Fasting should be out!

I don't feel like arguing but depending on HOW you fast makes a difference and not all fasts are bad.

I fast only for a 24 hour periods and when I am trying to get lean I do this once a week. There is scientific research that this helps weight loss. Fasting for 24 hours helps insulin levels and increase GH levels.

Again if you Google it there is plenty of research out there.

Just my 2 cents though.
 
From various articles I've read, (if you disregard the idea of fasting for weight loss), it supposedly can prolong your lifespan. I have a friend who has gone from 180lbs to about 120lbs, and she fasts every other day, for health reasons; not as a method to lose weight. Here is a study regarding intermittent fasting:
 
I think that you can fast, just don't use it as a way of losing weight. It is not practical as you tend to eat twice as much after you get off so you would be gaining the weight and more.
 
Fasting for fat loss is for the uneducated people. The body obviously is way smarter than them because though they have lose weight(it is muscle mass btw, not fat) their body suffers from intense hunger and craving. I am not ashamed to say I was once a part of the uneducated freaks, I crash diet and suffer the consequences at dinner where I actually ate 5 times which in return didn't help me with my fat loss goal...
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Well, as a muslim, I do fast during the fasting month except when Im unwell or pregnant.

However, as a form of diet, I dont really like it, as you tend to eat more when it reaches nightime, binging is unavoidable by then.

For during the fasting month, we are required to wake up at dusk to eat and eat at dawn, we fast only from dawn to dusk.
 
Fasting is a religious practice and should not be used for losing weight for a slew of reasons, both religious and medical.

Most points have been addressed already in this thread but I have to point something else out.
Fasting to lose weight is a bit insulting towards religion don't you think?
Jesus did not fast because he was 400+ pounds for sure!
 
Sorry i am not agree with your post that the food skipping is helpful in weight lose.I know many pupils believe that the skipping food, Dieting and fasting help to reduce weight but i think its wrong. Skipping food cannot lose only weight,it can be help in lose energy also.
So, I suggest to eat food but Light and healthy which gives you Energy as well as help to lose weight..
 
I was so desperate to lose weight that I started fasting, I would spend almost a week of only water and some horrible headaches!

Now I still skip some meals but because I ran out of time :p Now Im counting calories and hopefully that and some excersice will help me lose this stupid weight :)
 
Lose weight fast

in my opinion, lose weight fast is very important , especially for the motivation if you wanna lose weight you have to be very motived :p or will be boring sooner or latter and you won't get progress. I'm seeking for lose weight fast, what would be the best way? suplement maybe? i ve been reading about a great product 100% natural and without side efects, named Ultraslim Formula, somebody know something about that? in his web page [removed] it says you will lose 1.2 - 1.5 kg and 2-3 cm of volume each week. it'd be great ^^. if anyone know something about this product , please share it with us i'm thinking about test it.

Regards
 
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in my opinion, lose weight fast is very important , especially for the motivation if you wanna lose weight you have to be very motived :p or will be boring sooner or latter and you won't get progress. I'm seeking for lose weight fast, what would be the best way? suplement maybe? i ve been reading about a great product 100% natural and without side efects, named Ultraslim Formula, somebody know something about that? in his web page [removed] it says you will lose 1.2 - 1.5 kg and 2-3 cm of volume each week. it'd be great ^^. if anyone know something about this product , please share it with us i'm thinking about test it.

Regards

Fast weight loss can be rather unhealthy, and looking for a quick fix will only bring you disappointment in the end. The faster you lose weight, the bigger the chance of putting the weight straight back on, and probably some on top.

Supplements in general won't help. They are mostly scams which are in the best case just expensive, in the worst case dangerous.

If you are looking for a weight loss quick fix, I am afraid this forum will not be of much use to you. We generally advocate healthy weight loss, good food and exercise. Not pills.
 
Fast weight loss can be rather unhealthy, and looking for a quick fix will only bring you disappointment in the end. The faster you lose weight, the bigger the chance of putting the weight straight back on, and probably some on top.

Supplements in general won't help. They are mostly scams which are in the best case just expensive, in the worst case dangerous.

If you are looking for a weight loss quick fix, I am afraid this forum will not be of much use to you. We generally advocate healthy weight loss, good food and exercise. Not pills.

Once again supplements are not scams (some are however...in the thermogenics department), they AID in many different areas of body growth, recovery, etc...

With fasting...I recommend every take a look at lean gains, he has MUCH supported evidence (case studies) on the effects of a 16 hr fast (1pm-8pm eating window) and how it actually increases metabolism...and if done right, no muscle loss. It has also been dis proven in regards to meal frequency. If you eat often, awesome, if you do not, don't sweat it (another thing the majority of people can do research on).
 
