What seems to be your query? You have never heard of that before or what?
Atkins Opinions
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I have, just never understood it. That's why I am asking you to explain. Since you followed it, you must know.
Wait for the proposed sticky to explain such a dieting-approach. In the meantime feel free to search the internet or this forum.
I can't believe you guys scared the TC like that. Now she's going to be more confused than ever about this whole Atkins thing. She had 100 pounds to lose and it's going to be a long journey for someone like her. Too bad you guys totally ruined her from coming here and getting support from knowledgeable people. Guys like tribal pulling things right out the ***, and on top of that posting youtube videos to further "joke" his way. I don't know if he's finding it funny or whatever, but people come on the this forum to get help and when you post retarded things like that, it confuses people even more. Quit being such a ***.
You're right. I just wanted him to clarify why he believed in the not eating carbs after 4 pm approach. I didn't really have anything to offer to OP, so I shouldn't have really said anything.
It's ok Mark. Some people make newbies out to be scared little rabbits who are going to run off if a couple people disagree on something. In truth they probably appreciate the fact that people are getting into details and lively discussion.
Yeah, I could see it both ways I suppose. A nice in depth convo can really open up doors if the person reads up. Some people just want clear cut ideas on how to get where they want to be. Ehhh, I guess it's safer to assume people want simplicity, but I like to assume people can read into things and take what's valuable and what's crap.
Aww, I already crossed my 1,000 post and didn't notice cause of all the sadness and arguing.
Aww, I already crossed my 1,000 post and didn't notice cause of all the sadness and arguing.
Correct...it IS ' on-topic ' .
The thread title is " Atkins Opinions " and I was asking a question pertaining to
your ' variation ' of the Atkins diet.
Correct....I never heard of it......that's why I asked you about it.
Then again, I don't buy so-called ' diet ' books such as Atkins etc., so that may be one reason why I never heard of it.
Sorry...I just wanted a ' quick answer ' to a simple question....I'm not THAT curious about it to spend time ' researching ' the topic on the internet.
Actually, I mistakenly assumed that since you NEVER have carbs after 4:00 p.m, that you'd be able to explain to me - very quickly - the ' rationale ' as to why you do this in only a couple of short sentences.
Again, my mistake, guess I was wrong.
' Celebs ' on Atkins ?
No comment !
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Could you tell us a bit more of the strategy you employed when you were on your variation on the Atkins diet - i.e. share with us the secrets of your success ?
Specifically, in terms of your meal timing and macronutrient allocation over the course of a typical day while on your variation on the Atkins diet.
For example,......
- what differences did you notice - if any - when you stopped taking carbs after 4:00 p.m. ?
- also, would you also consume fats and proteins at 4:00 p.m along with those 4:00 p.m. carbs ?
- would you consume fats and proteins at various times AFTER 4:00 p.m. ? If so, when - i.e typically at what times and what would your meals consist of ?
- also, would you also consume fats and proteins at 4:00 p.m along with those 4:00 p.m. carbs ?
- would you consume fats and proteins at various times AFTER 4:00 p.m. ? If so, when - i.e typically at what times and what would your meals consist of ?
I don't consider posting Youtube videos and random links as comedy about something an "intelligent" discussion.
Dallen the youtube link was not in this thread so I don't know why you are bringing it up here. You have mentioned it twice in this post so you are contributing to the post being off-topic. Try and take the discussion back to the Atkins diet.
I've heard of the no carbs after 4 p.m. Usually people that do carb cycling tend to do that.
The reason they don't eat carbs at any time other than before/after their workouts and in the mornings is because usually you won't be using up that extra energy that carbs give you late in the night.
Wonder why that dumbass tribal didn't just say that???
The reason they don't eat carbs at any time other than before/after their workouts and in the mornings is because usually you won't be using up that extra energy that carbs give you late in the night.
Wonder why that dumbass tribal didn't just say that???
Sounds good to me.
I asked you a few questions earlier in the day ( see Post # 64 ) pertaining to your version of the Atkins diet.
Look forward to hearing your replies to them.
I don't like to eat carbs late at night, like.... after 9, because after nine I don't really do any movement at all.
I woke up in the middle of the night recently and had a bunch of dried apricots...... I felt much more fat in the morning.
