intensity from the lifting. If setup properly, you can really get a great cardio/muscle workout from a circuit.
 
It's not that you have to confuse your muscles, however if you do modify your workout you do make progress faster. If you stick with the same weights, same cardio without ever changing the time, reps or weight you will eventually plateau. The idea of a circuit is a great way to go! While some feel that you need more stats to give you advice, at the end of the day our bodies are amazing things, as you continue to workout your body will become more efficient, and therefore you can challenge it more. Also something to think about is the choice between low weight, high reps or higher/medium weight (im not talking 100s of pounds) and lower reps (8-12). During the day the more muscle you have the more calories you burn at rest. So while low weight high reps builds great endurance, if you have slightly higher weight and do fewer reps you provide your body with a better opportunity to gain muscle which will help you lose more pounds in the long run. Steve is right though that it's easier to give advice if we know what you are doing already, however there are some properties of muscles and our body chemistry that stand true no matter who you are (unless you have some genetic abnormality).
 
If you choose to work out everyday, a circuit might be in your best interest. Preferably one where you have to run from station to station. If you stick with 1-2 exercises with 1-2 sets per muscle, there is no reason that you shouldn't be able to do this 3 times a weeks. The damage to your muscles will me minimal each workout, so you will be rested and repaired and ready to go the following day. Keep the intensity and reps high and weight low, and rest to a minimum between exercises. The running from station to station will also incorporate the cardio you desire as well as the quick intensity from the lifting. If setup properly, you can really get a great cardio/muscle workout from a circuit.

I'm not so sure how you can make this recommendation without knowing her goals.

A goal is not, "I want to workout every day."

It first must be determined what she's looking to obtain physically and then a program can be matched to said goal.
 
It's not that you have to confuse your muscles, however if you do modify your workout you do make progress faster. If you stick with the same weights, same cardio without ever changing the time, reps or weight you will eventually plateau.

Yea, thank goodness anyone who has a basic 101 level understanding of how physiological adaptation takes place realizes the importance of progression.

I believe I learned about Selye's General Adaptation Syndrome in highschool.

The idea of a circuit is a great way to go! While some feel that you need more stats to give you advice, at the end of the day our bodies are amazing things, as you continue to workout your body will become more efficient, and therefore you can challenge it more.

Actually any competent professional realizes and practices this very basic concept.

Just throwing recommendations at someone without knowing where they're trying to head is absolutely asinine.

For instance, if someone's goal was hypertrophy, explain to me how a circuit-style program would be optimal.

And that's the key word. Anyone and everyone can 'workout'. But when someone asks for advice, it's the duty of the people giving advice (who actually know what they're talking about) to lead them in the *optimal* direction.

Also something to think about is the choice between low weight, high reps or higher/medium weight (im not talking 100s of pounds) and lower reps (8-12). During the day the more muscle you have the more calories you burn at rest.
So while low weight high reps builds great endurance, if you have slightly higher weight and do fewer reps you provide your body with a better opportunity to gain muscle which will help you lose more pounds in the long run. Steve is right though that it's easier to give advice if we know what you are doing already, however there are some properties of muscles and our body chemistry that stand true no matter who you are (unless you have some genetic abnormality).

Oh how I'd love to discuss the sciences you believe hold true regardless when it comes to muscle growth, especially considering the fact that you like to throw blanket advice at someone.

What we know about hypertrophy:

It seems like you like to impress... or at least talk about the nuances that go into optimal programming. You're in luck... as do I.

Have you been looking at the stuff coming out of Japan with their KAATSU blood-occlusion research as it relates to hypertrophy? Interesting stuff for sure. It certainly supports the idea of including a variety of rep ranges and training methods in your periodization....

However, when you throw out the general advice to practice circuit training, the oft response from a 'client' will be a program that doesn't correspond well with what we know to be requirements in order for hypertrophy to occur.

Ya know, I'm sure the things you know about......