Once again supplements are not scams (some are however...in the thermogenics department), they AID in many different areas of body growth, recovery, etc...

The truth is that you don't really know that.




How do you know if herbal supplements' claims are true?


Manufacturers don't have to seek FDA approval before putting dietary supplements on the market. In addition, companies can claim that products address a nutrient deficiency, support health or are linked to body functions, if they have supporting research, and they include a disclaimer that the FDA hasn't evaluated the claim.

Manufacturers of herbal supplements are responsible for ensuring that the claims they make about their products aren't false or misleading and that they're backed up by adequate evidence. However, supplement makers aren't required to submit this evidence to the FDA. So be a smart consumer and do a little homework. Don't just rely on a product's marketing. Look for objective, research-based information to evaluate a product's claims. To get reliable information about a particular supplement:

1.) Ask your doctor or pharmacist. Even if they don't know about a specific supplement, they may be able to point you to the latest medical guidance about its uses and risks.

2.) Look for scientific research findings. Two good sources include the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM) and the Office of Dietary Supplements. Both have Web sites that provide information to help consumers make informed choices about dietary supplements.

3.) Contact the manufacturer. If you have questions about a specific product, call the manufacturer or distributor. Ask to talk with someone who can answer questions such as what data the company has to substantiate its products' claims

Echinacea to prevent colds. Ginkgo to improve memory. Flaxseed to lower cholesterol.

The list of herbal remedies goes on and on. Herbal remedies, sometimes called botanicals, aren't new; plants have been used for medicinal purposes for thousands of years. However, herbal supplements haven't been subjected to the same scientific scrutiny and aren't as strictly regulated as medications. For example, herbal supplement manufacturers don't have to get approval from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) before putting their products on the market.

Yet some herbal supplements — including products labeled as "natural" — have drug-like effects that can be dangerous. So it's important to do your homework and investigate potential benefits and side effects of herbal supplements before you buy. And be sure to talk with your doctor, especially if you take medications, have chronic health problems, or are pregnant or breast-feeding.
Are herbal supplements safe?

Herbal supplements are regulated by the FDA, but not as drugs or as foods. They fall under a category called dietary supplements. The rules for dietary supplements are as follows:


Manufacturers must follow good manufacturing practices (GMPs) to ensure that supplements are processed consistently and meet quality standards. GMPs are intended to keep the wrong ingredients and contaminants, such as pesticides and lead, out of supplements, as well as make sure that the right ingredients are included in appropriate amounts.
Once a dietary supplement is on the market, the FDA is responsible for monitoring its safety. If the FDA finds a product to be unsafe, it can take action against the manufacturer or distributor or both, and may issue a warning or require that the product be removed from the market.

These regulations provide consumers with the assurance that herbal supplements meet certain quality standards and that the FDA can intervene to remove dangerous products from the market. The rules do not, however, guarantee that herbal supplements are safe for anyone to use. Because many supplements contain active ingredients that have strong effects in the body, these products can pose unexpected risks. For example, taking a combination of herbal supplements or using supplements together with prescribed medications could lead to harmful, even life-threatening results. For this reason, it's important to talk with your doctor before using herbal supplements.

~Mayo Clinic

______________________________________________________________
Scam

(Dictionary.com)
? noun, verb, scammed, scam•ming.
1. a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.
–verb (used with object)
2. to cheat or defraud with a scam.

(Eecl.org)
1. A ploy by a shyster to raise money.
2., A fraudulent business scheme. To scam means to victimize: deprive of by deceit
3. A confidence trick

(Webster)
1 : to deceive and take money from (someone)
2 : to get (something, such as money) by deceiving someone

(My own definition)
To cleverly and consciously contrive the means to obtain material possessions (money) or guarded knowledge (classified information). This is a parasitic relationship in which the victim of the scheme suffers a loss and a benefit is gained by the conspirator.

If a company is selling a supplement and is lying about the ingredients or it's benefits (without proof how will you know?) then it's a scam. If not...then it isn't. Purchase carefully.
 

The truth is that you don't really know that.




How do you know if herbal supplements' claims are true?


Manufacturers don't have to seek FDA approval before putting dietary supplements on the market. In addition, companies can claim that products address a nutrient deficiency, support health or are linked to body functions, if they have supporting research, and they include a disclaimer that the FDA hasn't evaluated the claim.

Manufacturers of herbal supplements are responsible for ensuring that the claims they make about their products aren't false or misleading and that they're backed up by adequate evidence. However, supplement makers aren't required to submit this evidence to the FDA. So be a smart consumer and do a little homework. Don't just rely on a product's marketing. Look for objective, research-based information to evaluate a product's claims. To get reliable information about a particular supplement:

1.) Ask your doctor or pharmacist. Even if they don't know about a specific supplement, they may be able to point you to the latest medical guidance about its uses and risks.

