Hello world...I'm Suzy and I want to be 160!

Hi everybody!
This is my first day/night here. I feel like a dork doing this, but it seems to be what I need right now. :eek:

I am 60 pounds overweight and way out of shape. I don't need another food plan, and I don't need to spend money figuring out how to lose weight. I'm pretty sure I know what works for me, because I've accomplished this before.

Where I keep missing the mark is in being consistent, and getting support from other people who are doing the same thing as me. Day in and day out. So I hope we will support each other!! :beerchug:

Day 1: 220
What did I do: Started a food journal to write down each thing I ate and when


Peace out! :hat:

Suzy
 
:waving:Hi there! And welcome to your (undorky) journal! I hope that you receive the encouragement you are looking for, and that you will also take advantage of some of the excellent advice offered on this forum. In particular I have benefited from Steve, Wishes, and Omega.

Don't be overwhelmed with the number of pounds you want/need to lose - just approach it like eating an elephant: one bite at a time. It's great that you have lost before, so you know that you can do it. The trick is to see not just what you are eating - but what's eating you. Why did you lose focus before, etc.

I wish you every success on your journey to better health! YOU CAN DO IT!:hurray:

ABBA
 
Hey! Welcome! Don't worry, we're all dorks here! I'm glad you started this journey of weight watch and can't wait to read more!

Congratulations on day one!
 
Hey I'm new here too...I think starting a diary is a great idea, helps to add that accountability...good luck on your journey!
 
Hey Suzy,

I'm new here too....but I'm active on the sister forum so this is all sorta familiar to me. I'd like to offer you some thoughts & advice, at least stuff that has worked for me.

I'm 43 and in the course of my overweight years, I feel confident stating that I've been exposed to a fair amount of diets, fads, concepts and methods of losing weight. Heck, we all have. The thing is, I've yet to meet a fat person who said "OMG, you mean this piece of pizza has more calories then this stalk of celery?".....

The thing is, we live in 2008 (soon to be 2009) but our bodies are derived from thousands of years of evolution, for survival purposes we couldn't have known a day would come where we had food widely available to us 24/7 AND a lifestyle that negated our need to hunt & gather (expend energy) to get it. Unless you're considering a trip to the 7-11 for a bag of Doritos exercise ;)

So you're like many of us; you can't shovel heap-loads of food down your throat and get away with it....and I'll let you in on a little secret, as we age we generally lose lean muscle-mass and our caloric needs decline. yet we continue to honor & endulge each meal as yet another opportunity to dazzle our taste buds. In other words, it only get tougher and I've seen lots of skinny people from High School turn fatty, only a very small handful of people escape The Widening.

So here's the thing...we can talk about diet plans, food, calories, exercise, cardio, weight-training and all that good stuff...but I firmly believe that in order to succeed, it really starts on a mental page. Much like an alcoholic has to "hit their bottom" I too believe us "thin-challenged" folks need to reconsile with ourselves in a similar manner. I work from absolutes and in my opinion there is no reason to exert effort & energy into doing something and then go and ruin it. This can't be "yet another diet effort"....it has to be more of a lifestyle change, something permanent.

And since I'm going novel-length, let me address that. It's not just a "lifestyle change"...everyone likes to say that because it became popular some many years ago. I don't buy it. See, here's the bad news:

You're about to endure an extended period of calorie deficit to accomplish your goals. This isn't like taking a course of antibiotics for 2 weeks and then back to normal. No. You need to eat LESS then your body needs and force your body to resort to it's fat storage: only through calorie deficit will you lose fat. If you burn 700 calories on the treadmill and then eat-back 800 calories cause you feel righteous....you basically go nowhere. "You shouldn't feel hungry on a diet"....yeah, uhhh....BULLSHIT. Your body is used to eating big-calories and after the first couple weeks of gung-ho enthusiasm start to fade against the backset of tasty foods, you'll be hammered by a body that perceives itself as starving. Accordingly, I suggest it's two-fold: a "diet lifestyle" for the weight-loss period (probably about a year) and then a "maintenance lifestyle".....BUT not to rock the boat too much, yes: it's an overall health & fitness lifestyle. I just want you to understand and commit yourself to the whole process....but understand it's not a life-sentence, there is a light at the end of the tunnel and you won't always have to skip on having a desert or cutting-loose on occassion. I like to focus on the objective and hit it hard.

