What would you pay?

I think if you are willing to sacrifice certain things you can still achieve the body of your dreams, and more importantly make the most of your health.

Some people refuse to let go of things like their career, the place where they live, they see too many obstacles and make excuses.

I would give up all of my modern day things to have the ability to continue to live a healthy life. No internet, phones, no car, wear second hand clothes, get rid of the tv etc.

Sure veges are getting expensive. But is there a possibility that maybe you could grow some things. Even if all you have is a window sill to grow them on.

There is always a way. I gave up my career, I reinvented a new one, I gave up so much because all I want is to be happy and healthy.

It is possible if you set your mind to it.
 
Trops said:
Yeah, but that's only till we start to get desperate and our health becomes more important then time or money
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I suppose my original thought processes regarding this thread were along the lines of honing in on ways to not let things get to this point.

And/or

Once you're at this point... how to most effectively/efficiently transition to a more healthy mindset where doing the things required for improving health aren't as painful or troublesome (against the grain if you will).

I mean, I have my ideas and I have my strategies I've used with various clients...

But I wanted to hear others thoughts. So far there's been some good discussion but most of it isn't in the direction I was really thinking... which isn't a bad thing. I mean, I was just rambling.
 
shae said:
I think if you are willing to sacrifice certain things you can still achieve the body of your dreams, and more importantly make the most of your health.

Some people refuse to let go of things like their career, the place where they live, they see too many obstacles and make excuses.

I would give up all of my modern day things to have the ability to continue to live a healthy life. No internet, phones, no car, wear second hand clothes, get rid of the tv etc.

Sure veges are getting expensive. But is there a possibility that maybe you could grow some things. Even if all you have is a window sill to grow them on.

There is always a way. I gave up my career, I reinvented a new one, I gave up so much because all I want is to be happy and healthy.

It is possible if you set your mind to it.
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You have to have a reason to set your mind to it though. Saying, "Because I want to be healthy" simply isn't enough in most cases. In my experience working with morbidly obese individuals, it's more about spending time working out their beliefs and perspectives on paper and identifying roadblocks in the mind that must be knocked down long before you start focusing on action.

Obviously this is not only very complex, as topics go, but also very individual.
 
I think that's a real good point, Steve. People will do what is healthy as long as it's convenient. When they see all the obstacles that are there they figure that they might as well just give up. Meanwhile, the obstacles driving to the store are there, but you are so used to avoiding them that it's second nature. You want to get avoiding the obstacles of healthy living to be just as natural.
 
Trops said:
Yeah, but that's only till we start to get desperate and our health becomes more important then time or money
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I must be in the minority then, because my health has always taken precedence over everything in my life.

If you don't have your health, nothing else matters.
 
Take a look around at the health and obesity crises most Americans face. Sadly you are the minority.
 
Steve said:
I suppose my original thought processes regarding this thread were along the lines of honing in on ways to not let things get to this point.

And/or

Once you're at this point... how to most effectively/efficiently transition to a more healthy mindset where doing the things required for improving health aren't as painful or troublesome (against the grain if you will).

I mean, I have my ideas and I have my strategies I've used with various clients...

But I wanted to hear others thoughts. So far there's been some good discussion but most of it isn't in the direction I was really thinking... which isn't a bad thing. I mean, I was just rambling.
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What direction did you want this to go? Because I know why people don't work out or take care of themselves. I hear excuses everyday ;)
 
I'm not quite sure I had a particular direction in mind. More on the psychology of it all I think, but we've done a million of those threads around here.
 
There might be a psychology behind it, but I think, for the most part, it's systemic. Sedentary and/or obese parents usually end up with sedentary and/or obese kids.

If kids are not aware of the rewards that come with being fit and eating healthy food, why would they bother? You need to be highly motivated and really want to expend the effort to look good.

For example, here is another wonderful invention for "effortless exercise":
 
I_love_muscle said:
There might be a psychology behind it, but I think, for the most part, it's systemic. Sedentary and/or obese parents usually end up with sedentary and/or obese kids.

If kids are not aware of the rewards that come with being fit and eating healthy food, why would they bother? You need to be highly motivated and really want to expend the effort to look good.

For example, here is another wonderful invention for "effortless exercise":
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OMG I can't stop laughing!!! That is the funniest thing I have EVER seen!!!
 
I_love_muscle said:
There might be a psychology behind it, but I think, for the most part, it's systemic. Sedentary and/or obese parents usually end up with sedentary and/or obese kids.

If kids are not aware of the rewards that come with being fit and eating healthy food, why would they bother? You need to be highly motivated and really want to expend the effort to look good.

For example, here is another wonderful invention for "effortless exercise":
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Yea, I know the systemic aspects of the origins. But that can't be changed. Sure, we can start educating our youth better regarding healthy living. But I'm speaking more on those who are already obese... the products of what you're discussing above.

On that front, it's primarily psychology I believe.
 
my price

Unfortunatley, the price of my perfect body would be too high.. To have the perfect body for me, it would be who i was before my kids... Unfortunatley i cant turn back time and i wouldnt give up my noisy, unique, individually frustrating children.. Its a journey, easy for some, harder for others..... Plus i hate pain and surgery so going under the knife will never be for me... I am Sure my hubby is sighing with relief...HA HA HA

* I_Love_Muscle.. have you any kids? You must be young...
Self Discipline does not mean Self Righteous, but sometimes it does mean Selfish...