-Progressive overload over the long term

-Moderate tension - 65-85%

-High reps (8-12) that are sufficiently strenuous stimulate sarcoplasmic hypertrophy

-Low reps (4-8), sufficiently heavy, stimulate myofibrillar/sarcomere hypertrophy

-Sufficient level of cumulative work (total of sets*reps*weight)

-Accumulation of fatigue (rate of work done; ie, short rests, dropsets, etc. This is based on the concept of the acute energy deficit and the observed biochemical signaling pathways [MAPK, Na+/H+, Ca++, etc])

-Eccentric microtrauma (enhancing the eccentric component; activates numerous autocrine signals and mechanosensitive ion pathways)

-Moderate rate of loading to create a stable adaptation (5-10 lbs every 2-4 workout sessions)

The list goes on and on. And this isn't even including the thermodynamics of it all. Chances are slim with a dieting female that there will be any hypertrophy at all. If she's completely untrained or is carrying a good bit of excess fat, certainly some concurrent fat loss and muscle growth can occur. Outside that realm, and EVEN in that realm, she's not going to pack on enough muscle while dieting to make a significant difference in her metabolism.

The best to shoot for, especially for a female, is muscle maintenance. If you get more than that, great. But circuit training would not be my advice if this were the goal.

I'm wanking over the nitty gritty here, I understand. My point is....

Don't throw blanket advice out there before you know what the deal is.
 
I'm sorry if i some how offended you by giving advice. She asked for advice I gave it based on what information she gave us, and based on my experiences. If her goal was to workout every day, how is that not a goal in it's self. If your workout is walking and you do it everyday and thats your goal WONDERFUL. you are healthier for it.
I don't like to impress, I'm actually new to this forum, and thought I had advice to offer someone who said they wanted it. I didn't realize that there were regulars who automatically smack down newcomers.
At the end of the day we are all here (or at least i assume this is what we are here for) to support and give advice to each other. Not insult people "But when someone asks for advice, it's the duty of the people giving advice (who actually know what they're talking about) to lead them in the *optimal* direction."
 
I'm sorry if i some how offended you by giving advice.

Assuming I'm offended is sort of silly.

Stick to the topic. This isn't about me. At all.

She asked for advice I gave it based on what information she gave us, and based on my experiences.

You're new here. So I'll have a bit of understanding. The thing is though, when you are using this medium of exchange, there are no consequences for the things you say. Because of this, people tend to act carelessly at times. It's not that they mean or want to. It's simply the nature of said medium.

What I deem appropriate in response to someone asking very vague questions about their health and fitness would be further investigative questioning to piece together a complete and accurate picture of what's really going on in order to give not only individualized, but meaningful advice.

You can take that for what it's worth, since it's only my opinion... but having *reached* a good number of people using this medium of exchange over the years, it's certainly a real suggestion.

If her goal was to workout every day, how is that not a goal in it's self. If your workout is walking and you do it everyday and thats your goal WONDERFUL. you are healthier for it.

Hmm, do you actually help people for a living in this regard?

It would appear not, but I could be wrong.

The thing is, working out every day can be a goal once you determine what would be an appropriate workout.

Deciding workout frequency before knowing what's appropriate for a given goal in terms of exercise programming is pretty silly.

Example: Person A comes in asking how to lose fat while maintaining as much muscle as possible and also wants to do some specific conditioning for sport.

If Person B's advice is to workout every day.... he/she is probably going to get called for being incompetent.

There is a hierarchy of things that must be discussed beforehand.

I don't like to impress, I'm actually new to this forum, and thought I had advice to offer someone who said they wanted it.

And that's fine. I said you either like to impress or you actually like talking about the nuances. If it's the latter, I'm all for it. I wasn't labeling you by any stretch of the imagination.

I didn't realize that there were regulars who automatically smack down newcomers.

There is a select group of people with adequate experience who make sure the right things are being said to assure not only accurate and applicable guidance is being handed out, but safe too.

It sort of has to work this way when dealing with something as sensitive as someone's health on such a broad medium of exchange where anyone and everyone can chime in.

Is it about smacking down newcomers?

Hardly, again you're being silly. If a regular for years gave unwarranted or misguided advice, I'd say the same exact things. It's about maintaining the integrity of sound information and advice and keeping this place as effective as possible, is all.

Stop taking things personally.

At the end of the day we are all here (or at least i assume this is what we are here for) to support and give advice to each other.

Most certainly.

Don't commingle support and advice, however. They are two entirely different things.

Had you provided support, I never would have chimed in.

Had you investigated further gathering the *necessary* information required to give advice, I never would have chimed in.

That's not what happened though.