So the point is, you really need to ask yourself if this is the time in your life where you're ready to go all the way. There's no point to doing this for 3 months and then quitting; you may as well just not bother. For me, it took the doctors telling me I needed to go on blood-pressure and cholesterol meds for the rest of my life. I figured it was that or hopefully surviving a heart-attack and then getting serious. I think, for most of us, it takes an event or dramatic set of circumtances to make the change. I'd suggest thinking of this as swimming across a lake...once you're out there, there's no quitting...and dare I say, if you're not willing to make that committment then you may not be ready to pull this off. Others have done it, thousands have done it: you can do this too! You can be the one with the success story!

Now for the good news!

WHEN you succeed, you will absolutely agree that it was one of the best decisions you've ever made in your life...you're only regret is that you didn't do it sooner.

Also, it will get easier and easier as time goes by. Your addiction to sugar and a food-gratifying lifestyle will become collectively easier to push away from. You'll start seeing results and getting positive feedback. Smaller sized clothing, new wardrobe and all the other fun that comes with the pride of fitness. Most importantly, your bloodwork will dramatically improve, you should be healthier and your life expentancy will lengthen.

Visualize what you want to achieve and obsess with your game plan. It's your right, it's your destiny and you can do it and you will love yourself for the results for all the right (and some of the wrong ;)) reasons. But I do believe it all starts with a mental and emotional mindset.

The longest journey begins with one small step.....
 
Oh yeah....

Eat healthy & whole foods, strive for a 20-25% calorie deficit, weight-train to help sustain lean muscle and increase metabolism (if you believe that stuff:)) and definitely hit the cardio as often and as long as you want. No pills, no miracle products....just a multi-vitamin and perhaps some fish-oil. Get one day of rest periodically and strive for a good night of sleep.

"Keep going unless you faint, puke or fuckin DIE" -Jillian Michaels

"Oh crap, BSL found the weight-loss forum" - Chillen

"I have lunch with that guy, he's one of my clients" -Alan Aragon

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Hey I just want to welcome you to the forum. I used to come on here regularly and this is my first day back (again), lol.

As you can see I started at the same weight as you and lost 41 pounds. The bad thing is I had lost 60 but stopped my weight loss process and gained back 19. Now, I have a wedding coming up in Sept and regret that I ever quit.

If there's one thing that I can say that would have helped me along the way is that yes, people aren't perfect and they do give into temptations and they do skip a workout but that's ok as long as you get right back on track. Even Jillian on the biggest loser says the same thing, that it happens but don't give up. My problem was that I would eat something crappy and not work out and because I did that I felt like I ruined everything and would stop completely which obviously is the wrong thing to do! lol

Basically eating healthy and exercise is what needs to be done and if you give in to temptation or slack one day, don't beat yourself up over it, just make sure the next day you eat great and workout! That doesn't mean you should eat something crappy on purpose, it just means that yes, no one is perfect and you just have to move on from that one moment so that you don't give up and do what I did and have to start over again ;)

Anything is possible and you can reach whatever goal you want! Good luck and I hope to hear from ya!
 
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Day 2

Wow...You guys are awesome!!! I feel fortunate and frankly rather humbled to have come across this site. Thank you one and all. :party:

The first thing I did when I woke up today was stumble around, put on workout clothes and go to the gym. Yes, that's right (sigh)...We have a perfectly good gym on-site where I live. To me that makes the current situation more embarrassing. :confused:

I don't get it! Every article I've ever read about weight loss and good health stresses the importance of physical activity. Even when you look at world leaders (including the Obama family and George Bush) they work out every day it seems. Yet that is the first thing to go with me. Logically I know what I need to do...

Day 2: 219
What did I do: Worked out on the treadmill 10 min + cool down; stretching


Oh, and I threw out a couple of chocolate bars that were "hanging around". No sense making this more difficult than it needs to be

Have a great day everybody and thanks again!

Suzy :waving:
 
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While I think BSL had a very inspirational post... I am going to disagree with the wishy-washy-ness of the "lifestyle" change point. Everything else was fairly straight on and to the point.

This is a lifestyle change... and it might be cliche and/or antiquated, but that doesn't make it any less true. BSL, think about this... before, were you into "fitness" or "eating" healthy? I bet now, when you look back, you say things like "Man, I never would have eaten this many veggies for dinner"... or something of similar nature in regards to a healthier meal selection. If you dedicate time to fitness (I can see you are an avid bike rider) where you hadn't before, it was indeed a lifestyle change. I know it sounds corny and/or dramatic for some, but it is what it is, and to tell someone that its not a "lifestyle change" but then to say "it's an overall health and fitness lifestyle change"... I guess I just don't see the difference.

