Workout

Thanks again. Going to take all of that into account. I've been haphazardly lifting the past two weeks. You probably saved me from a pull or strain with your information.

The imbalances would come first from a poorly structured program. Then the aches and pains, worsened performance, and potential injuries.

Another question though.

If I were to find a weight for lifting that I'm comfortable with, would it be better to add more sets to that weight later on, or add more weight and keep the sets the same?
Or would it be beneficial to do, for example, 3x8 bench at 100 one week, then next week add another set in if I'm comfortable with it, then the week after that add another 10 pounds and go back to the 3x8?

I'd stick with the set and rep protocols. That means the answer to your question would be to add weight, as I outlined in my last post.

In general, it's easier/better to add 5-10 lbs to a lift than to add 8 more reps (a whole other set).
 
So, I finished the first workout set you suggested. I did all the dumbbell exercises at 20lbs, and the bench at 60lbs. I worked through all the motions slow and fairly methodical, and it was pretty easy. Although I was working with a bit less weight than I have the previous weeks... and I had done a majority of these lifts as well. I've never done the plank before, and man... that is rough. I lasted probably 30 seconds the first time and only about 20 the second.

Still, its good to know that, with your help, I'm doing things correctly without spending money on a gym membership.

I'll let you know how the next workout goes. I figure it'll be a bit more challenging, because I've never done the side bends, pullovers, or french press.
 
Be careful you're gauging your resistance training bouts properly. I say this b/c of how you say, "it was easy."

A lot of people get confused into thinking they need to feel 'the burn' or they need to be out of breath. That's not the case.
 
Hi!
I've read the stickied threads, I've asked around :D ;) and decide that it's about time to start weight treining.
The problem is I've never lifted before, so I would like to start with something simple and go from there.

I like the (A,B,A) (B,A,B) idea, and came up with these sets of exercises ( 3 sets, 15-20 reps)

A
Front squats
push - ups
Bulgarian squats
AB crunches
Glute bridges
chest raises

B
step-ups
Russian twists
Sumo squats
Tricep dips
Lunges
Vertical curls

I've ordered a set of adjustable DB's, but I wuld like to start out with my own body weight - just to keep it safe... and add weights later on.

Could You tell me what You think of it?
Would You consider this as full-body workout?
Does this training hit all of my major muscle groups?
Won't it create any imbalances?

thanks in advance :)
 
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Hi!
I've read the stickied threads, I've asked around :D ;) and decide that it's about time to start weight treining.
The problem is I've never lifted before, so I would like to start with something simple and go from there.

I like the (A,B,A) (B,A,B) idea, and come up with these sets of exercises ( 3 sets, 15-20 reps)

I like this set up for the beginner, so that's good. What are your stats; male/female, height, weight?

A
Front squats
push - ups
Bulgarian squats
AB crunches
Glute bridges
chest raises

I'd sub out chest raises and put in some sort of pulling movement to hit your lats and upper back. Right now you have a lot of stuff hitting the lower back but not much of anything hitting the upper.

I'd also switch out Bulgarians for Romanian Deadlifts, starting very lightly.

I'd also order them like this:

Front Squats (how are you planning on doing these?)
Romanians (you can start with no weight and focus completely on form then add slowly)
Pushups
Some sort of row depending on what you have available... DBs will do.
Glute Bridges
Abs

B
step-ups
Russian twists
Sumo squats
Tricep dips
Lunges
Vertical curls

Same thing here, I'd switch out lunges for some sort of row.

I've ordered a set of adjustable DB's, but I wuld like to start out with my own body weight - just to keep it safe... and add weights later on.

I think that's an excellent idea. Most start way to aggressively and burn themselves out before they realize any real benefit from this sort of training. Progress is key. Not how much you're lifting your first workout!

Would You consider this as full-body workout?

Yes.
 
