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Hihi
is there a clinic in Singapore? This program reallly sounds good I might wana give a try. I seem to have reached a plateau somewhat. I can never go below 58kg no matter how hard I try.:( And my height is only 158cm.

You can pm me so that answers doesn't flood this thread. Thanks & have a good week all!:)


There is a clinic in Novena...near that great chicken rice shop :D
 
re: expectations and beauty

Just in response to a topic discussed on this forum awhile back (im a bit behind in the times :)
re: being realistic about goal weights ect....well its kind of on topic kinda....there is an amazing video on the website below....

Dove

go to the site and click on play movie to watch the distorted video about "beauty"...hmm no wonder we have unrealistic expectations of goals....

keep up the rad work guys

I have started taking Chromium at lunch time and find my sugar cravings are totally gone and my desire to deviate is heaps less than it was

cheers
pink
 
Great video Pinksultana!! I sent it to all the girls in my address book and some of the guys - I think they need to see it most of all!!
Thanks!!
 
Hey everybody!

I put my post in the wrong place to start - just had to update my ticker - things are going great (my opinion) - have been too busy to even visit the forum which always is the case this time of year for me - 7 birthdays and the holidays all hit right at this time and no spare time to do anything for the mom (that's me) - but the great thing is that I have been able to stick to the program through it all -

the rest of this message is a copy of what I posted on the other thread - they were asking what are you going to look forward to once you are down -
besides the fitting into smaller clothes - this was my comment:

i don't know if I'm in the right place - it's been a few weeks since I posted and all the names are different - but moved my ticker marker and had to update - it is starting to get exciting! Still have miles to go - but a fifth of the journey has been completed!

I will look forward to riding horses, and amuzement park rides, and anything that has a weight limit or small seat size issue.

I also look forward to being able to squeeze by someone without having to say "Excuse my fat body"

And I look forward to eating anything in a public place without people looking at me like - no wonder you are fat -

And being able to sell girl scout cookies and not have little old men come up and poke me in the tummy while commenting at the top of his lungs - "If you'de lay off the cookies honey you wouldn't look like this!" (Okay - I really don't ever want to have to sell girl scout cookies again - but this really happened to me - )

I also look forward to unexpectedly glimpsing my reflection in mirrors or glass doors or windows and thinking "Oh my gosh! I hardly recognize myself - don't I look great!" Instead of the shock of "Oh my gosh! I am sooo fat!"

Yep - all of the above will be good -

Momma pajama
 
Newlife

Said by newlife (the amazing heroine of this story!!!!)
"...I'm angry with myself for having such weak will...Frustration .... I have been on the program for 1 year, 2 days and I had lost 54 kg. I really wonder how long more it is going to take for me to lose the remaining 7 kg...Discouragement - I'm angry with myself for giving in... Lock myself at home, don't go out and no activity and I'll be able to keep to the program perfectly fine. Maybe I should seriously consider that since my willpower is no longer as strong as it was. The "Just 7 kg more" is no longer working. I hate myself for caving in"

I want to give you a round of applause for
1. losing an astonishing 54kg... OMG..wow..wow. wow..!!!!
2. for being so strong and committed to have stuck with such a strict regime for over a year
3. for having continously resisted the lures of others to do what you knew in your heart was not what YOU NEEDED.

My questions are
*are you feeling "comfortable in your own skin" at this weight?
* if so, does it matter what weight Cohen's have set for you?
* how will you feel if you stop now ?- will you regret not having tried for those last 7kg?
* (forgive me) why are you not in awe of your own amazing achievement????

I feel your should be kind to yourself - the last 7 kg would be so cool!!! but you need to weigh up the cost/benefit rationally... and also with HUGE doses of self congratulations and ability to affirm yourself for this tremendous effort rather than believing you are weak (sooo untrue!!!)

Therese
Started Cohens April and lost (only!!)18kg in 12 weeks ...
still stable at 60-61kg after several months.
 
