Do men find fat women attractive?

[Ronbell]

His points in the video are valid. He obviously can't be speaking for all men if there are actual overweight women who have got a man. Haha.

If you push all the conservative feelings aside, you see a pretty woman, take Kristie Alley for example, and more people are going to be attracted to her when she was slim, then when she was overweight. It's just an overall numbers game that's all. So instead of 10 people thinking she looks great when she's slim, maybe of that same 10 only 4 of them still find her attractive. It doesn't mean ALL men find her unattractive. Fat women just limit their audience as it's not as desirable as someone who is slim.

Everyone has preferences, but humans naturally find looking healthy to be attractive. Imagine you do actually reach your weight loss goals, and you're in the 15-20% body fat range. Now put two guys side by side, one obese, one average weight, are you going to be more opened to the average weight guy? You better believe you are. Before you even determine who has the better personality, you can tell by appearance that the overweight guy has bad habits, that took you a LONG time to swing. You don't need that negative reinforcement dragging you back. It's why more often than not, people with similar characteristics are attracted to each other. There's always exceptions to the rules.

Although it would be nice if everyone could live in a world where everyone and everything is equal, it doesn't work that way. If you're just going to dwell on how unfair things are, instead of motivating yourself to change your situation, your goals are going to be much harder to reach.

 

[Tamago]

Have usually been attracted to slim girls myself..there is definitely such a thing as too skinny, but I think a lot of people would prefer too skinny over too fat (unfortunately personal tastes are often not PC)...appearance is just one part of the equation though..would you really want a guy who rejects you outright because you're a little overweight anyways? there are many many fish in the sea.

 

[MustangSwtie69]

does it really matter all that much? think about the kinds of people you are attracted to, then apply it to someones views on you. I'm a big girl, always wanted some guy to love me for me. Found one. But we've both admitted that we (both) need to lose weight. More so for ourselves. He loves me, but he'd find me a lot more attractive if I were skinnIER not skinny but skinnIER.

That and, really, why do big girls always say "men are shallow, they dont give big girls a chance". Women do the same thing to men. It's like those people who say "love yourself, even if youre over weight!" "big is beautiful" no bigger is beautiful, obese, is not. Everyone SHOULD be loved for who they are. But the world isnt perfect.

If you are that worried about finding someone right this minute, look at it this way. Find someone who shares goals with you. Who is active and will help you help yourself. If someone gets to know you and needs that extra push remind them that you are trying to change yourself, bodywise, as well and would like them to experience it with you.

other then that, the cold part is, lose weight or shut up. I knw that sounds horribly rude and I've been around this site for yeaaaars (under another name) to knw that sometimes rudeness needs to be blunt and said. If you are worried about men not finding you attractive, then change your weight.

 

[caddyguy]

Not enough categories

What I like is athletic women with some curves. Most skinny woman get that way by just dieting. The look great in clothes but the naked truth is loose skin and no muscle tone.

 

[ChefChiTown]

Here is the link to the video:


I just watched this video and almost can’t believe some of the stuff this guy says, and I am now left wondering whether or not this guy is right.

Let me just say this...

I didn't even have to watch that video or hear what that guy said in order to tell you that he's dead wrong.

Are men pigs? Yes.
Are men shallow? Yes.
Are men superficial? Yes.
Are men scumbags? Yes.
Are men womanizers? Yes.

But, not ALL men are like that. Don't let that one jackass speak for us all. I'll take personality over looks any day of the week. And, if I could dip down and become selfish and vain for a moment, allow me to say that I actually prefer women that have a little bit of weight on them. If was given a choice and I had to make it, I would take a bigger girl over a skinny bitch any day of the week as well.

