ex-biggest looser fan, sounding off

I've seen it on a lot of forums around -people who refuse to get rid of their fat clothes - just in case... well if you have nothing that fits you -- then you don't have to worry about the just in case - focus less on the scale instead wear clothes that fit.. and when they get snug - adjust... but if you continually have larger sizes to go to -then well - it happens...

thats exactly what i'm saying... how can you see/feel yourself outgrow your clothes and not decide its time to get back into the rythm of things when you fall out... I personally have no intention of saving my clothes "just in case" I plan to have them altered instead if i can... But I agree. People need to get rid of their "fat clothes" so they dont have a comfortable place to land as the get fat
 
I wonder if regaining has anything to do with how quickly a person lost their weight. I have lost weight fairly quickly/easily in the past by just eating differently - but put it all back on again (plus more) once I hit size ___ and felt that I should be able to eat whatever I wanted.

This time I have absolutely made vigorous exercise part of my daily life/routine. Same with writing down my food intake, which keeps me aware of everything that goes in. And this is the longest I have ever been able to sustain my lower weight.

I am still not at my ultimate goal, but I am very optimistic that I won't revert to my lazy ways, as I have now made exercise and portion control a habit. If I don't do it for a couple of days, I get mighty uptight.

JM2C
ABBA
 
ABBAgirl,

Personally, I really like the show! I find it highly entertaining and motivating. I am not fond of Jillian's methods, as she comes across as quite ...er...uptight, shall we say. And some of the contestants are truly over the top (this week's argument between the two gals was a case in point) - but again, that's entertainment! I love the before and afters, and I think if it gets folks at home moving more, it's great!

That's true about getting folks motivated. I do know that it does that for sure. I have a friend that wanted to try & get on the Biggest Loser with me. I declined, and he went on to lose weight on his own. :)

LeaJNice,

Now I am wanting to know how much of this show is staged.

Me too. Chances are, more than 60%. Case in point- the interviews. How would they be able to share their thoughts when it hasn't happened yet, however, that's shown during the actual event? That part is staged for sure.

The producers, director, and all those other people behind the scenes- would have to tell the contestants where to stand, and not to look at the camera, and explain in detail what is to take place. Things like that. That's definitely not included.

Also, the editor has to decide what to leave in, and what to leave out. Sometimes, the whole thing really took place for 2 weeks, but the weigh-in is "for a week". Another thing I caught was, last season, they celebrated Thanksgiving or was it Halloween? Anyway, either one- while in fact, this whole ordeal at the ranch really took place months prior to the airtime. They were filming ahead, and pretending that it was the holidays in order to fit in the actual holidays when the show was aired.

G
 
Michelly85,

I think it has something to do with reverting back to your old habits and then one thing leads another *poof* you're obese again. It's sad that it's almost something uncontrollable.

You're very highly likely right. They weren't obese for no reason in the first place. In this forum, the theme is repeated many times- It's a lifestyle change. Maybe these people just don't get it- or they decide that their pleasure in eating however the way they want takes precedence in terms to how they look & feel. It's sad.



Mother of 2,

I dont understand the whole one pound here one pound there "poof" your fat again... i know that if i stood on the scale and even saw a 5-10 lb increase my ass would shift back into gear... Are these people just not looking in the mirror not stepping on the scale anymore? I guess thats just me...

I'm with ya on that.
 
Maleficent,
People need to get rid of their "fat clothes" so they dont have a comfortable place to land as the get fat

That's a very good point. I'm with you 100% on that. The last time I lost weight, I kept my "fat" clothes. I was like "well, if I ever gained some weight, at least I got something to wear". This time around, I'm cutting my old clothes up and adding them to my shop rag collection. :D



ABBAgirl,
I wonder if regaining has anything to do with how quickly a person lost their weight. I have lost weight fairly quickly/easily in the past by just eating differently - but put it all back on again (plus more) once I hit size ___ and felt that I should be able to eat whatever I wanted.

Some of it, probably, if they do not work seriously in figuring out exactly when does their food intake/daily routine meet the equilibrium of keeping their weight evenly stable. I lost 80 lbs in just a few months when I was a kid, it took me 9 years to gain all of it back. So, I'm not too sure if it's solely on the fact that weight is lost so quickly. I believe it's more about not changing the lifestyle and looking at things scientifically.


Sorry guys about the multiple posts, catching up on posts today. :)
 
Maleficent,


That's a very good point. I'm with you 100% on that. The last time I lost weight, I kept my "fat" clothes. I was like "well, if I ever gained some weight, at least I got something to wear". This time around, I'm cutting my old clothes up and adding them to my shop rag collection. :D

Don't do that. Bag them up and bring them to good will. Then you pick out some new clothes in your new size. Win-win!
 