Yesterday I got a rejection letter in the mail for a job I really wanted. I thought I interviewed well but there was obviously someone more right for it. I went to the supermarket and bought all healthy stuff as I wanted to start preparing for when I receive my program. I was feeling down about the job thing but instead of looking for comfort food I decided to try my rescue remedy spray (bach flower remedies) and it really worked. So my question is whether it is allowed on the program. I will try to remember to ask my consultant when I start but I was just wondering if anyone else has tried this or asked about it? If it’s allowed, it might work for others.

I put mango and yoghurt in my blender this morning and it was yuck. Too aerated I think. Can anyone give me some advice? I’m thinking blend the fruit first then mix the yoghurt through by hand.

I’ll be out of town on Monday when the Melbournites are getting together. I’m really sad about it as I was really looking forward to meeting friends on a similar journey to me. Hopefully I’ll be able to make it to the next one. Have a great day!
 
Pink dolly how low do you want to go? at 158cm you are taller than me and my goal weight is 57kg.

New Life... did you get the article from your consultant called "What are you depriving yourself of?" It was written, from what I understand, by the Paramatta consultant, or perhaps I've got the wrong one.. anyways it's a great article that puts it all into perspective. I find if I drink a hot cuppa some time during the day that helps with the whole elimination process too ;)

7kg to go.. I WISH.... YOU GO GIRL YOU CAN AND WILL DO IT and by NEW YEARS YOU'LL EITHER BE AT GOAL OR ONLY A FORTNIGHT OFF, HOW EXCITING IS THAT.. A NEW YEAR AT GOAL WEIGHT :)

Hi,

Nope, I didn't get the article on "What are you depriving yourself of?' What is it about?

Thank you for being so encouraging. =)
 
Mangoes and Yoghurt

I put mango and yoghurt in my blender this morning and it was yuck. Too aerated I think. Can anyone give me some advice? I’m thinking blend the fruit first then mix the yoghurt through by hand.
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Hi Bright Yellow,

What I usually do with my mango is to cut it into really small pieces and mix it with my yoghurt. I do not blend it but eat it just like that. And it tastes great! Especially, now that Australian mangoes are in season now. In Singapore, I'm buying Aust mangoes every week so that I can enjoy it with my yoghurt. And these mangoes are pretty expensive here! Around S$4 to S$7 for one medium-sized mango! So enjoy the mango and yoghurt to the fullest. Actually, I think the yoghurt could be the problem since it is rather sour and has no sugar. So what I heard from the Cohen consultants is that they put sweeteners with their yoghurt. But I don't do so since I made myself acquire the sour taste after many tries when I started out on this yoghurt initially.

Don't give up experimenting with mango and yoghurt; they are a great combination compared to apples, kiwi or any other types of fruit. =)
 
A day out

Hi all,

I had a cry earlier in the day. It was my 2nd cry eversince I embarked on this program. The first time I cried was when I started out on this program and found it so hard to get used to the system that I cried to myself on my bed. And today was the second time.

I guess the cry was about venting my anger and frustration. I could have said 'no' when I was offered food but I didn't. And I guess the reason was because I was getting really tired of the Cohen food (plus my progress is slowing down) and so, I felt that "a little one wouldn't hurt". I always know that deviating would delay my progress but somehow, when I was offered food, it triggers off my senses and I get tempted which is converted to the desire to consume. And I'm just angry that I had the power to say 'no' but I couldn't do it. And that totally suck.

A year and 3 days is no joke to be on this program as I'm getting tired of packing my food and seeing my friends eat the normal food. Just like today, my friend and I were at Subway and I was like thinking how nice it would be if I could tuck into the subway salad now... I could do it but I didn't because I'm scared that if I do so, this would further delay my weight loss. Now do you see it, I'm getting tired of constantly managing my brain to work in that way.