Look, women care about their looks but for all the wrong reasons. Society makes it seem like women are going to die alone if they don't look a certain way, wear certain clothes or have a certain haircut. None of that matters at all. It's a total bullshit mentality that we, as stupid human beings, fall prey to. We give into this state of mind that we have to be "perfect" - that we have to have the perfect bodies, most stylish clothes and the most popular lifestyle. And, what's worse is that we all KNOW it's a stupid bullshit mentality, but we don't do aaaaanything about it. Very few of us actually take a stand for ourselves and refuse to buy into the load of crap that is our society's point of view.

It's a cliche statement and I hate to beat a dead horse, but real beauty is found on the inside. I don't care what a woman looks like. If she can't make me laugh, if she can't hold an intelligent conversion, if she can't make me feel safe, comfortable, wanted, needed, important, happy or loved, then I don't want anything to do with her.

Don't believe the hype, especially when it's coming from us stupid men.

 

[onelove1]

Im not a guy but I dont think that every man wants a super slim girl. My boyfriend is slim and Im curvy (Im 5'6 an weight 159ish) but he seems to like me just fine! I would think that men like a little something to grab onto. I think extremely thin girls are sexy at all!

 

[Ronbell]

I greatly disagree what's been said 2 posts above.

He seems to like blaming his entire sex for a condition that falls amongst every single person. Don't let women fool you.

Women are JUST as shallow as men are, they just lie about it better. The only time the "men/women are shallow" argument comes into effect is when a person is turned down for whatever reason, and pigeonholes the answer as "men are shallow", so that she (or he) can feel like the situation was out of their control.

To pretend that you don't find a skinny, healthy looking person with nice genetic traits to be attractive over a fatter person is completely delusional. That's like saying Michelangelo's David would better with a beer gut, or the Mona Lisa needs more crows feet and a bit of hair on her upper lip.

All the media does, is raise the bar for individual expectations, because you don't see these exceptionally beautiful people every day. The fact that people are actually dating other people is evidence enough that this issue is overblown, and is just an excuse for insecure people.

 

[Holly88]

I'm shallow sometimes. I had a super skinny bf but lately, since knowing me (hah), he got a little tiny gut and I thought 'hm, where did his lovely flat tummy go'?

However, I've got to say that I still whole heartedly agree with this statement:

It's a cliche statement and I hate to beat a dead horse, but real beauty is found on the inside. I don't care what a woman looks like. If she can't make me laugh, if she can't hold an intelligent conversion, if she can't make me feel safe, comfortable, wanted, needed, important, happy or loved, then I don't want anything to do with her.

Except I like men

I don't care if Johnny Depp was stood in front of me, if he'd had some kind of personality transplant and was boring, arrogant, selfish, ignorant or any other unattactive personality trait, I would go for the funny, lovely, kind chubbier guy with the funny nose any day (personally I find this slightly chubby fellow very attractive because he's so funny - )

Thing is, few people are an extreme. Everyone's a mix bag of personality traits, features and body shape - all that stuff that makes a human. People might be shallow but you're not gonna tell me they'll be with someone PURELY based on looks and be content? It's a balance and a personal preference thing.

THUS... these kind of questions are fairly redundant... It's like asking the exact shade of your iris - everyone's different and really does it matter if mine is different to your's? It's life, it's variety!

There we go, I echoed the obvious general consensus yet again!

 

[ChefChiTown]

I greatly disagree what's been said 2 posts above.

He seems to like blaming his entire sex for a condition that falls amongst every single person. Don't let women fool you.

Where exactly did I blame anybody for anything? Try reading my posts and understanding the words that you are looking at before you try and rebut somebody's statement.

Nowhere did I blame anybody for anything. Not men, not women, not anybody. And, if you would've actually read my post, you would've seen that after I listed my "Are men" questions, I clearly stated that not all men are like that (assuming that's where you are getting this "blaming his entire sex" thing from).

Women are JUST as shallow as men are, they just lie about it better. The only time the "men/women are shallow" argument comes into effect is when a person is turned down for whatever reason, and pigeonholes the answer as "men are shallow", so that she (or he) can feel like the situation was out of their control.