Trops,

I restore antiques for a hobby. Staining and finishing requires rags. I also work on a lot of motor stuff in my garage. (I'm a hard-core garage/shop guy) Definitely need rags for that. Paper towels don't do any good when an engine's loaded with grease. :( These clothes that I will cut up into rags are mostly T-shirts that is almost worn out.

The good button-up shirts & jeans (useless as rags) will definitely go to goodwill. :)


:beerchug:,
George
 
My opinion, and mine only: Biggest Loser = Biggest Waste of MY Time. Most 'reality' shows are, IMO, but I admit my favorite "time wasters" have been "So You Think You Can Dance", "Hell's Kitchen" and "Dancing With The Stars".

thats exactly what i'm saying... how can you see/feel yourself outgrow your clothes and not decide its time to get back into the rythm of things when you fall out... I personally have no intention of saving my clothes "just in case" I plan to have them altered instead if i can... But I agree. People need to get rid of their "fat clothes" so they dont have a comfortable place to land as the get fat

Don't do that. Bag them up and bring them to good will. Then you pick out some new clothes in your new size. Win-win!

So far I've taken 4 large garbage bags full of clothes to Goodwill, and I've managed to score a couple pairs of Levi's 501s that were practically brand new.

Last night I did another wave of closet cleaning, and I've managed to accumulate yet another pile of things that are either going to Goodwill, or I'm dragging out the sewing machine to see if I can alter them. I also know of a woman out here that does alterations that are beyond my basic sewing skills… she is the one that the ladies at Sarah's Bare Necessities sends work to.

Trops,

I restore antiques for a hobby. Staining and finishing requires rags. I also work on a lot of motor stuff in my garage. (I'm a hard-core garage/shop guy) Definitely need rags for that. Paper towels don't do any good when an engine's loaded with grease. :( These clothes that I will cut up into rags are mostly T-shirts that is almost worn out.

The good button-up shirts & jeans (useless as rags) will definitely go to goodwill. :)


:beerchug:,
George

Gotta love t-shirt material for projects!

The one pair of "fat pants" I'm hanging on to for the moment are the ones I'm holding in my avatar pic. I need to do another 'before & after' photo shoot, then I'm converting those in to something.
 
An international broadcasting/viewing platform has just that much more power to 'strike up the band' internally. If 100 people found their start because of BL, that's great. That's 100 people who found their 'lightning bolt'. I'd never diss anyone for that. We all have different stories and reasons of what made us get busy.

As for 'life imitating art', I think 99.9% of the 'inspired' know right off the bat, their environment is nowhere mimickable to BL Ranch. I think 'inspired' and 'motivated' are the key differences at this point.

For all that's viewable to the big screen, capsulating two hours of someone else's sweat and effort in an optimum facility is very inspiring while you're sitting there sucking down a 2 Liter of Pepsi with a bag of Scoops and dip on the coffee table - knowing you're viewing what you wish you had the whump to get started yourself. A truly motivated person will head to the sink with the 2 Liter, pour it down the drain, crumple up the bag of corn chips and take it, along with the dip, and bin it for the landfill.

The motivated will find a way to get past the fact they don't have Bob or Jillian and that beautiful landscaped setting in the hills of a perfect California sun at their disposal. The inspired will thrash around the guilt, eschew the sacrifice involved, and ultimately rationalize the opportunity just isn't there unless, of course, they get accepted on next season's show.

It's always a compelling argument just what does BL do wrong. I don't have a clear answers for that. I'm no fitness expert. I think the show extends its resources to a standard of beyond reality to the average human's means - which should be a good thing trainers. Most people will never see/use/consider a PT. BL is advertising your service for you, I would think. Yet it seems that's a vocal area of disagreement of their methods. Well I guess a church is a church. But if you study or pray to Methodism and enter a Catholic church, then I guess the big picture of 'God Almighty' being the common denominator gets overlooked.

I know people have opinions of BL 'jumping the shark' for product placement/ads. Again, the show is largely successful because two-thirds of the population is overweight or worse. A case of 'We the People' spoke with our remotes and Nielsen ratings supported NBC's cash-cow worthiness. It's no mystery only mega-corporations can afford this slot, now. And like free marketing execs do, they push for the most bang for their buck. If Wrigley's or Jello is going to throw you 8-digits checks, I doubt you're gonna say 'No thanks' even if you have to do what they request.