2.) Look for scientific research findings. Two good sources include the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM) and the Office of Dietary Supplements. Both have Web sites that provide information to help consumers make informed choices about dietary supplements.

3.) Contact the manufacturer. If you have questions about a specific product, call the manufacturer or distributor. Ask to talk with someone who can answer questions such as what data the company has to substantiate its products' claims

Echinacea to prevent colds. Ginkgo to improve memory. Flaxseed to lower cholesterol.

The list of herbal remedies goes on and on. Herbal remedies, sometimes called botanicals, aren't new; plants have been used for medicinal purposes for thousands of years. However, herbal supplements haven't been subjected to the same scientific scrutiny and aren't as strictly regulated as medications. For example, herbal supplement manufacturers don't have to get approval from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) before putting their products on the market.

Yet some herbal supplements — including products labeled as "natural" — have drug-like effects that can be dangerous. So it's important to do your homework and investigate potential benefits and side effects of herbal supplements before you buy. And be sure to talk with your doctor, especially if you take medications, have chronic health problems, or are pregnant or breast-feeding.
Are herbal supplements safe?

Herbal supplements are regulated by the FDA, but not as drugs or as foods. They fall under a category called dietary supplements. The rules for dietary supplements are as follows:


Manufacturers must follow good manufacturing practices (GMPs) to ensure that supplements are processed consistently and meet quality standards. GMPs are intended to keep the wrong ingredients and contaminants, such as pesticides and lead, out of supplements, as well as make sure that the right ingredients are included in appropriate amounts.
Once a dietary supplement is on the market, the FDA is responsible for monitoring its safety. If the FDA finds a product to be unsafe, it can take action against the manufacturer or distributor or both, and may issue a warning or require that the product be removed from the market.

These regulations provide consumers with the assurance that herbal supplements meet certain quality standards and that the FDA can intervene to remove dangerous products from the market. The rules do not, however, guarantee that herbal supplements are safe for anyone to use. Because many supplements contain active ingredients that have strong effects in the body, these products can pose unexpected risks. For example, taking a combination of herbal supplements or using supplements together with prescribed medications could lead to harmful, even life-threatening results. For this reason, it's important to talk with your doctor before using herbal supplements.

~Mayo Clinic


______________________________________________________________
Scam

(Dictionary.com)
? noun, verb, scammed, scam•ming.
1. a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.
–verb (used with object)
2. to cheat or defraud with a scam.

(Eecl.org)
1. A ploy by a shyster to raise money.
2., A fraudulent business scheme. To scam means to victimize: deprive of by deceit
3. A confidence trick

(Webster)
1 : to deceive and take money from (someone)
2 : to get (something, such as money) by deceiving someone

(My own definition)
To cleverly and consciously contrive the means to obtain material possessions (money) or guarded knowledge (classified information). This is a parasitic relationship in which the victim of the scheme suffers a loss and a benefit is gained by the conspirator.

If a company is selling a supplement and is lying about the ingredients or it's benefits (without proof how will you know?) then it's a scam. If not...then it isn't. Purchase carefully.

Like I said most thermogenics aka weightloss supplements (herbal combinations) are scams...I am talking about protein powders and multivitamin supplements (also not approved by fda and listed as dietary)...so I do not see the point of you posting that.
 
Like I said most thermogenics aka weightloss supplements (herbal combinations) are scams...I am talking about protein powders and multivitamin supplements (also not approved by fda and listed as dietary)...so I do not see the point of you posting that.

Have a nice day.
 

The truth is that you don't really know that.




How do you know if herbal supplements' claims are true?


Manufacturers don't have to seek FDA approval before putting dietary supplements on the market. In addition, companies can claim that products address a nutrient deficiency, support health or are linked to body functions, if they have supporting research, and they include a disclaimer that the FDA hasn't evaluated the claim.

Manufacturers of herbal supplements are responsible for ensuring that the claims they make about their products aren't false or misleading and that they're backed up by adequate evidence. However, supplement makers aren't required to submit this evidence to the FDA. So be a smart consumer and do a little homework. Don't just rely on a product's marketing. Look for objective, research-based information to evaluate a product's claims. To get reliable information about a particular supplement:

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Fasting is good but do not do it very much, other wise weakness will arise. And also try to avoid Fast Food, because its very unhealthy and i have a proof, Check out this KFC fried head fail picture.
 
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Fasting is good but do not do it very much, other wise weakness will arise. And also try to avoid Fast Food, because its very unhealthy and i have a proof, Check out this KFC fried head fail picture.



Fasting does nothing for weight loss, and health benefits are yet to be proven. As Fast Food, it can be unhealthy, but the picture is complete nonsense. And ages old. Hardly a proof for Fast Food being unhealthy.
 
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