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It was a good day, I exercised, ate well and feel good. Got in a 7.5 km walk and a workout.
That is an interesting new phase to be coming into Rob. Especially since you've been working within such a big calorie deficit for so long. Might be worth it to start bringing the calories back up to what would be closer to a maintenance amount for you so it's not such a huge leap all at once?
Thanks Liza, to be honest with you I am kind of fearful that if I stop losing weight now I may have trouble restarting. Maybe that's irrational, but if its working for now I kind of fear changing things, before I get down to where I want to be.
Interesting and maybe just as challenging as losing weight - but with the much less glamorous reward of things mostly staying as they are. If you do need tangible goals to keep going fitness-related ones seem to be quite motivating for you
I think you are right LaMa, the next phase will be just as challenging, if not more so, but without some of the positive reinforcements. I know it will take some figuring out.
Don’t be sad because it’s over, be glad because it happened!
You are right of course Emily, and I was just feeling a bit sad last night, it has passed. Maintenance will be a new peak, but a very different kind.
from flying, you can realize just how much your vision/ brain interface can be deceiving. heading toward a mountain range, i don't think i ever had a passenger who didn't make the comment that they thought i was flying too low even though i was typically a few thousand feet above the peaks.
That is right, perspective can be hard. I know I have studied that mountain from all angles I could from down here, and on Google Earth, but it sure looked different when I got there. Hey Flyer, you are Mr. Maintenance here, when I get there I am sure I'll be looking to you for advice. Its always welcome.
If and when you need to start adding calories I would be focusing on the salad and fruit or adding in some extra protein. For example a hard boiled egg or extra piece of turkey, or 20g of cheese . Extra fruit with your breakfast. You seem to manage well without treat foods ( not like me ) and that's where danger lies.
I have not yet been let into the magic world of target at SW so I don't really know how the plans change for maintenance but I think things like an extra slice of bread or extra syns allowed . If I ever get there I will let you know . :rotflmao:
Thanks Petal, good advice as always. I am sure you will get to the SW maintenance and it won't take long. Looking forward to hearing what you learn.
I wonder how long it will be before you can start at the wildlife sanctuary. You will be able to do different things now, Rob & do most things a lot easier.
I like Petal's suggestions to gradually add a little bit more of the healthy stuff. I know that would have done the trick with me. I think maintenance is a huge challenge & I also have a feeling you will approach it with the same science you have approached weight-loss. I hope you stick around & let everyone else learn how to do it as I'm sure you will be successful.
I have been wondering about the bird refuge also. It is a federal thing and they are being more conservative about reopening than the State of Utah, so it may still be a while. I will send an email and see if I can find anything out. I do plan to stick around, more to continue to get support in maintenance, but I will help if I can. I know you have spoken about the difficulties you had in transitioning to maintenance, hearing more about your experience would be helpful.

Thanks Sadie, and I am certainly much more glad than sad, just a little apprehensive about what comes next.
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Thanks Liza, to be honest with you I am kind of fearful that if I stop losing weight now I may have trouble restarting. Maybe that's irrational, but if its working for now I kind of fear changing things, before I get down to where I want to be.
I think I can understand that. I also think it'll be an easier transition if you start adding 100 or 200 kcal/day maybe once a month to see what it does to your wellbeing and weightloss. As of yet you're still losing quite quickly, especially for someone who's been at it for so long, and maybe a slightly slower loss could get you used to the idea of maintenance. I struggle with maintenance as well though, so my words aren't gospel.
 
Down 3 lbs to 182. Another big loss week. I am happy to be down, I know its weight I need to lose, but like I have said it seems less exciting to me now. I still want to lose a little more so its good.
I think I can understand that. I also think it'll be an easier transition if you start adding 100 or 200 kcal/day maybe once a month to see what it does to your wellbeing and weightloss. As of yet you're still losing quite quickly, especially for someone who's been at it for so long, and maybe a slightly slower loss could get you used to the idea of maintenance. I struggle with maintenance as well though, so my words aren't gospel.
Hey LaMa, thanks, your words may not be gospel, but I value them. You are a smart and supportive friend. I know you are right, I did have one day last week over 1,300 calories and have been thinking about raising my target to that. It's just that my eating has become a fairly rigid habit, so that shift will take a bit of pushing.
 
It's rely all about balance too. I think you should be able to add in a little extra if you are having say a BBQ or a birthday. So that's a good idea of LaMa's to maybe one day a month or so to go over on your calories . I listen to my SW podcast a lot and one thing I have learned from those that have reached target that the day it happens can often be a disappointment. They often say they think they will be happier , have a brilliant life from that day on etc but the reality is nothing much changes . Now I have written that I'm not sure what my point is . Lol featherhead I am. i think it was to concur really with a LaMa that a little flexing at this point might be good .
 