Is this just psychological and/or just water retention, possibly? Just curious, RWS, nothing bad intended.
"Some" consuming regular creatine MONO can retain water, and some do not or not so bad----read on this. This is more swelling of tissue (for various reasons), rather than actual physical tissue gain.
You are taking creatine MONO right now, or am I mistaken? If one consumes "certain things" one has to be aware of all or at least most of the side effects, and when something surfaces, they then can decipher what it is, and thus.....save some anguish.
ROCK ON! Everyone!
Chillen
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Is this just psychological and/or just water retention, possibly? Just curious, RWS, nothing bad intended.
"Some" consuming regular creatine MONO can retain water, and some do not or not so bad----read on this. This is more swelling of tissue (for various reasons), rather than actual physical tissue gain.
You are taking creatine MONO right now, or am I mistaken?
ROCK ON! Everyone!
Chillen
Yeah, I started taking creatine about 6 weeks ago or so.
The creatine water weight came on about four weeks ago or so. That's run it's course, so it couldn't have been anything to do with creatine.
I don't think it was in my head either, the part about me feeling fat (although I know the mind can play tricks)
The water weight retention from the creatine doesn't feel bad at all though Chillen. I look a lot more beefed up. It's about 5 pounds of extra water in my muscles after all.
I know that you didn't mean anything bad by it Chillen, don't worry... you don't need to walk on ice around me! Here's to ya
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O.K...I'll bite
What is it you think'll happen if you eat carbs late a night...say at 10:00 p.m. or 11:00 p.m. ?
And while we're on the topic, is there any difference in terms of consequences ( in your view ) if you take protein and fats at 10:00 p.m. or 11:00 p.m. ?
Yeah, I started taking creatine about 6 weeks ago or so.
The creatine water weight came on about four weeks ago or so. That's run it's course, so it couldn't have been anything to do with creatine.
I don't think it was in my head either, the part about me feeling fat (although I know the mind can play tricks)
The water weight retention from the creatine doesn't feel bad at all though Chillen. I look a lot more beefed up. It's about 5 pounds of extra water in my muscles after all.
I know that you didn't mean anything bad by it Chillen, don't worry... you don't need to walk on ice around me! Here's to ya
The reason for the post was to make you think on possibles within the "totality" of what you are doing, that makes you feel this way in the AM, rather than just listing the "carbs" as the problem giver.
ROCK ON with knowing some of the side effects of Creatine Mono you did yourself well investing time knowing what they were.
Any other possibilities?
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To get an idea of where I am getting my ideas read this article:
TESTOSTERONE NATION - The Carb Cycling Codex
Here are some of the highlights of why I think this way.
For these reasons we can see that consuming carbohydrates is necessary if we want to develop a muscular body. However, insulin also has an ugly side: it can promote fat storage as well as reduce fat mobilization and usage.
A chronically elevated insulin level has a profound effect on the body's capacity to increase body fat. On a related subject, excess carbs can also be stored in fat cells. So always consuming large amounts of carbohydrates can lead to a physique reminiscent of the Michelin Man!
So What Can We Do?
To stimulate maximum muscle growth you need carbs, and a relatively high amount to boot. Without ample calories and carbohydrates, it'll be hard to gain heaps of muscle tissue, even with a high protein intake. However, eating too much too often can also make you fat. Head-splitting, isn't it?
Finally, a third approach championed by guys like Dr. John Berardi started to gain popularity. This dietary approach was based on not consuming many carbs and fats togetherand on consuming carbs mainly during periods of increased insulin sensitivity (in the morning and post-workout). So you basically had three meals with carbs and three meals without them every day.
This approach is darn near perfect for gaining mass with minimal fat accumulation. However, I found that it could still be improved to get the best body composition results.
Alright, so if I were to try to answer your questions based off all the stuff i've read i'd say that if we eat meals high in carbs (pasta, biscuits, etc.) around 10:00 to 11:00 PM our body will take what it can for energy and then store the rest as fat.
Your second question...
I don't think we should ever eat very large portions right before bedtime, whether it be carbs, protein, or fats... because we use hardly any calories just sleeping.
If you eat small portions of protein and fats before bedtime it helps with catabolism, so you should.
I always have peanut butter and cottage cheese before bed.
So Wrangell, use your excellent writing skills to make me feel stupid now
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