To pretend that you don't find a skinny, healthy looking person with nice genetic traits to be attractive over a fatter person is completely delusional. That's like saying Michelangelo's David would better with a beer gut, or the Mona Lisa needs more crows feet and a bit of hair on her upper lip.

To pretend like you know what I find to be attractive is delusion.

Not everybody is attracted to the same thing. Whether it's music, movies, clothes, cars, pizza toppings, colors, men or women...we are all attracted to different things.

And, if you are going to try and tell people how life works, you should probably stop contradicting yourself. First you say...

The only time the "men/women are shallow" argument comes into effect is when a person is turned down for whatever reason, and pigeonholes the answer as "men are shallow", so that she (or he) can feel like the situation was out of their control.

Then you say...

To pretend that you don't find a skinny, healthy looking person with nice genetic traits to be attractive over a fatter person is completely delusional.

You are basically saying that there is no way that I don't find skinnier, more healthy looking women more attractive than larger females, as if it is a biologically supported fact that skinny, healthy looking women are better. THAT is shallow. Judging a person on nothing more than their looks is shallow. And, that is exactly what you are doing when you claim that there is no way that I can be more attracted to a fat woman than I would be to a skinny, healthy looking woman.

I mean, didn't you just say that people only use the shallow argument as an excuse just so we can make ourselves feel like the situation is out of our control, as if it's not our fault if we are judged on our looks? Even though you just argued that there is no way that someone could possibly find a heavier woman more attractive than a skinny, healthy looking woman, which would mean that a person's shallowness towards our looks is out of our control?

All the media does, is raise the bar for individual expectations, because you don't see these exceptionally beautiful people every day. The fact that people are actually dating other people is evidence enough that this issue is overblown, and is just an excuse for insecure people.

I lived in Chicago for 4 years. I saw exceptionally beautiful people every single minute of every single day. Yet, I don't have shallow expectations or attractions when it comes to relationships. But, how can that be?!?!?! To not be attracted to the most physically beautiful people in the world is just preposterous!!! So, how is that so?

Because, as I said before, real beauty is on the inside. And, no...that's not something that ugly people say in order to make themselves feel better - it's something that grown up, mature people say because it's true.

 

[Big D]

You all make this way too complicated, then go on trying to apologize for your gender.

here's the basic outlook.. given the same person for everything but their weight/build, who you going to pick: very skinny, skinny, slim or obese? I mean, it seems like a pretty simple and straightforward question, but I think a number of people fear others opinion over their answer so they have to qualify it and hedge their bets.

 

[nc01sadh]

But what is your reason for it? If it is to see what others really see, you will never see a real answer cause you have no where near enough choices. It is like saying Are you normal? Well, what is normal. Same with personal tastes.


If it is for your own validation of self worth, that is something you need inside and to talk about.

I like your answer. I suggest the writer of this post to change her own views and psycho-analyze herself. Because none is perfect yet people are oblivious to this fact.

 

[DanDan1]

personally i think its not a clever poll. but! there are people with a preference. and theres people who can see past who u might loook like on the outside blah blah. theres no definate answer to be had to tar everyone with the same brush . and as some one aid there are people on here with issues a poll such as this might be ok for a mens magazine but not here.

 

[divyaahuja52]

Yes, I think That Men Finds Fat Women attractive.

 

[Ronbell]

Where exactly did I blame anybody for anything? Try reading my posts and understanding the words that you are looking at before you try and rebut somebody's statement.

You're blaming men. People with some form of emotional intelligence know how to read in between the lines.

Your definition of shallow is entirely flawed. Shallow is judging someone for social reasons, not for physical preferences.

Everyone has physical preferences, and my point is that the majority of people will find a slim woman more attractive than a fat woman...HANDS DOWN. This is undeniable and to blame it on all those reasons you listed above is entirely delusional, and your ego self-boosting doesn't conform to what IS human nature, so don't think you're fooling anyone.