Not insult people "But when someone asks for advice, it's the duty of the people giving advice (who actually know what they're talking about) to lead them in the *optimal* direction."

This was not an insult.

If I intend to insult someone, I'm going to come right out and call said someone a fucking moron.

I don't think you are a moron, nor do I think insults are warranted here. They probably are never warranted but I'm not a fan of idealism.

I can see how you read that quote, but I wasn't implying that you aren't in the know. I was implying that if you are in the know, it's your duty to lead people in the optimal direction and in order to do that, you need to know the full, accurate picture of where the person is coming from and where he/she wants to go.

Sorry for the confusion.
 
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Wow... Who knew a little question would stir up so much...

Here's the info:

I am not over weight because I'm an over eater. I do not have that problem at all, and never had.

I put on weight with each of my 5 children. Depression about various things, mental road blocks, and lack of time while the children were tots, was the reason it stayed on. Also this fat stuck to me like there was no tomorrow, because I'm one of those unfortunate people that don't feel hungry until dinner. So I wouldn't eat until dinner (I am eating now), and I did this for many years... So that's where I was, here is where I am..

My goals. To be lean and healthy, in my 30's. I am 29, I do not shy away from hard work. Once I set my mind on something I go for it, but my mind has to be dead set to do it. I can manage a lot and I can handle a lot. I had my first two children very young, and my whole 20's I have been very over weight. I'm over it.. Honestly my life is a mess, and I'm taking control of what is within my power to change. I quit smoking in Jan, and now I'm working my ass off to get results in my body.

I am totally 100% HEALTHY, in every way, I used to be a dancer when I was younger and I have retained my total flexibility aswell. Umm like a prettier girl version of Chris Farley, agile and flexible, yet you wonder how, because of the weight...lol..

I was asking the questions in a general way because I am obviously learning, I had no idea that it had to be so personally stylized. (Personally stylized is great though)

My ultimate goal, loose all of my weight , and not only that but be toned, have even better stamina. The kind were you can just run, I used to love to just run. Or play golf in the sun for hours without cheating and using a golf cart.:coolgleamA: I want to play foot ball with my boys and be able to tackle them with out crushing them, lol, or worry about getting hurt. I do NOT want to be manly looking at all, I want to be the best me I can. I say 140 as my goal weight, because, I know muscle looks different on the body, and umm my boobs are a lot bigger now after the kids and as a women I need to take that into account a bit when invisioning what my goal "weight" should be. But you know what maybe 135, or 130 will be what I end up at? I'm not big boned, I have a small frame, I am very strong, and I'm 5ft 4.

I'm not messing around here. I am done having children. I want a healthy firm body for the rest of my life, and I have no problem working for it every day forever. I did read the sticky threads, and I read a whole lot of other stuff too. I am watching my calories to make sure I'm taking in enough,(healthy food) I have been exercising every day. I'm drinking water all day long. I am committed. I don't smoke, don't drink, I want to live until I'm 100.:conehead:

I am working out to tapes, TAEBO, Pilates, umm Richard simmons too. And I am using weights and I'm walking. I have a stationary bike, and a stair climber type thing, I just got a work out ball. I also have a resistance band thing, that well puts resistance into my work out. I'm working out. But I want to make sure I'm getting all I can from the resources I have.This board is one of those resources. I want to do this right..


Ok, so now you know what my goals are, what I want, and where I was and were I'm at...

Now that you guys know all of that, instead of poking at each other, you wana help me reach my goal?:hurray:

Thank you all really for responding, I love hearing lots of opinions, and experiences.... I'm an open book, if you need to know more info before you can give an opinion, just let me know...:D

Hope2 (get what I want!)
 
Ok, now what's the deal? Over 100 views and no one wants to spill the beans on a good combination. Please don't be scared off from this thread. I understand being careful with advice etc, but you know, no one would get advice here or help here if everyone was as careful as suggested.

Steve,

I have read a lot of your posts, and obviously you are well respected around here, and what you say makes sense, sometimes. A lot of stuff goes right over a new persons head. I didn't even know what a (what is it?) bmi ratio is, I think a lot of people start out not knowing anything except somethings got to change. Like I said I respect the info, experience etc. I have given years of advice on a different board dealing with relationship issues, I can tell you when I wanted to inform someone that they were miss informed, or perhaps should be a little more cautious with what they are saying. I didn't "speak" to them like they were a total idiot. I respect consideration and respect above knowledge. With that said, since I gave you all my stats that you said someone needs to know before giving advice, if you feel like putting your two sense in I would love to here what you had to say.