I don't know if I have a valid point to your thread... BSL def knows his shit, I think he just got caught up in semantics. All I know is, if you told me 3 years ago I'd be in the gym 2+ hours a day, I'd told you were a crackhead... ;) If that ain't a lifestyle change, I don't know what is. However, even on a maintenance diet plan, that is obviously a change from someone's previous habits (lifestyle, again semantics heh).

So, yes... SuzyQ91, please expect to be a new you because that's what you need at this point.
 
I think you did awesome for your second day! I got up and went straight to the computer! lol Throwing out tempting foods is also a really great start! One of the tools was using when I was really into my weight loss was:



You can make a free account and it's a very easy way to keep track of your calories. You can even keep track of your activities so you can compare what you've eaten vs what you've burned. It's a really kewl site. I know I was better at putting things on that site than writing it down. So I always suggest it just in case ;)

But you really did awesome today :D Congrats :D
 
While I think BSL had a very inspirational post... I am going to disagree with the wishy-washy-ness of the "lifestyle" change point.

I don't know if I have a valid point to your thread... BSL def knows his shit, I think he just got caught up in semantics. All I know is, if you told me 3 years ago I'd be in the gym 2+ hours a day, I'd told you were a crackhead... ;)

I'd have to agree with you on that call. There was nothing to watch on tv and I just decided to type my heart out, but in re-reading, my thoughts on the "lifestyle change" are a bit convoluted and not expressed very well. FWIW, these are the kinds of things I think about when I go on my long bike rides...I take simple thoughts and dissect it, combine that with OCD & endorphins and it's quite a fun ride! :D

It absolutely is a lifestyle change
, but I see it as a 2-stage ordeal. I somewhat subscribe to "set-point theory", that the body strives to maintain a certain weight, like a thermostat. To change that setting we have to diet, exercise and work DAMN HARD to make that change happen and it can be challenging....so challenging that people often quit. To make it easier I prefer to see the process in two steps, the first being the tough part (losing the weight) and the second being maintanence.

So yes, it's an overall lifestyle change, but the reason I prefer to segment the stages is because. I like to think of the first step as a mission or project and something you won't have to do forever...you're just using that modality as a means of achieving change. Like someone said to me, right now I'm doing excessive amounts of cardio (17 hours per week) and dieting hard (30-35% deficit)...BUT once I get "there" I'll ease-up. So this is not a permanent situation (or my new lifestyle), I'm just doing this phase to make the change. So I'm saying "it's gonna hurt, it's not going to be fun, it's deprivation and hard work....but it's not your new lifestyle, it's just a phase that you have to go through to get to your new lifestyle. It's an obstacle. So that's why I dissect the lifestyle concept....because it's easier to figure it's a phase and something you just have to get through.

My experience is that the body is a very fine-tuned machine and it knows darn well that you haven't eaten enough calories to cover the spread. When I'm dieting, I feel hunger....it's just that simple, but to make the change I'll simply endure it and figure it's the work I need to do to get where I want to go. I won't have to be hungry forever to maintain my lose, just now to achieve the loss.

From the reading I've done (and it's been a while since I've run through this)....it's been medically explained that the fat cells in the abdominal area become swollen and insulin has a difficult time binding to these cells and storing the glucose. This condition known as insulin resistance, one of the stages that comes before diabetes. The bodies response is to then produce more insulin and this leads to a crashing sugar-level...and so the hunger process starts again. Indeed, I can recall as a heavy person eating a huge meal and just 2-3 hours later feeling real & true hunger again! I realize it's over-simplifying the matter, but it almost seems like fat people are fat because they're fat (the fat perpetuates the condition) and thin people are thin because they're thin. It all sorta comes backto set-point theory in that the body somehow tends to maintain itself. So once a person can lose that nasty fat and get to a healthy weight, they're more inclined to maintain it.

Sorry, I've more then over-dwelled on this idea. All I can say is that some people cut back on bread and take a walk here and there...and they lose weight fast & easy. For me, it's a huge battle and only through extremes can I make progress...and so I tend to project my issues onto the common dieter.




WowI don't get it! Every article I've ever read about weight loss and good health stresses the importance of physical activity. Even when you look at world leaders (including the Obama family and George Bush) they work out every day it seems. Yet that is the first thing to go with me. Logically I know what I need to do...