It's just that my eating has become a fairly rigid habit, so that shift will take a bit of pushing.
Yes,exactly, that rigidity can really be hard to break--that's why i was thinking of an easing upward. But we all have to know what works best for us. Maybe for now it's just something you will play around with in your mind and get used to the idea of shifting into maintenance. Having dealt with an anxiety disorder for so many years i get it how it can be hard to break patterns and we need to often move slowly so we continue to feel safe with whatever issue we are dealing with. I also like LaMa's idea of maybe just introducing a few days here and there of eating a little extra.
You are doing great Rob. I do hope to hear about a few more days of relaxed eating coming up :)
 
I think a gradual increase to say maybe 1300 a day every day for a month would keep you feeling in control. Then you could reassess & maybe add 100 more or just stay there for another month.
When I got to my happy weight I had been on a very strict diet & had to find a new way. Yours can just be tweaked & adjusted as you go. I know that you feel that you are only moments away from a binge, but keeping control, whilst listening to your body when it tells you that you actually need nutrition will be more important as you keep becoming more active. I have confidence that you can do it, Rob.
 
It was a good day, I ate well, exercised and feel good tonight. I did a 10 km walk and a workout. Tomorrow it is supposed to be raining so maybe no walk.
Funny how eating habits can be hard to break in both directions, isn´t it?
Yes, but I have not often tried in this direction. Eating more has always come quite easy to me, LOL!
one thing I have learned from those that have reached target that the day it happens can often be a disappointment.
I think that is a really good point, the world doesn't change so much on that day. In fact I think most of the good things happen whilst you are losing the weight. And in my case when I was heavier and losing I thought I could see where I was heading, but now its not so clear. Maybe I can make an analogy to my mountain climbing adventure, when I was looking up from home I thought sure I knew where I wanted to go, but when I got close it was a bit confusing, the top was not so clear. Now I think I am featherheading a bit, LOL.
Maybe for now it's just something you will play around with in your mind and get used to the idea of shifting into maintenance.
Thanks Liza, good advice. Maybe that is what I am doing already.
I think a gradual increase to say maybe 1300 a day every day for a month would keep you feeling in control.
That probably does make sense, maybe I will start in June. One problem I think I probably have is a slowed metabolism, I know LaMa and others have said that. I have been doing some research and given my long term low cal diet it is pretty likely. I don't feel that way, but it has probably happened. And it seems that it can take a while for the body to adapt to eating more and increase metabolism back to normal. I read that is one reason so many people regain weight quickly after a diet, their eating goes up faster than their metabolism. I don't know the answer to that one, but it is probably the slow transition to more calorie thing.
 

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Given how much weight you're still losing despite eating as much as or more than a couple months ago it doesn't look like your metabolism is a problem. And adding 100 kcal/day is definitely not suddenly going to change that. Courage, my friend.
 
Yes I say your metabolism is really good . Your weight loss is still pretty super fast .
you have said a few times now you would like a bigger snack on the b/p thread . Maybe it’s time to have it and see how you get on .
 
Yes the thing to keep in mind that a normal calorie amount for a guy around your age would be around 2200-2400 calories...so moving slowly up on your calorie intake rather than waiting until you want to maintain the weight and making the sudden leap at that point, might be easier on your body and mind of moving into that mode of being in a more gradual way.
 
It was a good day, I ate well, exercised and feel good tonight.

I have been listening to y'all, my forum friends and today I upped my calories to 1,350. May try to stay a bit above 1,300 for a while. I just did it by eating a little more of the same things, no big change. Will see how it goes. Thanks, I do appreciate the input and listen more than it sometimes seems.
Given how much weight you're still losing despite eating as much as or more than a couple months ago it doesn't look like your metabolism is a problem. And adding 100 kcal/day is definitely not suddenly going to change that. Courage, my friend.
Thanks LaMa, I really appreciate your support, and value your opinions. I know this will not lead to weight gain, and maybe not to stopping the loss, we will see.
Yes I say your metabolism is really good . Your weight loss is still pretty super fast .
you have said a few times now you would like a bigger snack on the b/p thread . Maybe it’s time to have it and see how you get on .
Same to you Petal, you have long been a good friend here, I appreciate it. And I will see how I get on.
Yes the thing to keep in mind that a normal calorie amount for a guy around your age would be around 2200-2400 calories...
That may be too high, but I know its a lot more than 1,300, so I should be ok.
I think we all agree, Rob
Thank you Cate, you have really been a great friend here also. Your advice has always been good.
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It seems I can't get all of my food diary to post, but the totals are there.
 
I upped my calories to 1,350. May try to stay a bit above 1,300 for a while. I just did it by eating a little more of the same things, no big change.
Oh excellent! You were eating quite healthily so just having a little more of everything sounds like a solid plan.
 
I'm glad that you have decided to up your calories, Rob. You do eat really healthily & are so much more active. Your body will thank you.
 
Day 2 above 1,300 calories and I think my eating was fine. I added an apple to my evening snack to push myself into the 1300s and it was fine. Bad news is I did no exercise today. The weather was not amenable to walking and to be honest I just got lazy. The first unplanned day without exercise in a couple of months. Its probably fine, if I get back to it tomorrow.

Thanks LaMa, Cate, and Petal, y'all are right and so far so good.
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Good to hear about the increase in calories Rob :)
 
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