We don't have to like it, we have to buy the product - or at least that's what is trying to be achieved here. Weight losers still need to be aware that chewing sugarless gum still needs the same responsibility as pizza or whatever. 2 slices = 400 cals - 8 packs of gum = 400 cals. I know I made this mistake thinking excessive altering of staving off hunger with s-gum was no calorie benefit reduction at all if you're still hungry.

So on to the shows drama and shenanigans, well I take it for what is: entertainment. I do like the emotional victories, though. I'm a sucker for weight lose victory.

As far as weight gain post-show, I did the leg work for this on another thread and mostly, 25 lbs was the average. Ironically, the same number I crested at. And even more ironically, that's about my limit (to current clothes size) because I did chuck my 'fat clothes'. I never questioned keeping them. I can't think of a better way to wave a white flag. This says 'I'm not in this for life' by clutching onto those old tents. Fuck that.

I hope you don't take my rant as a BL fanboy, I'm not. I'm 100% against the voting off part. I don't have an answer on a format change, either. I just think it's bad to send home people for trying. And no, I have not watched an episode of the current show. I did join the Family version that just ended in Dec with about 4 weeks to go. I guess it's good TV to see the end results. I can truly appreciate all they've done, if nothing else.

/rant
 
Phoeynx,

My opinion, and mine only: Biggest Loser = Biggest Waste of MY Time. Most 'reality' shows are, IMO, but I admit my favorite "time wasters" have been "So You Think You Can Dance", "Hell's Kitchen" and "Dancing With The Stars".

*grins* I'm not much for other reality shows, but for some weird reason, I like the Biggest Loser. I cannot stand those others like "Survivor", or "American Idol" or "Hell's Kitchen" "Runway" and those others. But, hey, we're all entitled to a few time waster shows. ;) Imagine that- I used to enjoy watching Springer for a few months. Now, I cannot stand that show. Heh...

Gotta love t-shirt material for projects!
Amen to that!

The one pair of "fat pants" I'm hanging on to for the moment are the ones I'm holding in my avatar pic. I need to do another 'before & after' photo shoot, then I'm converting those in to something.

That's a great idea! I wonder if it'd be feasible to do a quilt type of thing? Like a blanket or a sofa cover. I'd imagine that the old jean blanket would be a helluva way to remind one of how large they were before. Hell of a motivator. In fact, that's something I could do... Hm... I do have several jeans that are too big... Could make a helluva quilt out of that. Cut one pair of jeans in half, put it right in the middle and cut the rest of the jeans in squares and sew em together... That way there'd be squares around the jeans. Put cotton padding in, and use some smooth fabric for the other side. That would last ...

George
 
T2 Trucker,

Love what you had to say. Heh. Well said!

For all that's viewable to the big screen, capsulating two hours of someone else's sweat and effort in an optimum facility is very inspiring while you're sitting there sucking down a 2 Liter of Pepsi with a bag of Scoops and dip on the coffee table - knowing you're viewing what you wish you had the whump to get started yourself. A truly motivated person will head to the sink with the 2 Liter, pour it down the drain, crumple up the bag of corn chips and take it, along with the dip, and bin it for the landfill.

That's for sure. The show itself didn't motivate me. It was the end results. LOL. Unfortunately, one had to watch the whole season to see the end results, might as well eat a bag of chips and drink a 2L soda. LOL, Or at least, that's how I used to think.

Be assured, I don't do that anymore for sure-

I think the show extends its resources to a standard of beyond reality to the average human's means - which should be a good thing trainers. Most people will never see/use/consider a PT.

Very true.

...I did chuck my 'fat clothes'. I never questioned keeping them. I can't think of a better way to wave a white flag. This says 'I'm not in this for life' by clutching onto those old tents. Fuck that.

Well said!

I hope you don't take my rant as a BL fanboy, I'm not. I'm 100% against the voting off part. I don't have an answer on a format change, either. I just think it's bad to send home people for trying. And no, I have not watched an episode of the current show. I did join the Family version that just ended in Dec with about 4 weeks to go. I guess it's good TV to see the end results. I can truly appreciate all they've done, if nothing else.

Not at all, gave me a good laugh. Love those rants.

George
 
read around here... there's a lot of yo-yo dieters... people who've said they've lost xx amount of weight on diet xxx - only to have not really changed any habits -but instead dieted... then they get to goal xx - and resume old habits...

I've seen it on a lot of forums around -people who refuse to get rid of their fat clothes - just in case... well if you have nothing that fits you -- then you don't have to worry about the just in case - focus less on the scale instead wear clothes that fit.. and when they get snug - adjust... but if you continually have larger sizes to go to -then well - it happens...