The only reason someone will be drawn to an overweight woman in that scenario, is because they don't feel adequate enough to be able to provide her with what she's looking for. AKA: They know they wouldn't stand a chance, and would have better luck with a fat girl.

Judging people based on appearance is a SURVIVAL TRAIT, which actually was one of the first parts of the brain to be developed; long before "opinion" was developed. That's why emotions and first reactions often override actual logic, and people are more drawn to others based on their emotional response to seeing that person. IE: I'm DRAWN to an attractive thin woman, it in NO WAY means that I would want a relationship with or, or that her personality would be better matched for me than that of a fat person.

I reiterate, it simply means if neither one of them have said a word to me, the one who has grabbed my attention is the attractive (thin healthy looking) one.

You're a very emotional person, and you've totally overlooked the purpose of my posts and the purpose of this thread. In no way is my posts geared towards what is more suitable for a relationship, and to discriminate against all overweight women. It's to say that: given two people, side by side, (hell, it could even be the same person, just at different weight), that the average person will, 99% of the time, be more DRAWN and attracted to an average weight person. It's not "being shallow", it's science.

Inner beauty has no relevance in this thread, as were talking essentially about first impressions. But of course you had to come in here to imply that you're somehow different and try and rally some support with these insecure women.

My only explanation to your reaction is simply because you're overweight yourself, and wouldn't like to be judged in the same light. Sorry bud, you're no exception.

I've made my point, if you're unable to process it, that's your problem. I'm not replying in this thread anymore.

 

[San2]

Hm.

I'm not a guy, but I still think you're dead wrong, Ron. On several accounts.

From personal experience I know that most overweight women actually have rather attractive partners, who certainly didn't chose these women because they couldn't get 'anything better'.

I think you hugely underestimate your own gender. Yes, some men are shallow idiots, but there's the same amount of women who are just the same.

I find your comment about 'insecure women' massively inappropriate by the way. You're implying that women who are overweight are insecure. Another thing, I can reassure you, that you're totally wrong about.

According to you, inner beauty has no relevance in this thread, and again, you're wrong. It does have relevance. Because inner beauty is something that can show at first sight, just as much as 'outer beauty'. As for people prefering a skinny (healthy) woman over a fat one....well...a few points:

a) skinny is not healthy
b) a healthy woman has curves, not edges
c) 'fat' is a matter of opinion. What's fat for one might just be 'curvy' for another.

I don't know about anybody else, but I would prefer a man or woman with some weight on them over a skinny one any day of the week, if we go by pure looks. I think there is nothing more disgusting, especially on a woman, than a six-pack for example. Models with no curves and the bones showing at their chest are just not attractive, and it has shown in surveys and stuff more than once that men actually *do* prefer more curvy, even so-called 'fat' women over skinny ones.

I agree with Chef.

And the video is junk. Just some idiot who likes to hear himself talk, and has no idea how to make valid points. The only thing he achieved, imo, is to look like an arrogant idiot. If you think that's valid.....well, to each their own.

And just one more thing, about your 'survival trait' theory. You even got that wrong. If we were still functioning like that on a basic level, we would be even more drawn to the overweight person, since it has nothing to do with physical attraction whatsoever. It's survivability - big person, more chance of survival. Must be good at providing food. Curvy, cuddly person - childbearing instinct. Breeding and feeding, it's as easy as that. There are quite a few cultures where an overweight woman is still a status symbol, and has been for a long time - if a man has a large woman, it means he is a good provider, can feed his family. A skinny woman is a sign of failure on the man's part in those cultures. Just thought I'd mention it.

 

[Ronbell]

From personal experience I know that most overweight women actually have rather attractive partners, who certainly didn't chose these women because they couldn't get 'anything better'.

The purpose of this thread is based on physical traits, not personal. Relationships are more realiant than just that 1 dimension, as I've been trying to say in my THREE posts on the subject.

