Bodybuilding has lied to you, and that’s why you’re still skinny

with a high fat diet containing protein you wouldn't lose muscle mass in the long run, at least not if you trained, so in a caloric balance you would not gain fat. I have explained this before.

I understood how you could gain fat while in a caloric balance from the very beginning. in post 22 I said :
if you gain fat at a maintenance level of calories you must be losing calories from muscle at the same rate as you're gaining calories in body fat.

This was my second post in this discussion. At this point, you hadn't really explained anything.

You're saying that if you eat fat you won't use it because you don't use fat when you do weight training in the gym, but you use fat when you're walking around, resting, sleeping, etc. (also, weight training doesn't necessarily burn 0 fat, its just that energy from carbs is a lot higher).

I agree that with a diet that induces muscle loss (or loss of other tissue that contains energy), such as an all fat diet, you could gain fat at a caloric balance. However, if you eat a diet that contains protein and you do some resistance exercise, you won't lose muscle in the long run. And then, at a calorie balance, you won't gain fat since there is no energy left over to store as fat. To prove your hypothesis (the one I disagree with) you need to show that if you do resistance exercise on a high fat diet (that still contains some protein), in caloric balance, you will lose muscle mass in the long run. You need to find a study or conduct one yourself.
 
If that gallon of milk puts you in a caloric surplus it will make you gain weight. If it doesn't, it won't.

1 gal whole milk 2400 cals
1 gal 2% milk 2080 cals
1 gal 1% milk 1760 cals
1 gal skim milk 1280 cals

So if you are burning the amount of calories above or more, plus burning enoug calories to burn off the caloric intake from other foods you consumed you are not going to gain fat.

And I'll leave the politics to folks that ramble on and on pretending to know it all, instead of stopping and thinking, "you know what maybe I blew it on this one."

Don't be upset that you are wrong on this issue. Seriously. No one knows everything.

Remember sometimes it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

Thanks for repeating what has been said
 
with a high fat diet containing protein you wouldn't lose muscle mass in the long run, at least not if you trained, so in a caloric balance you would not gain fat. I have explained this before.

I understood how you could gain fat while in a caloric balance from the very beginning. in post 22 I said :

This was my second post in this discussion. At this point, you hadn't really explained anything.

You're saying that if you eat fat you won't use it because you don't use fat when you do weight training in the gym, but you use fat when you're walking around, resting, sleeping, etc. (also, weight training doesn't necessarily burn 0 fat, its just that energy from carbs is a lot higher).

I agree that with a diet that induces muscle loss (or loss of other tissue that contains energy), such as an all fat diet, you could gain fat at a caloric balance. However, if you eat a diet that contains protein and you do some resistance exercise, you won't lose muscle in the long run. And then, at a calorie balance, you won't gain fat since there is no energy left over to store as fat. To prove your hypothesis (the one I disagree with) you need to show that if you do resistance exercise on a high fat diet (that still contains some protein), in caloric balance, you will lose muscle mass in the long run. You need to find a study or conduct one yourself.

a diet that doesn't supply glucose of protein will use muscle as energy for weight training. lets just leave it at that
 
im that skinny guy in the op post!!! ahhhh. help me stop the habit. i posted a thread here just a moment ago before reading this. its called skinny guy doing p90x needs help.
 
eat big and lift big.. that's all you need to know.. and quit body building.. Strength and power will get you real defined USABLE muscles.. body building will just make you big, puffy and NOT strong. Good luck trying to play football with your friends mr. body builder.
 
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