I like this set up for the beginner, so that's good. What are your stats; male/female, height, weight?
Oh sorry – female, 5’4” , 140lbs, and I’m definitely the beginner :)

I'd sub out chest raises and put in some sort of pulling movement to hit your lats and upper back. Right now you have a lot of stuff hitting the lower back but not much of anything hitting the upper.
Thanks, I haven't noticed that!
I'd also switch out Bulgarians for Romanian Deadlifts, starting very lightly.
I've used there the exercises which I know, so I’ll have to check out your suggestions on You Tube. Can I do Romanians
I want to workout at home and I’ve got (for now) only DB’s (~2x20lbs) available.
I'd also order them like this:

Front Squats (how are you planning on doing these?)
Romanians (you can start with no weight and focus completely on form then add slowly)
Pushups
Some sort of row depending on what you have available... DBs will do.
Glute Bridges
Abs
Could You also explain to me why order is so important? If it’s too complicated for the beginner to understand, then never mind ;)

Front Squats (how are you planning on doing these?)
, is it ok?

I'd switch out lunges for some sort of row.
I'll do that ;)

THANKS A LOT, Steve !!
 
Oh sorry – female, 5’4” , 140lbs, and I’m definitely the beginner :)

Gotcha... so you don't have *too much* weight to lose. Strength training is definitely your best bet right now. Too many women your size think running until they're blue in the face is the best choice and it simply isn't. Not if you're going for that lean look.

I've used there the exercises which I know, so I’ll have to check out your suggestions on You Tube. Can I do Romanians

Yup, you certainly can.

It's not a difficult exercise. However, you have to make sure form is proper. Rounding your lower back is a no-no.

I'd start with no weight for a week or two just so you can get comfortable with the movement and muscles involved.

You want to start with a tight upper back and a high chest. You can mentally cue yourself for these things to happen by thinking, "pull my shoulder blades together" for the tight upper back and "stick my chest out" for the high chest.

When you stick your chest out and high, it should naturally tighten your lumbar (lower) back. That slightly arched lower back MUST be maintained throughout the entire movement.

That's how you set yourself up to start.

From there, it's simply a matter of maintaining that position while you lower your torso.

But here's another important thing to remember. It's not as simple as just bending over at the waist. The movement is really at the hips. You want to move as if you were trying to stick your booty against an imaginary wall that's a foot behind you. This means you'll have to flex at the hips. When you do this, your torso will naturally descend towards the ground.

You want to lower yourself until you can no longer maintain the tightness from above.

It's a wordy description, so let me know if you have any questions.

I want to workout at home and I’ve got (for now) only DB’s (~2x20lbs) available.

That's fine. Resistance is resistance, you can apply it anywhere. It doesn't always have to come by way of a gym.

That said though, progress is very important if a workout is going to be effective. You can progress for a while with your stationary DBs. They're stationary in that you can't increase or reduce the weight.

You can progress by moving from bilateral to unilateral work; think one leg Romanians to single leg Romanians, for example.

But eventually, the fact remains that you'll have to increase the load lifted as your body adapts to the stress and you tap out all the progress you can do without adding weight. For your next purchase, I recommend buying something more adjustable/customizable. You can even find adjustable DBs.

Could You also explain to me why order is so important? If it’s too complicated for the beginner to understand, then never mind ;)

Nothing is written in stone. But in general, especially for a beginner, I like to order exercises from hardest to easiest. This way the trainee is fresh for the most difficult tasks. I also like to pair exercises in antagonistic fashion... meaning I like to pair opposing muscle groups.

Legs are generally the hardest movements, then your basic pushing and pulling upper body movements, then isolation movements for your core and arms.

So I'll position leg exercises first and the first one will be quad dominant, like squats or lunges, and the second one will be posterior chain dominant, like romanians or glute bridges.

Then I'll throw in some upper body work. I'll pair a pushing with a pulling. So the first one might be pushups and the second one might be DB rows.

You get the idea I hope.

It's certainly not the *only* way to program... just one. One that I like in the context of this situation. It orders based on difficulty and helps balance out the body so imbalances don't form.