I told myself that actually all I need to do is to summon up a very very very strong willpower and mindset to lose that last 7 kg. As what one consultant said, you might want to consider to compromise on your social life for the sake of the last 7 kg. It's just the last lap after all. But I know that ultimately it's the very strong willpower that I need to have to bring me through this. I mean, I could stay at home and still deviate right?

Seriously, I'm wondering whether this is the point that I'm hardest hit. I wish it is because if I'm at rock bottom, the only way is to go up and if going up means a more positive turn of events (like starting to lose weight), I will be most happy.

I'm scared to count down the 2 months because I'm afraid that losing that 7kg will not happen in that 2 months. I'm also afraid to set goals because now, I'm really doubtful whether I have the extra amount of willpower to keep my focussed. I think I need GREATER willpower than ever before to lose that remaining stubborn 7kg.

I guess I'm starting to lose confidence in myself but the good news is still, I'm not going to give up yet. I will just keep on trying. It's just another 7 kg more and __________ weeks more (God... don't remind me of it!)
 
Said by newlife (the amazing heroine of this story!!!!)
"...I'm angry with myself for having such weak will...Frustration .... I have been on the program for 1 year, 2 days and I had lost 54 kg. I really wonder how long more it is going to take for me to lose the remaining 7 kg...Discouragement - I'm angry with myself for giving in... Lock myself at home, don't go out and no activity and I'll be able to keep to the program perfectly fine. Maybe I should seriously consider that since my willpower is no longer as strong as it was. The "Just 7 kg more" is no longer working. I hate myself for caving in"

I want to give you a round of applause for
1. losing an astonishing 54kg... OMG..wow..wow. wow..!!!!
2. for being so strong and committed to have stuck with such a strict regime for over a year
3. for having continously resisted the lures of others to do what you knew in your heart was not what YOU NEEDED.

My questions are
*are you feeling "comfortable in your own skin" at this weight?
* if so, does it matter what weight Cohen's have set for you?
* how will you feel if you stop now ?- will you regret not having tried for those last 7kg?
* (forgive me) why are you not in awe of your own amazing achievement????

I feel your should be kind to yourself - the last 7 kg would be so cool!!! but you need to weigh up the cost/benefit rationally... and also with HUGE doses of self congratulations and ability to affirm yourself for this tremendous effort rather than believing you are weak (sooo untrue!!!)

Therese
Started Cohens April and lost (only!!)18kg in 12 weeks ...
still stable at 60-61kg after several months.

Hi Therese,

Thank you for your encouragement. Thank you for reminding me that I lost an amazing 54kg. I was looking at my friend today during dinner. She weighs 43 kg and I was thinking in my head that I lost her and another 11 kg. And I imagined her disappearing infront of me. It's scary to lose more than a person but it's awesome to realize that I have actually shrunk by that much!

My questions are
*are you feeling "comfortable in your own skin" at this weight?

Actually no... I'm still a bit big-sized though people are telling me how skinny I am. I get proud at seeing how slim I have become but I know that if I lose that 7 kg, I would look even better. I think if I lose that 7 kg, I would be at a UK Size 12.

* if so, does it matter what weight Cohen's have set for you?

Cohen set me a target weight of between 60-64kg for my height at 1.68m. But I'm planning to call for my refeeding program at 65kg (if it ever happens!)

* how will you feel if you stop now ?- will you regret not having tried for those last 7kg?

Yes, I will regret because I know that I hate to quit halfway. But if I stop now, the thought of having the freedom to eat is so tempting and liberating.

The thing is, I have tried for a long long time. And it's those thing that you just wished those last 7kg would just "disappear" at a twinkle of an eye. You just wished that the 7kg would be gone as fast as I started on this program.

* (forgive me) why are you not in awe of your own amazing achievement????

I am. I look at the beautiful me and remind myself how good looking I have become. I paste a big note on my fridge door to remind myself that I lost an amazing 54 kg. I proudly tell my friends and colleagues that I lost 54 kg. But I'm just frustrated at the slow progress at the 7kg.