I think you hugely underestimate your own gender. Yes, some men are shallow idiots, but there's the same amount of women who are just the same.

I think you might have either read chefs post here, or misunderstood something I've said.

I find your comment about 'insecure women' massively inappropriate by the way. You're implying that women who are overweight are insecure. Another thing, I can reassure you, that you're totally wrong about.

Women who blame rejection souly on thier weight are entirely insecure. As we have both stated, overweight women CAN get with attractive guys.

Same scenario: I'm slightly overweight, I try and meet a girl who is fit. She rejects me, I come here and say: "fit girls are shallow, they only like buff guys". When in actuality, had I modified my approach, or even approached at a different time, I could have been successful. I don't know what the true circumstances were, but if I did something differently, she may have been able to overcome my flaws in appearance if I managed to appease what she's looking for in a man. Me entirely blaming the failure on my overweightness would entirely be insecurity, as no one will ever know what situation would have needed to occur to change the results.


I don't underestimate any gender, people who deny actual beauty over PC mentalies are LYING to themselves. Refering back to my example with Christie Alley. Do you think she's better looking FAT, or THIN, be honest. Don't spout out this rhetorical nonsense on what people's opionions should be, give me your HONEST opionion. Is she more attractive? Not: well, she looks happier fatter than when she was skinny...no! no! no!


When I say skinny, I mean slim, just as the majority of the pollsters had selected slim as their response. Remember this is a weight loss forum as well, and people are more sympathetic towards overweight individuals than the average population would be.

Men prefer women with nice Hip to waist ratios. That is the number one physical trait that trumps even breast size. A slim waist is what provides this ratio. But again, this is just one item on a HUGE checklist that determines relationship compatibility. You cannot deny being slim will be a negative trait on the list of desirable traits for 90% of the population.

The purpose of my arguments is based on FAT women vs. SLIM women, and 9 times out of 10, the survey takers would prefer a slim woman. Just as the guy said in the video.

And just one more thing, about your 'survival trait' theory. You even got that wrong. If we were still functioning like that on a basic level, we would be even more drawn to the overweight person, since it has nothing to do with physical attraction whatsoever. It's survivability - big person, more chance of survival. Must be good at providing food. Curvy, cuddly person - childbearing instinct. Breeding and feeding, it's as easy as that. There are quite a few cultures where an overweight woman is still a status symbol, and has been for a long time - if a man has a large woman, it means he is a good provider, can feed his family. A skinny woman is a sign of failure on the man's part in those cultures. Just thought I'd mention it.

I think you need to trace actual human lineage and development a little bit closer than these generalizations. I'm presenting scientic fact, based on the evolution and development of the human brain. It wasn't until the neocortex had evolved that we were capible of such decisions to even come up with the conclussion that a fat person would be a better child bearer or provider of food. (both are not valid by the way)

Being overweight is a status symbol in some countries, you're right, but you're talking since the advent of religion and the post development of the cortex/neocortex. Meaning these a rational decisions that are being made, not based on emotion. Attraction is based on emotion and not entirely logic. You're discussing people that typically have arranged unions, and these relationships are usually arranged based on traditions, and not attraction.

I think you're looking at this discussion in the wrong light, I think my first post sums up this topic nicely.

 

[MyNameIsTerry]

I chose slim, but really a woman doesn't necessarily need to be slim to be considered physically attractive to me. I don't mind a bit of thickness on a woman.

 

[ChefChiTown]

You're blaming men. People with some form of emotional intelligence know how to read in between the lines.

See, when I talk (type), people don't have to read between the lines because I'm probably the most straight forward person that you'll ever know. Try looking at any of my posts on this forum and just see if you can find an instance where I hold back, beat around the bush or say something in such a manner that one would have to "read between the lines".

I'm not blaming shit. If I was, then I'd say "I blame (insert whatever here)". So, once again, where exactly am I blaming anybody?