I am currently in the obese range.. not becuase of my parents, I was an active child and teenager who picked up bad habbits and made poor choices.. MY children all 4 of them are healthy happy active kids, i am lucky we have a sports oval and two parks within shouting distance and we also live in a nice community friendly street.. my kids have some safety in our little area which allows them some privileges in these scary times...not everyone has this advantage...

TTFN
Chelle
 
I'm far from young. I'm 51.

Self discipline has absolutely nothing to do with being selfish. Moreover, having children does not preclude a person from attaining their goals. It's simply not a valid excuse for not working out. All you need to do is set priorities, make the right choices, and involve your children in your fitness goals.

For what it's worth, self discipline is the ability to know what you must do to attain your goals, and the primary difference between success and failure.

Failure isn't an option for me.
 
....agree...

I see we agree on two points..
We all have choices...and.....
Children are not an excuse.. But I was referring to your view on obese children...

I was going to ask if you were a man, but after seeing your pretty avatar..ha ha ha....

......Every man is an Island......

Regards and goodluck
 
Fifty2drop said:
I see we agree on two points..
We all have choices...and.....
Children are not an excuse.. But I was referring to your view on obese children...

I was going to ask if you were a man, but after seeing your pretty avatar..ha ha ha....

......Every man is an Island......

Regards and goodluck
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I'm definitely female. Check out my home page. Unfortunately I don't have a lot of pics on my computer at work, but you'll see I'm a girl ;)

I still believe that, for the most part, obese parents raise obese children and that it is a systemic issue.

Perhaps you aren't raising your children this way, and I applaud you for that. But you would be in the minority.
 
Steve said:
To have the body of your dreams today?

I was thinking randomly today about how much $ people spend on diets, pills, programs, special foods, books, clubs, gyms, surgery, etc, etc and it's really astonishing.

Most often people desperately spend money b/c they can't manage the above costs adequately. But spending money is obviously a cost. So it seems that people are more likely to part with their money than their time, habits, cookies, etc.

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Gym Membership $133/month
Parking for Gym ($2/day) $60/month
Food per month $800/month
Gym clothes $200
Sneakers $75

Result?

Not a whole lot.


It's funny to see this post, because I ended my gym membership because one of my many excuses not to go was because I had to pay for parking.

In this last year, I've been asking myself that question -- I was going to the gym and not seeing a lot of results, and through a lot of things that happened this year, I rethought a lot of my beliefs around the worth of my fitness.

I realized that paying for a gym membership that I barely used was just throwing money away. I didn't need a gym to lose weight. I needed to focus again on my diet and on exercising -- and that meant taking away the obstacles (paying for parking, having to "dress up" for the gym, having to get to a class early enough to take a spot, blah blah blah).

Is there a price to getting that perfect body? Yes, and I think it's a combination of all the health problems you can have if you don't (for me, it's diabetes, heart disease, cancers, etc.), the fun I will miss out on if I am too embarrassed to go out in a bathing suit or not fit enough to go rock climbing, the cost of feeling unhappy in my life because I don't look on the outside how I feel on the inside, the cost of having to buy bigger clothes, the cost of all that and more.

I'm not sure it's cemented yet -- I'm still struggling with making this a reality for me. But I know that today I am much further ahead than I was six months ago and a year ago and two years ago.

If I could snap my fingers and make myself fit and healthy again without any effort, OF COURSE I would do it. I just know that it's not going to happen. And no one -- not even a personal trainer -- can do it for me. I know that it has to come from inside of me.

And trust me, if there was a short cut, I would have found it by now.
 
I_love_muscle said:
There might be a psychology behind it, but I think, for the most part, it's systemic. Sedentary and/or obese parents usually end up with sedentary and/or obese kids.

If kids are not aware of the rewards that come with being fit and eating healthy food, why would they bother? You need to be highly motivated and really want to expend the effort to look good.

For example, here is another wonderful invention for "effortless exercise":
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I don't agree with this. I don't think it's systemic. At some point, parents were not obese. This is a new problem that we're having in our society.

I do think there that the problem is the convenience society that we live in -- it's cheaper and easier to get unhealthy food. It's easier to drive than to walk. Our towns and cities are not made for walking. We live in suburbs and probably drive into the city.

Schools have done away with PE and recess in exchange for prepping students for state testing (that results in funding for schools if the students do well).

I don't think that we, as a society, are focused on health. Our government doesn't promote it. Millions of Americans don't have health insurance. Fruits and vegetables are more expensive to buy than breads and cheap meats.

I wish it was only the case of a parent being sedentary resulting in children being obese -- I wouldn't be overweight!

I wished I live in a city where I could walk to work or to public transportation. I wish there were more parks. I wish my friends lived closer so I wouldn't have to drive to their houses. I wish the cars here would respect pedestrians and cyclists.

I wish my company was in a building that had a gym. I wish my company would pay for a gym membership (that I probably wouldn't use, but it would be nice to have!).

I wish my farmer's market was available every day, instead of only on Saturdays. I wish there was more parking at that market, because sometimes it's easier to go to the supermarket (Where temptation lays) than to go to the farmer's market.

I was a thin child. I gain weight when I lost my PE and my recess.
 
Oh Shit!!!!

My sincerest apologies I_Love_Muscle....Obvioiusly i am still half asleep....

:blush5:

dear me... so sorry
 
Honestly I would have to say I would pay a butt load of money (to say the least) If i could have a hassle free "fit body" like diet pills and such tend to promise.
And im sure if it was possible the whole world would be a lot thinner... But for now i'd have to say I like my new mindset and don't mind the current cost of time and effort. It gives me something to do, be consious about and make me feel good about.
 
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