As for anyone else who reads this thread.. ALL opinions, suggestions and recommendations are welcome, I'm a big girl, despite also being a BIG girl, and I can sift through :icon_bs:.

Help me loose it,

I agree with you any new movement etc, will obviously improve health etc. I totally agree with you and I think you handled your critic with real class. I do however want optimal results, and if there is a true combination I can do to get what I want that would be great. I'm very serious about this, so I do need more then just an improvement. Thanks for the advise, I have read a lot of what you suggested, else where and I don't know why that general info was protested. It is general info but I asked in a general way. Now that I listed my personal info, do you have any new suggestions for me?:confused: I'd love to "hear" your opinon.

cucr3,

Thank you so much for responding and giving your advice. A circuit sounds really interesting. Didn't even know that existed. That suggestion might help someone else who reads this thread get to the next level but that sounds to "Rocky" for me, lol... I'm not there yet, and probably even when I do meet my goal of weight loss/fitness I will never make a set up like that. Thanks though for taking the time I respect your recommendation, I'm sure it will help someone else maximize there workout..:)

Anyway... If there is no set way of doing things. What do you all recommend? Should someone who has as much weight as I have to loose, do more cardio then anything else?

I want to incorporate all that I said in my last post. I need to know the "best" or "optimal" combination. Should the strengthening videos like Pilates, be done on my weight days, and the TAEBO be done on the exercise bike days (cardio with cardio)? Does it even flipping matter?

I don't know anymore. I thought this would defiantly be a question, or group of questions that the answers would appeal to more then just me. I mean this whole new life is a bit confusing. The ignorant are only ignorant in a subject because they haven't learned yet, not because there dumb. So although this questions might be really stupid, and I just don't get how stupid they are, it's where I'm at, and I'd like to know.

Who ever dares to respond to my questions, thank you very much, I don't care if your a "guru" , you could have gobbled up a ton of info just yesterday (like I do) and found something useful for me, or maybe you think I sound like you did when you started and want to share the work out rutien that got you results...

Others could be reading and wanting to know too, not just little ol me. Is there a method to this madness, lol.....:ack2:

Thanks

Hope2 (get some replies from some brave souls)
 
I am working out to tapes, TAEBO, Pilates, umm Richard simmons too. And I am using weights and I'm walking. I have a stationary bike, and a stair climber type thing, I just got a work out ball. I also have a resistance band thing, that well puts resistance into my work out. I'm working out. But I want to make sure I'm getting all I can from the resources I have.This board is one of those resources. I want to do this right..
Be more specific about what you're doing with each item..

and you've been asked the question once - it's gonna be asked again - have you read the stickied threads in exercise and what questions do you have based on that reading?
 
I answerd that question. I did read the sticky threads.

The questions based on what I didn't find were stated in my first post...

What am I doing with what I have? I'm following the video's, different video each day. And doing weights 2 times a week. All the basic moves that are sugested. I had a one on one with a personal trainer, once a long time ago, and the moves work out each of the arm muscles. I get on the bike when I feel like it.

All I want to know is, does it matter what you do when? That's it.. If it does please explain to me what's the best way.

I don't get it, aren't questions a good thing?:confused:
 
Hope2

One thing that I have learned during my time on this forum (which, admittedly, compared to a lot here is short) is that you can get some really great tailored advice from people who really know what they are talking about. A lot of people will just throw a question out there without any specifics and those questions are difficult to answer without knowing more about the poster. Generic advice without knowing what you want to accomplish could at best result in an inefficient program and at worst, end up hurting your of creating a set back. I am not an expert and have lost a decent amount of weight prior to joining the forum but I have gotten some really good advice about the workout I was doing and ways to work on it since I have joined.

You will recognize that there are some amazing resources here who are willing to help you and there are others who don't have the first clue. Use those resources, people pay a lot of money for that sort of advice.