I have only 2 pairs of "fat" pants in my house, and they're from when I was at my largest so I can't really wear them at all. I give my clothing away as it becomes too large.

Don't do that. Bag them up and bring them to good will. Then you pick out some new clothes in your new size. Win-win!

Bingo!
 
BTW I've never watched Biggest Loser. Maybe that's why I like Jillian Michaels on the 30 Day Shred; I don't see her reality TV persona.
 
I find it entertaining to. I know that their workout schedule is unralistic and people at home will never have the rapid weight losses they do, but it is still fun to watch. I usually ff through the workouts anyway. I like to watch the temptations, the challenges and the weigh ins. Some times I'll stop in between. I'm still a fan of the show.
 
I've only seen bits and pieces of the show, usually while at work. Maybe it hits a little too close to home is why I didn't watch it before and once I was actively in this forum I was also too busy.

But I was reading alot of the discussion in this thread about them gaining it back and how that happens. Honestly I can speak from experience here, as can probably alot of us, having been heavy my entire life. When I got chunky as a kid my mom put me on Atkins and I think I was only around 5. So I do have a few pics of me thin around 5 and 6, although I didn't know it. I guess once I was told I was a fattie I just believed it always.

I had a lady at a WW meeting once also say something similar, how do people let themselves go like this and just not notice. She had maybe 20 pounds to lose and really didn't get it. I honestly believe there is a huge difference psychologically between people who have had a momentary weight problem and those who have been battling the weight for years if not their entire life. My mom and I were examples of this. She had always been thin and only had a brief few years of struggling with her weight when I was in highschool. She was able to lose the weight, one time and never looked back. In her eyes it was easy and she didn't understand what my problem was. But honestly being thin is as foreign to me as being fat was to her. Not only have I had difficulty even believing I CAN be thin, I realize now subconsciously I didn't think I deserved to be since having fought this for so long.

As far as not noticing, well for me personally I'm wearing the same clothes I was wearing at 350 and I'm down 25 pounds. It'll be a long time before I can find jeans that fit so with knit pants and T-shirts it's very easy to not notice the weight either way. Even now I can't see any difference and in the past I didn't notice it that much even when I lost 50. And since most people don't weigh themselves when they know they aren't doing something about their weight, it'd be very easy to just fall into old eating habits "taking a break" and have it all come back, usually very quickly. My body has been pretty efficient until recently about packing on the pounds pretty fast.

That's one of the main differences for me now. I finally got a doctor that didn't say "oh you're just fat" and I got a diagnosis that my body WAS fighting against me. I have pcos and insulin resistance, which causes my body to not be able to process everything I eat and just stores it as fat. Luckily now that I'm getting treatment it's day and night difference. It's not easy but this has helped immensely.

Also finding this forum has been another reason I think I'm finally going to get it this time. Even though I was doing everything I knew to do, it wasn't what I needed to be doing. I always heard "life style" change but I didn't really get it. But I'm still learning on a day to day basis and trying to get around old mindsets and realize I CAN actually be thin. It's a daily process for sure and scary how easy it would be to screw it all up.
 
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Randy, you the man! ;)
Perfect way to put it all.
I agree.
*******

Everyone is different..

You will hate it or you'll love it.

I love it bc I understand what it is.

It's a show where you can pick up pretty good tips, get inspired, gain ideas, and be entertained..

I do *wish* they would go back to the "old ways" of the first 2 seasons tho where you did get more of the nutriton/exercise info/less drama.

I'd like to see them do things kinda like Diet Tribe..(Lifetime)
I really enjoyed that!
No voting off or vote off drama.

The BL is what it is and I like it.
:)

*Jillian Rocks!*
:D
 
I thought that this show would change a little bit this season...

Well, that didn't happen... I can't believe that the silver team were apart for like 3 months after going home. Ugh.
 
I thought that this show would change a little bit this season...

Well, that didn't happen... I can't believe that the silver team were apart for like 3 months after going home. Ugh.



Ya, Im not suprised realy. I got to say, Im glad to see her go.
 
I can understand why some people don't like the show, but I enjoy it. I do find it inspirational, though I understand that a large part of the show is fake.

As far as the previous contestants gaining weight back, yeah some of them have and it's not that surprising. Not everyone is going to benefit mentally from that experience and have it stick. If the previous contestants don't stick to the plan, they're going to gain it back. As long as a decent amount of the contestants keep the weight off in the long term, I still think the program probably does work, even if it is really extreme.
 
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