Your definition of shallow is entirely flawed. Shallow is judging someone for social reasons, not for physical preferences.

No, your definition of shallow is entirely flawed. The reason that it's called being shallow is because it's an act of refusing to see someone for who they are on the inside, instead, judging them solely on what's on the surface. And, since those people don't look too deep inside of anybody before they form an opinion on them and solely look at what's on the surface, they are being shallow. The word shallow literally references what's near the surface. In this case, that means a person's looks.

Main Entry: 1shal·low
Pronunciation: \?sha-(?)l?\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English schalowe; probably akin to Old English sceald shallow — more at skeleton
Date: 14th century
1 : having little depth <shallow water>

3 a : penetrating only the easily or quickly perceived <shallow generalizations

Everyone has physical preferences, and my point is that the majority of people will find a slim woman more attractive than a fat woman...HANDS DOWN. This is undeniable and to blame it on all those reasons you listed above is entirely delusional, and your ego self-boosting doesn't conform to what IS human nature, so don't think you're fooling anyone.

You do realize that using the "human nature" argument is the absolute worst thing that you could possibly do in this case, right? Why, you ask? Oh, I'll tell you...

Skinny women have not always been perceived as the most attractive type of woman. The same goes for men. Throughout history, what has been perceived as desirable to the opposite sex has gone through great changes. There were times when fat men were considered to be the most desirable and there were times when fat women were considered to be the most desirable. There were times when bearded men were considered to be the most desirable. There were times when men with long hair were considered to the most desirable. Etc.

Even today, we (as humans) illustrate a vast variety of what we perceive to be the most desirable. Did you know that there are parts of the world where women with body and/or facial hair are considered sexier than the rest? Did you know that there are parts of the world where women with flat chests are considered sexier than the rest? Hell, there are even parts of the world where women with deep voices, women with large ankles, women with lots of children and even those hideously repulsive fat women, which you believe that absolutely nobody in their right mind could possibly be attracted to, are considered sexier than the rest.

What we (as humans) have perceived as desirable has changed many, many, many, many times throughout the course of our existence. Human nature, however, has not. Human nature never changes, as it is an uncontrollable phenomenon that drives us to do things that we have no explanation for. If human nature was to be attracted to one certain type of individual over the others, then we wouldn't have such a wide variety of what we perceive to be sexy. Not throughout the city I live in, not throughout this country, not throughout this continent, the world or even throughout the course of history.

Oh, and here's a quick piece of food for thought...

Human nature tells us, as humans, to procreate. Human nature tells us to spread our seed and make children so our species can live on and survive. Common sense tells you that human nature would obviously be telling men to go after women and for women to go after men. Correct? Well...

EXPLAIN GAY PEOPLE

If human nature tells us to be attracted to members of the opposite sex, which will lead to us spreading our seed, making children and, in essence, continue the existence of our species, then explain how there are people that aren't even attracted to the opposite sex in the first place? Instead, they are attracted to the same sex, which completely defies your precious "human nature" and the argument that you are trying to use here.

The only reason someone will be drawn to an overweight woman in that scenario, is because they don't feel adequate enough to be able to provide her with what she's looking for. AKA: They know they wouldn't stand a chance, and would have better luck with a fat girl.

HHAHAHA, come on. Not even you believe what you just said. You are basically saying that the ONLY reason that fat people find love is because of some feeling of inadequacy from their partner? Certainly, you must be shitting me. Take a look around at the world sometime. There are plenty of fat, disgusting men and women who have found true love with physically beautiful members of the opposite sex. Open your eyes sometime and maybe, just maybe, you'll get a glimpse of reality and begin to realize that the little world you live in isn't so right.