That being said, my starting weight was 264, same height as you and approximately the same goal weight (and very similar goals as well). When I started out I was only doing cardio every other day. I progressed to doing the elliptical and then, last fall, added strength training. My body (not my weight necessarily) started changing rapidly after that. Now what I had been doing prior to coming here was that the majority of my workout was on machines. That is acceptable, but not necessarily the most producitve way to work out as you use more muslces (I am sure I will be corrected if I am explaining it incorrectly, which is fine :) I understand the concept but do not have enough specialized knowledge to convey it properly) using free weights. after reading that, I modified my workout.

The thing with weights is that you have to increase the load constantly to keep progress moving in a forward direction, otherwise your body adapts.

Different things work for different people, for me, it is a combination of cardio and weight training but as I lose weight, I have had to modify the weight portion of my workout. I tried running as a new form of cardio (I do the elliptical) but to be honest, I did not notice a change in the effectiveness of my workout doing that. There may have been one, but I didn't recognize it.

Keep in mind that I am a lay person, and am only telling you what has worked for me. Keep reading around and don't be afraid to ask questions based on what you read, there are plenty of people here, expert and lay, willing to offer their advice, take advantage of that.

You are going to do great, just remember you are doing more today than you were doing a month ago. It is a learing process.

We're glad to have you :)
 
ali.smedley,

Thank you for your post. Congrats on your progress! I have learned a lot from reading others threads, including steves. And I do apreciate that knowledge gained. I just had a simple question, and the negitive vibe on this thread really sucks, I don't like it, and it does not help when trying to stay positive in mindset threw all this. It's a board, people might give good advice or poor advice, and I get what you are saying. Helping because you want to help is great. But helping to feed one's ego? There are people on here that are really full of themselves, and I'm not into hero worship. If others can be corrected for giveing vage or poor advice (with good intentions) then someone else can "correct" someones manors.:ack2:

Thank you for sharing your experiance, it looks like, pritty much figure out what works for you and go with it. So that's great, thanks for answering my question. Just thought I'd ask if there was a spasific method for sucsess.. Guess there is not. I'm not starting a thread again about any question, this vibe is so not what I need. People shouldn't have to walk on egg shells.

Thank you for your help though, I do apreiciate it..:D

I'm here to learn, and keep motivated, have this place be a positive part of my life. I don't need negativity, who does?

(can't spell and didn't feel like spell checking, sorry )

Hope2
 
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If I didn't know better, I'd say you were taking shots at me.

First let me respond directly to some things that stood out to me:

I have read a lot of your posts, and obviously you are well respected around here, and what you say makes sense, sometimes.

What you *really* seem to be missing is that this isn't about respect. I couldn't care less if you or anyone else here doesn't respect me. I'm about the integrity of information and the application of direct/individualized advice. That's all. If maintaining said integrity and application I lose respect from a few.... no skin off my back.

A wise person I know often says, "Those who matter don't mind and those who mind don't matter."

I try and keep that in mind as much as possible.

I can tell you when I wanted to inform someone that they were miss informed, or perhaps should be a little more cautious with what they are saying. I didn't "speak" to them like they were a total idiot. I respect consideration and respect above knowledge.

How does this reflect at all on me? I am not you and you are not me. I've been very successful reaching people on this front in my life and I'm not about to change the way I handle myself simply b/c you 'operate' under a different set of values.

As do each of us.

That's an important concept you seem to be missing. The moment you start filtering everyone through your own set of values is the moment you set yourself up for frustration and disappointment.

We all have our own values, and that's not going to change. So something else has to give if you're going to enjoy your stay here. It's up to you to figure it out.

and the negitive vibe on this thread really sucks, I don't like it, and it does not help when trying to stay positive in mindset threw all this.

I don't understand what you want. All along this thread people have been handing you advice. Yet, you keep crying that you aren't getting any. I critiqued some of said advice. Big deal!? It deserved critiquing and I'd do it again. It's what helps keep this a great forum. Great not b/c people get shitty information in pretty little packages. But great b/c the integrity from above is maintained.

It's also great b/c the people who can't mustard up the logic and accept that this is how things are run around here don't stick around long. So what's left is a good crowd.

But helping to feed one's ego? There are people on here that are really full of themselves, and I'm not into hero worship.

This is absurd and pathetic.

