I'm sorry, I have to step in and just end this. If someone is spamming for a third party company or even trying to sell their own products on this website, I don't really care. It happens. And, when it happens, the moderators usually nail the person right away and then the spammer leaves. But, when that person is caught red handed, especially publicly on the forum and not through private PMs, it really irritates me when they keep trying to pretend as if they have nooooo idea why they've been accused of spamming.
And, that's exactly what's happening here and it's stupid.
So, before I decided to throw in my two cents, I re-read this entire thread just to make sure I didn't miss anything or misread anybody's posts. With that being said...
And, you should know that I worked in sales for 7 or 8 years and I was damn good at it, so my bullshit detector is properly calibrated to sense out even the tiniest figments of crap.
I went to supplement training on Saturday and found a few facts that may be of interest, here are three scary facts backed up by research;
I went to supplement training on Saturday and found a few facts that may be of interest, here are three scary facts backed up by research;
(I deleted the 'information' provided, but I assure you it's convincingly similar. I needed to save space on characters so I could fit my post in without going over the character limit, so I had to eliminate some text. For those interested, the two posts in question are
POST #35 and
POST #38)
You repeated yourself twice. And, since it was such a long, drawn out post that happened to talk about the same exact things, since it was worded in the same exact order and progression, I find it hard to believe that it happened by accident. You knew what you were doing. You repeated yourself because that’s what sales people do. Mind you, BAD sales people do it (because if their first pitch doesn’t work, but they have nothing else to say that will sell their potential customer, they just repeat themselves out of desperation), but they’re still sales people.
But, hey…I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt for a moment. Let’s assume that you really did attend “supplement training” on Saturday.
In answer to the very nice way of saying that my information given by my company were wrong - I've done a quick reccy around the web and found the web pages to back up what I've been given in training
Your company was the outfit providing you with your “supplement training”, huh? That must mean the company you work for works in the health industry.
I'll have you know I'm a paraplanner in an Independent Financial Advisers in the UK
You’re a paraplanner for an independent financial advisor - an independent financial advisor that provides its employees with training in the field of supplements and health? Odd.
by my company - I mean the one I personally used for the detox
:snickers:
I can smell that from a mile away – twisting your own words around to make the customer feel like they’re the ones who are incorrect, while also making it seem like you have done nothing wrong. Typical sales tactic. The sad part is, it never works. Well, unless you’re good – REALLY good – which, it appears you are not.
You backtracked by saying that. You were the one who clearly said “MY COMPANY”, which implies that you either received training at the company you work for or that you own a company of your own. But, what you’re saying now is that by saying “my company”, you were really referring to some unrelated-from-your-true-profession training seminar provided by a third party company.
Sorry, but I don’t buy it. Nobody does.
I walked into CVS the other day to pick up some antihistamines for my dad, who was under the weather. The pharmacist at the counter thoroughly explained to me all of the risks, benefits, side effects and directions on how to use various antihistamine products. But, even though I am now thoroughly informed on the wonderful world of antihistamines thanks to my friends at CVS, I am never going to refer to it as “MY COMPANY.” I am never going to say that “MY COMPANY” taught me about antihistamines – I’m going to say, “the pharmacist at CVS told me” and leave it at that.
I went in for a visit, I listened to what their employee had to say and I bought one of their products. That doesn’t make it MY company just because of that. Hell, if that were the case, I could claim 30% of the share ownership of McDonald’s and nobody would think twice about it, huh? Yet, sadly…nobody would believe me. And, nobody believes you. Sorry.
I bet I'm not even in your country so how am I on here to make money?
Do you honestly think that people who live in different countries can’t make money off one another? Are you serious? No, you can’t be. You just can’t be. I mean, didn’t you say you work for a financial advisor? Well, if that’s true, I hope they fire you
immediately, because (if you really mean what you just said) you obviously have no concept of money and where it comes from. And, considering that most paraplanners have a college degree in either the field of business or economics (which both educate you on money flow), that’s pretty sad.
What pyramid scheme earner? Pyramid schemes are banned in the UK
Alcohol was banned here in the US for a long period of time (a long time ago), but people still drank. What’s your point? Just because something is illegal, it doesn’t mean people don’t do it. Pyramid schemes are illegal all over the place, but yet they still manage to be one of the most popular, illegal moneymaking tactics in use.
I have a company that I buy Aloe Vera products from for myself, my sister and my mum and have done since November last year. You sign up and get a discount. It looks better to put down director of a company rather than paraplanner in financial services.
Why do you have to tell this company what you do for a living? If you were just a regular customer who was merely buying lotions and whatnot, they wouldn’t ask you what your job title was. I don’t have to provide tax forms and proof of work when I go to Wal-Mart and buy my bathroom products, so what exactly is your business with this aloe vera company? Obviously, you’re not just a regular old customer of some sort.
I’m willing to bet those aloe vera products are products that you purchase from them so you can sell them to other people at a marked up price. And, I’m willing to bet that’s why it looks better for you to put down you are a director of a company, as opposed to a paraplanner. It gets you a better rate, doesn’t it? :sniff sniff: Ahh, I smell a member of the sales game.
I only posted up one link of many that I've found.
God, I hope someone else at the financial advising firm you work for does the counting. There is one post alone you made that contained a good 6 or 7 links. Remind me to never hire your employer to handle my money, because I’d get shortchanged like crazy and go broke.
5. I am not on here to make money out of people - and you are bang out of order to even suggest it without the proof that I am!
The proof is in the pudding and you’ve just been fed a big spoonful.
and you are totally wrong - I cant make money out of people internationally because I'm on entry level and its not possible. I'm not interested in asking people to join my company because I'm not set up to do that.
I can pick that statement apart in so many ways, but I’ll just stick with two simple key points. I'll just skip over the part where you reference asking people to join your company, which is something that only pyramid schemers would even think of saying - but I'll ignore that for now.
You can’t make money from people internationally – wrong. International moneymaking schemes are the most common and most successful. Nothing prevents you from making money overseas, especially on the internet.
You can’t make money from people internationally because you’re on entry level – sooooo, once you evolve past ‘entry level’ and get ‘promoted’ or whatever, then you CAN make money from people internationally? That means your company
is set up to sell things and make money.
Which brings me to…
It is not a pyramid scheme - because the company would NOT take money from people downline to pay me - people in the downline do not earn less than I do - if I was working the company properly - which I'm not! IF it did that it would be a pyramid scheme and that is illegal in this country!
“If I was working the company properly”…
”IF it did that it would be a pyramid scheme” – wow, if that’s not a dead giveaway that you are, in fact, operating within a pyramid scheme, then I don’t know what is.
I have a soap box and am not afraid to use it
Then you should probably use it to wash your mouth out with soap, because there’s an awful lot of crap coming out of it.