Well...if im gonna do this...

howdoi

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....might as well do it right....

Ok we'll i wanted to post pics...bc...that should make me accountable.

I dont have much weigh to lose..about 5-10lbs. But i do have a LOT to tone up.

I think for me is more about becoming more self disciplined...it irritates me that ive been trying to lose and tone up the same 10lbs for the past 10 years....its time to settle down and prove to myself that I CAN

I know it wont be a dramatic change, but just doing it is gonna make me feel SOOOO much better about myself....

Im starting with 5 lbs....then onto the last 5....





lets see how it goes...

This is a perfect pic of what i wanna lose/tone up....we will see....
 
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Your right, a little toning and you will be smoking hot.....although, I have to say, I'd love to have your body just the way it is right now :)
 
intense cardio. High rep, high set with small weights. 5 and 10lb dumbells will be your best friend.

You'll be surprised what you can change in 60days.
 
Btw, what height are you?

Im 5 feet tall, 112 lbs....im bassically "normal" range, but getting dangerously close to overweight, so I want to go down to 105-100lbs. I know it doesnt seem like a healthy weight but trust me, im tiny height wise so any extra weight is very very noticeable.
 
intense cardio. High rep, high set with small weights. 5 and 10lb dumbells will be your best friend.

You'll be surprised what you can change in 60days.

yup im gonna be doing as much of that as I can. I went to the gym today and ran 15 minutes, kinda slow pace, 5.8m/h but im trying to get back into the grove of things. (i havent been in the gym regularly for a while). I also did 15 minutes in eliptical and some abs and arms.
I hope i can keep this motivation going!
 
intense cardio. High rep, high set with small weights. 5 and 10lb dumbells will be your best friend.

You'll be surprised what you can change in 60days.

No.

I feel like saying that is piss-poor advice but that would just be mean.

The OP is not big to begin with. This means to lose weight, she'll have to eat very few calories relatively speaking. On such low cals, intense cardio is not usually the best option. Too much associated fatigue centrally and peripherally without the energetic capacity to recover adequately.

And that's not even what I take beef with.

I take beef with the high rep, high volume recommendation.

You can take my advice for what it's worth, but I'd recommend the exact opposite of this..... no offense Ironman.
 
No.

I feel like saying that is piss-poor advice but that would just be mean.

The OP is not big to begin with. This means to lose weight, she'll have to eat very few calories relatively speaking. On such low cals, intense cardio is not usually the best option. Too much associated fatigue centrally and peripherally without the energetic capacity to recover adequately.

And that's not even what I take beef with.

I take beef with the high rep, high volume recommendation.

You can take my advice for what it's worth, but I'd recommend the exact opposite of this..... no offense Ironman.

I agree if she is toning up, I have noticed that I am cut in places I didn't even know exsisted on my body from Steve's recommendations in the past six months.

I now do HEAVY weight but LOW reps... I do take in a lot of calories (about 2000), so I can do more intensive cardio than she can, but her cardio should be fairly low intensity (maybe some interval training on the treadmill is good, but not HIIT).
 
Pilates Magic for Toning

Thats a great goal, and one I am also actioning. I have found Pilates, (Winsor pilates) to be a great toner and a gentle strengthener. Thought this may help you too. Keep going, day by day, you will get there!
 
Thats a great goal, and one I am also actioning. I have found Pilates, (Winsor pilates) to be a great toner and a gentle strengthener. Thought this may help you too. Keep going, day by day, you will get there!

What is a 'toner'?
 
What is a 'toner'?

This person has posted twice in the forums and keeps advocating Pilates by Windsor, so I can only assume its "clever spam".

At anyrate, I think she means a toning regiment (and/or exercise routine) = a toner.
 
But what exactly do you mean by, "toning"?

Does a muscle tone?

Steve,

I think its that old misconception that you can TONE your muscles. The only two things your muscles can do are get larger/stronger or smaller/weaker. People think toning is changing the way muscles look but its not true, when people say TONE they really should say, LOSE BODY FAT, but they don't because toning sounds more sophisticated or sporty.

P.S. maybe I should stay out of this, I think you were trying to make this point anyways. I just laugh when people think they are more cut when they think they are making the muscle longer or something. They don't realize it's there they are just making it shown.
 
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Cardio cardio cardio.. Basics in losing weight is activity, and eating less.

Low calorie isn't the only way to go unless you want to look like Jared from Subway. Sure he's skinnier, but he has no shape.

You will need to work with some weight. This whole debate between high reps w/ no weight, and low reps w/ high weight gets a bit tiresome. I actually lost my weight, and gained the right amount of muscle I wanted to w/o going overboard by not overdoing it on the heavy lifting. But I didn't do 50 reps w/ 5lbs either. Unless you are strapping those 5lbs to your ankles than they probably wouldn't do much for you.

I have my 6 pack back, and I am not bulked up at the same time... I found a happy median.
 
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Hey there. I am pretty much in the same boat as you (5'3, 114 lbs and trying to lose a little bit of weight) so I definitely understand what you're talking about! Good luck reaching your goals. You're going to look great! :)
 
Cardio cardio cardio.. Basics in losing weight is activity, and eating less.

Low calorie isn't the only way to go unless you want to look like Jared from Subway. Sure he's skinnier, but he has no shape.

You will need to work with some weight. This whole debate between high reps w/ no weight, and low reps w/ high weight gets a bit tiresome. I actually lost my weight, and gained the right amount of muscle I wanted to w/o going overboard by not overdoing it on the heavy lifting. But I didn't do 50 reps w/ 5lbs either. Unless you are strapping those 5lbs to your ankles than they probably wouldn't do much for you.