But honestly, now, a series of events have happened that made me doubt how good I am. I hate that feeling when sometimes, the sublimal comments people make affects me and makes me lose that confidence in myself. I'm trying not to let it eat into me that much because I'm indeed a beautiful person.

I think I'm in the pits now. And I'm trying to pull myself out of it. I'm hibernating at home on Thursday and Friday. Hopefully, I will feel much better and stick to the program.

I'm going to bed now. But I will be psyching myself up on my bed that I should give it my all (once again!) and keep on trying. I'm going to talk to myself and psyche myself up. I so badly want to reach that 65 kg and I know that I will be so disappointed at myself if I give up now. I just wish it would be faster, that's all.
 
In regards to the dove video that Pinksultana posted, there is another really moving film about children and their self-esteem in regard to beauty on the site as well. Its definatly worth checking out, very sad.

I have a work christmas party i have to go to this saturday night and im looking for a strategic plan of attack to avoid all non-cohens foods! Im going to have my dinner before i go in, so probably in the car on the way. But the party itself is at a pub and food will be served... i really dont want to deviate excessively (if at all), so any ideas on what i could do? :confused: We havent been given (or told) what foods were being served or anything like that, so i cant even prepare lol!

On another note, thanks to the kind replies in regard to my little vent:p, i bet we all wish we could wake up 5kg lighter in the morning, but its just the matter of sticking to the program and realising that the value of the program is worth so much more than being a little lighter. Its about giving people confidence, ambition, determination, healthy food habits, healthy bodies (and minds!) and becoming comfy in our own skin!
 
excitement building!

ok, ticker update. 2.5 to go until my self determined refeed point. I have decided to evaulate at 72kgs if i order refeed or not. Dr Cohens suggest my weight range is 63-67. That is very light for my build and frame, in my opinion. So i decided quite some time ago that i would make 72 my refeed goal weight and see how i felt when i get there. I think it was also a mental trick in order to keep me going!! :p

so i have 2.5 until then. I'm now feeling a sense of excitement that I havent really allowed myself to feel on this program - I havent been this weight since about year 9!!!! and that is more than 12 years ago........

Who knows, maybe i'll get to 72 and go, hmmmmm no lets do another 2. I;ll keep you posted and everyone keep at it!!!!!!!!! :D

And for those of you who remember *SUNSHINE* today is the first day of her non cohens, non refeed eating!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hi,

Nope, I didn't get the article on "What are you depriving yourself of?' What is it about?

Thank you for being so encouraging. =)

I'll type the Dieting isn't Deprivation out but please excuse typos:


DIETING ISN'T DEPRIVATION:

Don't be a Mary! Mary is a typical dieter. She is 36 years old, married with 3 kids and weighs 90 kilos. SHe's been dieting on and off for ten years; but never loses weigh. Why not? Because she keeps making one big mistake.

Mary thinks that detiing means depriving herself.

So when she's dieting she does nothing but think of all the lovely things she's missing. Things like donuts, cakes, popcorn and chocolate. Every time she goes in to a shop she gazes at them and thinks to herslf:
NO! I mustn't have any of those nice things because I"m on a diet. I must suffer.

So she suffers. And gradually her suffering drives her insane. After three weeks of dieting she is ready to cut her throat. She can take it no logner. So she gives up in disgust and goes on a binge. Result? She regains all the weight she's lost more besides.

Poor old Mary. She'll go on dieting fo the rest of her life but it won't make the slightest difference. In fact, she could diet afor a thousand years and still not lose weight.

As long as she continues to believe that dieting means deprivation, she'll get nowhere.

Are you a Mary? Do you think that dieitg means depriving yoruself? If so, here's some advice. Stop kidding yourself and be honest for a change!

For example, ask yourself this question: What exactly are you depriving yourself of?

1. A fat butt?

2. A pair of fat thighs?

3. Constant tiredness?

4 Indigestion?

5. Heartburn?

Is this what you miss? or are you worried that you'll miss out on the chance to develop a gall-bladder probelm? Diabetes? Etc.