, is it ok?

Yes.

I'd slow down the descent a bit though.
 
OMG - Steve ! THANK YOU SO MAUCH FOR THIS ANSWER !!! I didn't expect that MUCH!

I've tried Romanians (following Your description) and I think I've got it!!

You can progress by moving from bilateral to unilateral work; think one leg Romanians to single leg Romanians, for example.
That's a great tip!
But eventually, the fact remains that you'll have to increase the load lifted as your body adapts to the stress and you tap out all the progress you can do without adding weight. For your next purchase, I recommend buying something more adjustable/customizable. You can even find adjustable DBs.
I've got adjustable DB's (4x2.2lbs, 4x3.3lbs, 4x4.4lbs) so at the heaviest it's a set of 2x20lbs. I thought that I'll purchase more lbs as I go along ... It's just something to start with, You know... ;)

But in general, especially for a beginner, I like to order exercises from hardest to easiest. This way the trainee is fresh for the most difficult tasks. I also like to pair exercises in antagonistic fashion... meaning I like to pair opposing muscle groups.
Thanks - I just wanted to understand the pattern :)

And I've got one more question (I promise it's the last one !!) How long do You think (approximately) before I would have to move on to something more challenging then my A,B set? 2-3 months? Do You think that ‘plan for intermediate’ can also be done at home?


PS
Too many women your size think running until they're blue in the face is the best choice and it simply isn't. Not if you're going for that lean look.
I won't mention then, what I've been doing untill now :smilielol5:
 
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OMG - Steve ! THANK YOU SO MAUCH FOR THIS ANSWER !!! I didn't expect that MUCH!

You're quite welcome. :)

I've tried Romanians (following Your description) and I think I've got it!!

Most people can get it with that explanation... glad to hear. Just remember, push that butt back.

Also, when raising your torso back up in the upward phase of the movement, I forgot to mention that it isn't a matter of simply rising up. You want to be thinking, "keep butt tight and drive my pelvis towards the front. This will help make sure the muscles that are supposed to be working, actually are.

I've got adjustable DB's (4x2.2lbs, 4x3.3lbs, 4x4.4lbs) so at the heaviest it's a set of 2x20lbs. I thought that I'll purchase more lbs as I go along ... It's just something to start with, You know... ;)

Perfect.

And I've got one more question (I promise it's the last one !!) How long do You think (approximately) before I would have to move on to something more challenging then my A,B set? 2-3 months? Do You think that ‘plan for intermediate’ can also be done at home?

Not for a long while.

You are dieting your extra fat off right now. In order for that fat to come off, you must be in a caloric deficit, right? Well, weight training is in place primarily to preserve the muscle mass you have. This doesn't take too much, in so that this 'split' would most likely work all the way up to the point you want to be at physique-wise.

Of course you aren't married to it either, you can switch things up if you want to.

But don't ever fee you need to switch your routine just for the sake of switching. This program is aligned for your current goals, assuming you work on progressing the weights, and until your goals change or you get bored, there's no need to change things.
 
Steve,

I started the gym last week. The first day I had a personnel trainer but can't afford that all the time. He gave me a run through of what I should do it is called circuit training. I warm up on treadmill then I do forward rows with my arms and then I do backward rows with my arms on the machines i guess thats what they are called.My next task is curls with the dumb bells then from there I do squats on the machine then from there I do leg extensions. The last thing I do is more treadmill.I don't know if that is a good work out to lose weight. I am aiming to lose weight in my belly and thighs.
 
Steve,

I started the gym last week. The first day I had a personnel trainer but can't afford that all the time. He gave me a run through of what I should do it is called circuit training. I warm up on treadmill then I do forward rows with my arms and then I do backward rows with my arms on the machines i guess thats what they are called.My next task is curls with the dumb bells then from there I do squats on the machine then from there I do leg extensions. The last thing I do is more treadmill.I don't know if that is a good work out to lose weight. I am aiming to lose weight in my belly and thighs.