Exercise IS important, the benefits are vast and include cardiovascular, respiratory and many other things....and you will burn fat. But just know, an HOUR of cardio may burn about 1-1.5 ounces of fat, whereas reducing caloric intake 500 calories will burn 2 ounces of fat. Diet is everything and millons of people have lost weight with diet alone. That's absolutely not to suggest incorporating exercise isn't a paramount factor...it is part of the lifestyle changes that you'll want to make.

10 minutes is a great start...but you'll really want to get it up to at least 30 minutes, shoot for 45 and try, eventually, for an hour. Go slower if you have to, but 10 minutes is just barely warming-up. It may seem difficult, but you're body will adapt and answer-up to the challenge!

Good luck! :)
 
Day 3 - Sugar withdrawal!

How did I get like this?!! Again!! Aargh... :smash:

Last night driving home I found myself wanting to stop and buy something to satisfy a "sweet tooth". Definitely wasn't hungry as I'd just had dinner with friends. So I convinced myself I had something at home and didn't stop, then when I got home convinced myself to wait a little, then eventually went to bed without indulging.

I can't believe I'm back into this!!!!!! I feel like a pathetic little junkie "drying out". Especially when I did this once before and had it straightened out. By that I mean, no cravings whatsoever.

Let's see now can I do this again...

1) When I eat a piece of chocolate (or whatever) I'm making more work for myself because chocolate has no nutritional value. I'm just putting calories into my body and creating more work for myself to take them out/off later. So, this is truly a useless activity. I'm basically a lazy person, so why would I want this??

2) When I eat a piece of chocolate, I have to spend money to buy it. That means I cannot use the money for something else I'd really like. So, it wastes money as well as my time. Also a strong argument!

Day 3: 219
What did I do: Went to the gym again and kept up with the journal


I don't know why I need to post to remember this stuff, but so be it. Thanks again for the support everybody. :troll:

Suzy
 
Suzy, I'm in agreement with all of the above posts regarding exercise, lifestyle changes, tracking calories, etc.

But I'm going to to go back to your origianl post and bring back up the support part too. Sometimes you just need friends who are going through the same shit you are too. That is what I've found in this forum as well as a place to vent about daily garbage or whatever is going on that might be stressing you out etc.

You got a place to hang your hat.

BTW, just something else to toss in regarding cardio time (bicycles, treadmill, etc.). I agree that 10 minutes is not giving your body enough time to truly burn a lot off... but, if you can do 10 minutes say 2-3 times a day, breaking it up, that will be an improvement... Not everyone is capable of doing longer stretches right off the bat. Hell When I started my journey, between weighing close to 400 lbs and smoking, I could barely climb a flight of stairs...

I now regularly cycle in excess of 25 miles at a stretch, and when doing stationary (read that winter), cardio can do stretches of well over an hour. Trust me you can do this!
 
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How did I get like this?!! Again!! Aargh... :smash:

Last night driving home I found myself wanting to stop and buy something to satisfy a "sweet tooth". Definitely wasn't hungry as I'd just had dinner with friends. So I convinced myself I had something at home and didn't stop, then when I got home convinced myself to wait a little, then eventually went to bed without indulging.

I can't believe I'm back into this!!!!!! I feel like a pathetic little junkie "drying out". Especially when I did this once before and had it straightened out. By that I mean, no cravings whatsoever.

Let's see now can I do this again...

1) When I eat a piece of chocolate (or whatever) I'm making more work for myself because chocolate has no nutritional value. I'm just putting calories into my body and creating more work for myself to take them out/off later. So, this is truly a useless activity. I'm basically a lazy person, so why would I want this??

2) When I eat a piece of chocolate, I have to spend money to buy it. That means I cannot use the money for something else I'd really like. So, it wastes money as well as my time. Also a strong argument!

Day 3: 219
What did I do: Went to the gym again and kept up with the journal


I don't know why I need to post to remember this stuff, but so be it. Thanks again for the support everybody. :troll:

Suzy

Suzy,



Buy a bag of minitures... it doesn't make sense to torture yourself over something that is easily accountable for. At your current weight, in order for you to lose weight, you can eat around 2600 calories (given that you give a solid hour of exercise 4-5 times a week). So if you eat 3 pieces of candy when you have this awful craving, you are only looking at 120 calories. Roughly 5% of your daily intake... not a bad trade off to make it through this.
 
