which style of karate

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Benny

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hi

i looking forward to train in some style of karate this summer

problems is: dont know which style of karate is best for me :confused:

Im looking for something that pure self defence and less athletic in nature
also one which is powerfull in form.

somedays back i spoke to an instructor who teaches budokan or budokai karate
could nt find any listing or description on the internet.
does anybody know about it

what is 'budokan' anyway
 
Look for American Kenpo or Kyokushin

Why karate?
 
being a self styled martial artist i lack in certain areas of fighting.

my problem areas are grappling, ground fighting, submission style fighting and lack of contact experience

I'm technically good at stand up fighting-kick boxing and close quarter combat

hope to fill in the training gaps by actually training in the martial arts

i think karate should be a good start

kyokushin karate is good option but is too far from my location
not feasible as of now
 
you're not gonna get much ground fighting, grappling, or submission in karate. Like karky said, if you want that, you really need to try ju-jitsu.
 
Im not taking up karate as a means to learn ground fighting

it just to give me a start

actually i am right now in my last year of college. and thats pretty much the priority now

so i cant afford to spend time travelling around everyday to a good school

Karate is easily accesible and there is whole variety of classes around my house and college

next year i can think about the grappling arts since ill have plenty of time on hand

any ways has anybody heard about budokai or budokan karate
how about these styles
shorin ryu
shotokan
goju ryu
****o ryu

not that i prefer karate but just to give it a shot
 
It depends on what you mean by self defense. If you want to learn to fight I would take an art based mainly around fighting such as american Karate, Kickboxing, Boxing or jujitsu. Though for street combat I would probably not neccesarily go for Brazillian jutjisu. Ask your individual instructor what scenerios he focuses on. For instance, I took a great karate class where the main focus was point tournaments. I was told to point my nose the the opponents fist to get extra points. Try that one on the streets.

If you want street surviaval most schools have special courses in learning to avoid and survive a dangerous situation without ever building your reflexes or your strength level.

Karate varies tremendously from school to school and teacher to teacher much more than it does from style to style. Yup, that's right girlfreind I went there. I said it. All karate stlyes look pretty much the same with few exceptions. Call me a karate biggot but I can't tell one apart from another and I look pretty hard.

Whatever your goals are the best way to pick a school is to go around your town and carefully interveiw the teachers their students. look for places where the advanced students are performing the way you want to perform (don't be harsh on the new students- they are just lerning)
And do not limit yourself to karate. Most Karate schools put huuuge emphasis on kata or long memorized sequence of movements- a practice that has come under extreme scutiny in the last decade as most professional fighters do not use them. Don't get me wrong, I love Karate. I love the way it looks and the way it feels. Find a teacher that is right for you
 
kata's do suck
n ive learned to hate them :eek:

however not being prejudiced karate does contain some techniques that could supplement my current training.
improvisation is always the key in any martial art
i learned to modify the arts to make it more effective combining the strength of other martial arts
thats one reason i have never regretted being self styled :cool:

Im not trying to blow my horn
but i long seen people teach techniques that in my opinion dont really seem effective in my opinion.
And to go ahead you just have to learn the techniques just for the sake of it
 
You don't just learn techniques, you learn the principle, the philosophy, how the power is generated, and the physics...or atleast you should. I'm not one to kiss the collective ass of martial arts, but this is the way you should be learning. You should keep this in mind, but don't use it as the only qualifying component. Effectiveness is still a major part in it, and will help you differentiate between instructors that don't know ****. However, remember that you are going to prefer other techniques over others. That is a fact. It's human nature...just don't convince yourself they are better than the other when in fact they are the same.
 
well i guess you really are right :)

but hey!!
im beginning to just that

here my journey begins
ill keep posting on the progress

thanx everybody ;)
 
Someone said that karate can differ from school to school and from teacher to teacher. This is very true. I dont know where you are located Benny, but I take Shaolin Kenpo Karate. We practice pretty much everything. We do forms, striking, kicking, grappling and felling. We practice techniques against strikes, weapons such as knives and clubs, and we also practice techniques to use against different kinds of grabs. We spar as well. We learn the 5 Shaolin animals and certain techniques and characteristics of them. Snake, for example, would be experienced in ground fighting. As you progress through the ranks, you start to learn to improvise, to be alert and have enough knowledge to get out of any situation, not just the scripted techniques.