What are your current stats? Height, age, weight, sex?
 
My current weight is 146.5 I am 5ft 2inches 28yrs old and female. I just need someone to help me in the right direction.
 
My current weight is 146.5 I am 5ft 2inches 28yrs old and female. I just need someone to help me in the right direction.

I'm heading out right now for an all day conference. If I don't get back to you, please bump this thread so I see it. I'll try to remember to reply later today if I get the chance but if I don't that doesn't mean I don't want to help!
 
My current weight is 146.5 I am 5ft 2inches 28yrs old and female. I just need someone to help me in the right direction.

Thanks. :)

Steve,

I started the gym last week. The first day I had a personnel trainer but can't afford that all the time.

How much does a trainer cost at your gym. Simply curious.

He gave me a run through of what I should do it is called circuit training. I warm up on treadmill then I do forward rows with my arms and then I do backward rows with my arms on the machines i guess thats what they are called.My next task is curls with the dumb bells then from there I do squats on the machine then from there I do leg extensions. The last thing I do is more treadmill.

I hate when trainers show a bunch of machine exercises. Machines are easy to understand and in most cases, a trainer who only teaches people how to use machines is either a) lazy or b) incompetent.

Some machine work is fine but free weights are in most all cases optimal over machines.

Beyond this, there are a few general thoughts relative to what he had you do:

1) Not enough free weights from above

2) Did he explain how often you should be doing this routine or if this is the routine you should do each time that you train?

3) Not enough posterior chain (back, glutes and hamstrings) as well as core work.

I don't know if that is a good work out to lose weight. I am aiming to lose weight in my belly and thighs.

Two general thoughts relative to the above:

1) Weight training isn't really good for weight loss, at least not in this context. Diet and cardio take care of providing the caloric expenditure/deficit required to trigger fat loss, right? Weight training, especially given your stats (i.e., you don't have a lot of weight to lose), serves more the function of 'persuading' where the weight comes from.... fat instead of muscle.

Put differently, the caloric deficit coming from diet and cardio triggers weight loss. Weight training in this context makes sure the weight lost is fat, not muscle.

Losing weight is easy.

Losing weight and looking good at the end is a little more complex... hence the importance of weight training.

2) Unfortunately you can't pick and choose where you lose fat from. Your belly and thighs are your problem spots. Remain consistent and eventually you'll tap into those stores.
 
Steve is is $65 for one session which is a hour long. The more sessions you buy the cheaper it is. I am guessing he was going to have me do that routine three times a week but I could be wrong. So for weight lose I should stick to cardio as in doing the treadmill and the bike. I have to be careful on doing the bike it bothers my left knee feels like it wants to give out. I just want some help on losing the little bit of weight that I can to lose. I usually go to the gym 5 days a week. So any advice would be really helpful.
 
It's not that you should stick with cardio only. A balanced approach is best.

2-3 sessions of weight training per week

3-4 sessions of cardio per week

And most importantly while trying to lose the fat is your diet. Adequate protein, good fats, fruits and veggies.

Your weight training best be full body sessions where you train all the major muscle groups using exercises that target multiple muscles and joints.

Have you read the stickie threads of this forum, beyond this one? I highly suggest reading the 'words of wisdom' thread.
 