It absolutely is a lifestyle change[/B], but I see it as a 2-stage ordeal. I somewhat subscribe to "set-point theory", that the body strives to maintain a certain weight, like a thermostat. To change that setting we have to diet, exercise and work DAMN HARD to make that change happen and it can be challenging....so challenging that people often quit. To make it easier I prefer to see the process in two steps, the first being the tough part (losing the weight) and the second being maintanence.

Absolutely agree with set point theory. Hence one of the reasons it's a bitch for most people to get sub 11% BF (for women, sub 18%). The body simply doesn't want to... now, I found that it was a cake walk to go from 40%+ bf to 12% than it is to go from 12% to single digits. It's a downright nightmare actually. This is where the Set point theory is coming into play... some people are happy the first step in the process you mentioned above and then move on to maintenance levels after wards. I find that I am in the minority and want to get to single digits.
 
Hey Suzy, well done on resisting that treat, and throwing out that chocolate...I don't know if you are anything like me, but once I allow myself one treat, I just can't stop....I feel a little like a junkie at the moment, resisting is hard, but will be worth it in the end...and then maybe one day we will be able to have those treats occasionally without worrying about gaining the weight again because we have a healthy lifestyle!

Keep up the great work!:hurray:
 
Absolutely agree with set point theory. Hence one of the reasons it's a bitch for most people to get sub 11% BF (for women, sub 18%). The body simply doesn't want to... now, I found that it was a cake walk to go from 40%+ bf to 12% than it is to go from 12% to single digits. It's a downright nightmare actually. This is where the Set point theory is coming into play... some people are happy the first step in the process you mentioned above and then move on to maintenance levels after wards. I find that I am in the minority and want to get to single digits.

Darth-P......

Dude....take a look next to you; we're sitting in the same boat! :D

It's kinda funny because it defies conventional theory. We're taught that it's calories in vs. calories out and so at the end of the week if we run a 3,500 calorie deficit we'll have lost a pound. We're also told that the body can slow the metabolism and run on lower-intake, BUT the reduction in metabolism can't cover the spread of the overall reduction/deficit in calories....so we should still have a net loss.....yet it just doesn't quite work that way.

Why can two nearly identical people (in age, gender, size, shape, genetic background, energy expenditure, etc) both consume 4,500 calories per day...and one gains weight/fat while the other just doesn't??

I'm told that every calorie counts, so if you eat an extra 100 calories per day, you WILL gain roughly a pound per month. Yet this is what I'm experiencing, I call it "Band-Width Theory"

To lose weight I need to eat less then 1,800 calories and then thinning will happen....but you gotta be hungry and run lean!!!

To gain weight, I need to eat more then 4,500 calories to get fatter. My waist & chin won't expand unless I eat more then this.

BUT....If I eat between 1,800 to 4,500 calories per day NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. In this "band" my body just seems to maintain itself at the set-point.

Does it make sense? By set-point theory, YES....but by "calories in vs. calories out"...not really. I think there's a lot of over-driven hype about metabolism and he we can change it and alter it. The notion that eating spicy food can super-charge our metabolism and increase it upto 40%?? NONSENSE! Caffiene speeds-up the metabolism?...probably a bit, but I'm guessing 85% of the effect is more appetite suppressant.

I'm not really sure...all I know is that I comparatively have to work my ass off something awful to make slight headway while others seem to have a relatively easier time.

I guess, in the end, we pick-apart and question the science in some kind of vague hope that we'll suddenly find the magic formula and discover the more productive route to getting where we're trying to go. I further suppose, in the end, we should just reconsile ourselves to doing the best we can and making the most of what we have...but I still like to b!tch and rage against the machine.

Btw....you know that concept about one day a week eat anything you want??? Yeah; don't even think about it....cause that's the one day your body will likely decide to reset it's set-point and Murphy's Law says we'll take one in the metabolic balls but good!

"Starve today, for tomorrow we weigh!" -BSL

Oh...and the chaos; it's been brought!!! :D
 
GOOd job on not giving in to your cravings! I know what you mean about the chocolate for example. Like you said there's no nutritional value and all you're doing is eating extra cals that you don't want to have! I had two pieces of chocolate at work yesterday! AH! The problem is it's just there sitting on the table. Just like the snack cupboard that has tons of cookies and crackers and hot chocolate. My work supplies the stuff, so everytime I have a break I'm bombarded with all that good stuff. So I'll try and keep your words in my head because even though I know that stuff, I never really thought about it all that hard, I would just eat it and regret it later. So thank you! hehe
 
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