You have a handful of posts here, darling. I promise you don't know enough about anyone here to make this sort of assessment. I'm sure you had me in mind when doing so. If I'm right, you couldn't be further from the truth. I don't think you understand how little I care what you or anyone else thinks of me. Especially on the Internet.

If I'm wrong, my apologies.

If others can be corrected for giveing vage or poor advice (with good intentions) then someone else can "correct" someones manors.

With this one, why don't we start with you showing me, besides in this post, where people used poor manners?

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With the bad stuff out of the way and the obviousness that you demand coddling, let's move on to some advice:

1. Most of your weight loss at this point in time is going to be a function of your 'nutritional atmosphere.' Items of primary importance are things like calorie balance, diet composition, etc. You seem to be harping on about exercise an awful lot and while exercise is important, it takes a backseat to the nutrition side of things at this stage in the game. So I'd prioritize your focus a bit.

With that said:

a) How long have you been dieting?
b) How much weight have you lost?
c) Are you tracking your nutrition?
d) If so, how?
e) How/what do you eat? Is it the same thing most days of the week?

2. On the exercise front, you basically want to do stuff at this stage in the game to aid the caloric deficit you're trying to create. Losing muscle isn't that great of a concern so sticking to more 'metabolic work' opposed to strength work would be key. Metabolic work would be things like cardio, exercise tapes, and circuit training with weights. What you do and when you do it really isn't all that critical at this point in time. I got the impression that you were looking for a 'magical' combination of exercise guidelines to work the best. There are no such things. And keep in mind that you can't out exercise a bad diet.

If I were you I'd focus on cardio pretty much every day if you feel the need. If not, you can cut it back to 4-6 times per week. Cardio simply acts as a buffer to your diet. By doing it, it allows you to eat a little more food and not make the caloric restriction as awful. Once you start building up your work capacity, I'd really consider not doing it every single day as it can become counterproductive, or at the very least altering your intensities.

On top of this, I'd focus on doing some sort of full body weight lifting routine 2-3 days per week. These can be circuit-esque if you'd like but definitely focusing on the big compound lifts. All this means is don't sit there blasting your arms. Instead, choose exercises that call on the big muscles and multiple joints. Things like squats, deadlifts, chest pressing, rowing, overhead pressing, etc would all fit this criteria.

Look forward to hearing from you.
 
Steve,

I had a big rebuttle all typed out and you know what I'm not continueing this. For get it. If I'm a baby that needs codling fine, what ever. Oh god and all of the other insinuations.. What ever. I thought you were rude, and your response back unforchunatly were rude. Fine. Who cares.

I respect the information you give, and I'm glad for you that you've been able to help a lot of people here and glad for them. That is great. And I'm sure the advise you gave me at the end of your post will help me. And I know the things I've read on your other posts have helped me. Thank you for codling me and giveing me the advise. I want to get my body back, and I'm sure your advise will help me do that. That's a true profeshional. :D

Just thought you sounded egotistical with delivery, and were rude. It brought about a negitive vibe. I did state I respected your information. You insulted me, in so many ways. I don't even care. And I know you don't care. But I don't think your a bad guy, I think your probably really sensitive. Everyone wants to be "heard" or "seen". Everyone offends someone sometimes. So what, you apologise and move on. I'm sorry if the ego comment upset you, that's what I was seeing.

I'm not interested in anything "magical" just asked a question.. Thought it was not that big of a deal, I was just interested in finding out if there is an "optimal" way, or if it was a free for all. Looks like there are some rules, but pritty much what I'm doing is fine. It was a really lam person question, I'm new. I was being silly which I think was obviouse when I commented that no one was posting to my general question. I think they weren't posting because they probably didn't want to get critisized. Who knows though, maybe they thought. Oh God she's a baby I don't want to post on her thread, lol.. Who knows...

Listen I don't think you really want me to post the answers to your new questions. It's obviouse you have a poor opion of me.

Thank you for the info you did give and I sincerialy hope you have a great day.
 
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Unreal.

Answer the questions or stop crying.

I wouldn't have asked if I didn't want answers.
 
Steve,

You know what this isn't just about exchangeing information. This is about people, and there real lives. If I'm unreal then so be it.
 
This is the Internet. I was not saying you're imaginary. I was saying your reaction to what has been presented to you is unreal, as in astonishing.

Suit yourself.
 
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