I hope this is helpful. I go to Seacoast Martial Arts Centers and my Sensei's are Kevin and Lisa Crossan. :)
 
kenpocrane said:
We practice pretty much everything. We do forms, striking, kicking, grappling and felling. We practice techniques against strikes, weapons such as knives and clubs, and we also practice techniques to use against different kinds of grabs. We spar as well. We learn the 5 Shaolin animals and certain techniques and characteristics of them. Snake, for example, would be experienced in ground fighting. As you progress through the ranks, you start to learn to improvise, to be alert and have enough knowledge to get out of any situation, not just the scripted techniques.
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sounds impressive
The shaolin kenpo karate; is that any different form the American kenpo suggested earlier by Evolution

btw i have located two schools one in jujitsu and the other in goju ryu

goin this sunday to meet up with the instructor
hope things turn out in my favour :)
 
I think the main difference between Shaolin Kenpo and American Kenpo is that Shaolin has a focus on the 5 Shaolin (Chinese) animals (Tiger, Crane, Leopard, Snake and Dragon). My sensei is a 6th degree black belt in American Kenpo and 5th degree black belt in Shaolin Kenpo. The only reason his 6th degree was received in American Kenpo is because there weren't any available sensi's from the Shaolin Kenpo style that were above 5th degree to test him.
 
I would prob check out the Shorin Ryu or the jujitsu school. I've never seen Shaolin Kenpo but I have always enjoyed working out with the American Kenpo guys/gals. American Kenpo is one of the most "hands on" arts out there...fun stuff.
 
You hate kata?

Then you have no earthly idea what kata is designed to do. If you really think that its showing you how to fight 80 different opponents then your mistaken. Kata teaches the practicioner how to move their body between positions and stances, how to preform techniques without using the mind, how to flow from technique to technique. Its a training tool, thats how it should be used.

Most people disregard kata because they feel it doesn't have practical uses, and if you strictly follow the bunkai, it doesnt. It does however help teach you footwork, balance, focus, and body control.

It has come under scrutiny here lately, but I'd get bored with karate if we just did techniques all day long.
 
it not i like i despise kata's in all its form. they do have their benefits and uses

but i have always used footwork from boxing and jkd which emphasise the explosive movements of the hips and of the foot.(not that other arts dont emphasise that)
however i find that katas tend to restrict this explosive movement
the kata makes me feel constricted and rigid in my movements and doesnt allow the full power of the technique to flow out.

also Karate stances are too wide and the blocks simply dont appeal to me

this is not to say kata are useless in anyway :)
 
Most stances in karate are long and low (at least in shotokan) early because they're normally used to strengthen legs. As you go up in the ranks, stances get higher, shorter, and more mobile because we learn to generate power and strong stances with our hips.

Kata can be very powerful technique wise, look at katas such as empi, gojushiho sho, and even bassai dai. But I agree with you , its not for everyone. I think its benefitted me greatly tho, and its one hell of a workout :D
 
aevans410 said:
You hate kata?

Then you have no earthly idea what kata is designed to do. If you really think that its showing you how to fight 80 different opponents then your mistaken. Kata teaches the practicioner how to move their body between positions and stances, how to preform techniques without using the mind, how to flow from technique to technique. Its a training tool, thats how it should be used.

Most people disregard kata because they feel it doesn't have practical uses, and if you strictly follow the bunkai, it doesnt. It does however help teach you footwork, balance, focus, and body control.

It has come under scrutiny here lately, but I'd get bored with karate if we just did techniques all day long.
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Word.

Forms are the ****. Through forms, you learn the nuances of your style more thuroughly.
 
As a Black belt Kick Boxer, and Judo black belt. Combining the two comes in significant amount information, showing how Grappeling and striking differ. combing the two would ultimately give you a combat that involves grapling, striking and weapon handeling. Benny, I want you to go for Jeet Kon Do. Leave Karate. Jeet Kon Do is the real deal.
 
yeah, a combination of grappling and striking certanly is powerful.
Jeet Kon Do, is that grappling and striking? made to bring all the benifits of different arts into one? bruce lee took what he thought was good about different arts and made his own? or am i way off track?
 
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