Judging people based on appearance is a SURVIVAL TRAIT, which actually was one of the first parts of the brain to be developed; long before "opinion" was developed. That's why emotions and first reactions often override actual logic, and people are more drawn to others based on their emotional response to seeing that person. IE: I'm DRAWN to an attractive thin woman, it in NO WAY means that I would want a relationship with or, or that her personality would be better matched for me than that of a fat person.

Right, YOU are drawn to an attractive thin woman but that doesn't mean that I am. I mean, if we are all pre-programmed to be attracted to the same exact thing (as far as looks go), then why do we all have different favorite colors? Different favorite cars? Different favorite hairstyles, outfits, flowers, artwork, etc? Or, does your obviously wrong theory only apply to the looks of humans?

Not everybody is the same. Not physically, not mentally, not emotionally, not morally, not educationally, not anything. We are all different. What YOU find to be attractive isn't what necessarily works for the rest of the world.

You're a very emotional person, and you've totally overlooked the purpose of my posts and the purpose of this thread. In no way is my posts geared towards what is more suitable for a relationship, and to discriminate against all overweight women. It's to say that: given two people, side by side, (hell, it could even be the same person, just at different weight), that the average person will, 99% of the time, be more DRAWN and attracted to an average weight person. It's not "being shallow", it's science.

How is that science? What part of my biology dictates that I am definitely going to be more attracted to a 5' 4" 125 lb blonde with blue eyes, big tits and a tight ass as compared to a 5' 8" 200 lb redhead with green eyes, no chest and a lumpy ass? Exactly where is the science in that assumption?

Inner beauty has no relevance in this thread, as were talking essentially about first impressions. But of course you had to come in here to imply that you're somehow different and try and rally some support with these insecure women.

First of all, a lot of women are insecure because no one cares to see them for their inner beauty. Our society makes it seem as if the only way that a woman could possibly be considered beautiful is to have a perfect face, perfect hair, perfect outfits and a perfect body. Obviously, that's not true. Women (and men) can be beautiful for all sorts of reasons. Yet, a lot of heavier women are judged by shallow idiots and are never given a chance to let their beauty shine through. So, inner beauty has plenty of relevance to this thread. Try talking to a woman sometime instead of just staring at their tits and maybe, just maybe, you'll learn something.

Secondly, I am different. For the millionth time, not everybody is the same.

My only explanation to your reaction is simply because you're overweight yourself, and wouldn't like to be judged in the same light. Sorry bud, you're no exception.

My only explanation to my reaction is "I'm right and you're wrong". And, I'm willing to bet that a huge majority of the people who are reading this thread agree with me. You have been talking about "the majority" in this thread, as it pertains to what is attractive or not, as if they are the deciding factor in this debate. Well, if you are going to use "the majority" as the support for your argument, and the huge majority is on my side, then...I win.

I've made my point, if you're unable to process it, that's your problem. I'm not replying in this thread anymore.

That's because you have nothing intelligent to say about this topic. I'd probably be saying the same thing if I were you.

 

[Harold14370]

Wow, the straw men are really getting stuffed on this thread. Nobody is saying guys prefer bony skeleton women. They like them slim and healthy. While they may be willing to look past a fat woman's fat and see her other qualities, they will for the most part, prefer her at a slim, healthy weight. We all know fat women, and we love them dearly. We also wish they were thin.

And of course there is the rare exception (I'm sure there must be, never met one) but how many guys do you know who actually prefer their women to be fat?

 

[San2]

I could sit down and write a long, drawn out response to Ron, who decided to respond to this thread again after all, even though he promised he wouldn't.

But Chef beat me to it. There is really nothing to add. And since Ron seems to be so convinced that he can speak for the rest of the world (just like the guy in the video), I don't think there is anything that can be said to change his mind. Well, you live in your world, buddy, and I live in the real one.

Oh, and just for the record...the woman is called KIRSTEY ALLEY. At least get the name right. And no, I would not choose her 'fat' over 'skinny', I don't like the woman at all, no matter at what weight. She's just not attractive to me.