Hi Steve, I would like your comments on my exercise routine. I am female and 5 ft 6 I weigh 226 pounds, having lost 33 pounds over the last 8 months. I hope to weigh 200 pounds by Christmas 2008 and 140 pounds by Christmas 2009. I have recently plateaued, and think that I need to work out a new diet and exercise program. I have spoken to a trainer at my gym. We have worked out a regimen that I hope to do 3-4 times a week. My cardio will be swimming or cycling (using a proper bike, not a stationary one). I will be using dumb bells and a bench, there are nautilus machines available, but I find that as I have some long term back and neck problems, that they restrict my movement and lead me to using my good side more than my injury prone side. The exercises he suggested are, chest presses, shoulder presses, Flys, overhead pulls, triceps extensions and single arm rows for the top half. For my lower half, he has suggested sit ups on a swiss ball, squats with a swiss ball against a wall with weights and calf raises on a step with weights. I will warm up with some salutes to the sun(yoga exercises). My instructor suggests to start off with 10 reps x2, increasing it to x4 before increasing weight. My aims are to loose maximum fat whilst maintaining my muscle and keep/increase my bone density as I am 43 years old and hope to stave off osteoporosis in my menopausal years(hopefully some years ahead). Do you think that this is a sensible training regimen given my aims. Also, I would appreciate any comments about diet to help me accomplish my aims. I am setting my self a limit of 1600-1700 cals a day, based on my BMR and exercise. Thank you in advance.
 
Hi Steve, I would like your comments on my exercise routine. I am female and 5 ft 6 I weigh 226 pounds, having lost 33 pounds over the last 8 months. I hope to weigh 200 pounds by Christmas 2008 and 140 pounds by Christmas 2009. I have recently plateaued, and think that I need to work out a new diet and exercise program.

I'm replying as I read along, which is a bad habit of mine so bear with me. :p

First, congrats on the weight loss.

Second, I'd bet your plateau has more to do with your diet than your exercise program, but let's see.

I have spoken to a trainer at my gym. We have worked out a regimen that I hope to do 3-4 times a week. My cardio will be swimming or cycling (using a proper bike, not a stationary one). I will be using dumb bells and a bench, there are nautilus machines available, but I find that as I have some long term back and neck problems, that they restrict my movement and lead me to using my good side more than my injury prone side. The exercises he suggested are, chest presses, shoulder presses, Flys, overhead pulls, triceps extensions and single arm rows for the top half. For my lower half, he has suggested sit ups on a swiss ball, squats with a swiss ball against a wall with weights and calf raises on a step with weights. I will warm up with some salutes to the sun(yoga exercises). My instructor suggests to start off with 10 reps x2, increasing it to x4 before increasing weight. My aims are to loose maximum fat whilst maintaining my muscle and keep/increase my bone density as I am 43 years old and hope to stave off osteoporosis in my menopausal years(hopefully some years ahead). Do you think that this is a sensible training regimen given my aims.

So couple of things:

1. Are you doing cardio and strength training in the same session?

2. So you plan on doing the following 3-4 times per week, right? I know you said you'll start with 2 sets of 10 but you'll eventually work your way to 4 sets of 10.....

Chest Press 4x10
Shoulder Press 4x10
Flys 4x10
Overhead Pulls 4x10
Tricep Extensions 4x10
DB Rows 4x10
Sit ups 4x10
Squats with a swiss ball 4x10
Calf raises 4x10

Geez, I got tired typing all that... can't imagine doing it all 4 times per week!

First thing I notice, if I'm understanding it all correctly, is it's a ton of volume.

Second things, it's not balanced. Too much pressing and not enough pulling in the upper, squats but nothing for your glutes and hamstrings, and not enough variety for your core.

Third, why squats with the swiss ball.... is there a particular reason?

Fourth, if I have it all correctly, needless to say I'd be setting things up a bit differently.

Also, I would appreciate any comments about diet to help me accomplish my aims.

This is where you should focus most of your attention.

I am setting my self a limit of 1600-1700 cals a day, based on my BMR and exercise. Thank you in advance.

Seems a bit low but not overly. Is this something you truly believe you can stick with on a consistent basis? Setting up something too rigid that is going to lead to more inconsistencies and binges isn't going to get you anywhere. If this isn't the case, then okay.

I'm concerned that you're giving exercise preferential attention over diet since you spoke a lot more about the former rather than the latter in this post. Make sure this isn't the case.

And what sort of foods does your 1700 calories comprise?

Lastly, how are you tracking your nutrition?
 
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