You see we forget about these things dont we? We are so busy worrying about giving up lollies, cream and peanut butter, that we forget about giving up the tiredness and discoformt and all the other nasty things we put up with when we're fat or obese.

That's why we find dieting difficult. We think it means giving up nice things. We think it means suffering. BUT this is nonsense!

The truth is, DIETING MEANS FREEDOM. Freedom from embarrassment, freedom from tiredness and freedom from discomfort. A sensible diet is a papssport to a new life.

So, if you are on a diet, don't see it as something negative. See it as YOUR PRIVATE ESCAPE ROUTE TO A NEW SLIM WORLD. Because that's what it is. FOr example, just sit down for a moment and imagine yourself 10kg lighter than you are now. How do you think you'd feel? 20kg lighter? How would you feel? 30kg lighter? how would you feel? 40kg lighter? Your goal weight?

Would you feel the pain? Would you feel deprived?

Of course not! YOU'D FEEL FANTASTIC!

So girls and guys, it's time to change! Stop worrying about giving up things and START LOOKING FORWARD to bouncing out of bed in the morning and then bouncing all through the day. Because this is exactly what will happen when you get slim.

Poor old Mary. Meanwhile, spare a thought for poor old Mary! you see, she won't change. Sh'es too stubborn. She still thinks that dieting means depriving herself. She still spends her time worrying about giving up things. She never thinks about the good things she can look foward to. So as usual she'll stop dieting in a few weeks time and not long afterwards she'll be even heavier than she is today :(

Don't be a Mary!

End.


Hope this helps :)


The other great article I got was MIND GAMES.. but its six pages long .. .ask your consultant for a copy :)
 
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Hi everyone
Well I'm off to Palm Cove in the morning to a wedding I have been focussed on for the last 8 weeks. Cant wait!! Have to try be good.

I am pretty happy with my weight loss but it has really slowed in my 2nd 4 weeks. Does anyone else have this problem? Have a great weekend everyone and keep on losing!!!:)
 
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions re yoghurt. I tried kiwi fruit and yoghurt today and blaaaah! I think I better stick with mangoes or something sweet, at least until i lose that sweet tooth of mine. I'm not sure i'll ever get used to the sour taste of the plain/natural yoghurt.

I called today to see when I get my program and apparently there has been a hold up. I'm really disappointed but if it's ready tomorrow i may drive over to Geelong to get it. Sooooooo exciting! I must remember to ask them about rescue remedy. I'll let you all know if it's ok!

I have started yoga in the hope of toning from the inside out because I figure it isn't really exertive excercise. Has anyone done yoga whilst on the program? I'd be really interested to know how it went.
 
The best natural yoghurt

I'm not sure i'll ever get used to the sour taste of the plain/natural yoghurt.

Bright Yellow Which yoghurt are you eating? If you haven't tried it, Vaalia Low Fat Natural Yoghurt tastes great :D . It is (in my humble opinion :rolleyes: ) the best tasting natural yoghurt...it doesn't seem to have such in intense tart/sour taste and it is smooth and creamy.
Also, if you are after a great tasting breakfast treat, try cooking up a granny smith apple (sliced thinnly), a cinnamon stick and a few whole cloves in diet sprite until the apple is soft. Let it cool (I usually cook it the night before) and remove the cinnamon stick and cloves. Have this with your yoghurt. If you want to get really fancy, serve it in a tall glass by alternating layers of apple with your yoghurt, sprinkle it with cinnamon and eat it with a long handled teaspoon (see photo). It's almost as good as having an ice-cream sundae for breakfast! ;)
 
Less of me: Yummmmmmmmmm. That sounds fantastic. I'll make sure I get some Vaalia for breaky tomorrow. That recipe sounds divine. Do you usually chop the apple or do any blending? Thanks so much for the advice!
 
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