I have my 6 pack back, and I am not bulked up at the same time... I found a happy median.

You were dieting.

Nobody bulks up while dieting.

To add, your n=1 experience means very little, especially when comparing across sexes.
 
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You were dieting.

Nobody bulks up while dieting.

To add, your n=1 experience means very little, especially when comparing across sexes.

I think people think they bulk up because they become "more defined" by losing body fat, so it looks more impressive and assume its added muscle (although it was either there or maintained from weight training).

Not to thread crap, but I had a trainer here for the football team yesterday make a comment to me about how long my gym workouts were. I didn't want to get into it with him but basically I am doing the basic lifts (that Steve talks about) in the school gym (my weights are fairly up there with 5 reps each set), I am attempting to lose fat while maintaining muscle so that when I drop off the fat my body won't burn off the muscle for energy as well. Also as an added bonus the muscle will be there to shine through when the fat isn't covering it. But I realize I am not trying to get BIGGER in the sense of muscle at all, but I will appear more cut and defined due to the fat loss, which is what I explained to the trainer who actually then commended me for having a sound plan (Thanks Steve). Oh yeah, I realize I don't take in near enough calories (DUH, I am creating a deficit on purpose!) to bulk up.

-Keith
 
I think its that old misconception that you can TONE your muscles. The only two things your muscles can do are get larger/stronger or smaller/weaker.

When someone says they want to 'tone' their muscles, it's simply a lack of knowledge about the body. Certainly not their fault.

Let's talk a bit about muscle tone.

If when I ask someone what they mean by it when they say, "I want to tone my muscles," they explain that they want to increase the myogenic tone of their muscles..... than I'd respond by saying, "that makes sense."

Unfortunately though, most think there's some magical benefit to weight training that *reshapes* their muscles and gives them that ripped look, which as anyone who knows anything about the body understands that being ripped is about carrying very little body fat.

FYI to anyone who doesn't know, you can actually increase the myogenic tone of a muscle. This is merely a measure of a muscle's density. Here's the kicker though..... if you really want to 'tone' the muscle in the literal sense (i.e., increase myogenic tone), you have to lift heavy weights, haha. In the classical, mythical sense that most associate with toning, you need to lift light weights for high reps. They are completely wrong in the context of toning a muscle.

And, I forget his screenname above, but the gentleman eluded to being tired of hearing this stupid debate about high rep or low rep and heavy or light. I was kind of taken back by his statement.... I mean there are very *real* differences in the parameters that play out in the development of one's physique.

For starters, and especially for women who aren't as fortunate as men in that they don't have the natural tendency to pack on or maintain muscle, especially while dieting, lifting heavy weights sends the strongest neuro-chemical signaling for muscle maintenance.

Secondly, different loading parameters (heavy vs. light) call on different *characteristics* of the muscle, namely different motor units/muscle fibers. This will play out in performance and physique.

Thirdly, and in general, there are multiple types of muscle growth. You've got the myofibrillar and the sarcoplasmic hypertrophy. Each is primarily triggered by a different training stimulus.... so when saying you're tired of this 'debate' you darn well better caveat what you mean b/c this isn't something that can be written off so easily by simply saying something like, "it doesn't really matter."

Myofibrillar hypertrophy essentially is the growth of the contractile proteins comprising our muscle. This ties into the myogenic tone topic discussed previously. Larger contractile proteins and fibers in the muscle (myofibrillar hypertrophy) = a denser muscle = increased myogenic tone. Having dense muscles go an extremely long way in regards to looking firm and 'ripped' at low body fat levels.

Myofibrillar hypertrophy is stimulated primarily by heavy loads, which naturally dictates lower reps.

Sarcoplasmic hypertrophy essentially is the growth of the fluid component of the muscle; sacroplasm, glycogen, etc. While this still contributes to overall hypertrophy, it's stimulated primarily by lighter loads, which naturally dictates higher reps.

If I had to organize a training regime for a woman who had to lose 10 lbs or so, you better believe that heavy training is going to dictate the majority of it. This will help her retain the majority of her muscle (assuming proper diet as well) and give her the most mileage in terms of the physique she is most likely looking for.

When you start getting into different categories, goals, and situations..... certainly recommendations change. For instance, an obese person isn't going to need a routine comprised primarily of heavy training. More 'pumping and toning' crap will be better suited for said individual since caloric expenditure is of primary importance in this case.

It all has to be given in context, and that's why I'm not a fan of saying, "do whatever."

People think toning is changing the way muscles look but its not true, when people say TONE they really should say, LOSE BODY FAT, but they don't because toning sounds more sophisticated or sporty.

Truthfully, most just aren't educated on the subject. Their source of information is fitness magazines and infomercials which are as misleading as they come. They when they say they want to tone their muscles, they really don't know what they're saying.

P.S. maybe I should stay out of this, I think you were trying to make this point anyways. I just laugh when people think they are more cut when they think they are making the muscle longer or something. They don't realize it's there they are just making it shown.

Hahaha, nah, you're fine. I was trying to make a point and I was going to get to it one way or another. What I've said in this post is my point, so I'm happy. :)

I think people think they bulk up because they become "more defined" by losing body fat, so it looks more impressive and assume its added muscle (although it was either there or maintained from weight training).

This is most often the case.

Don't get me wrong, there are certainly instances where muscle mass increases concurrently with losses in fat stores. This is most common in obese individuals and/or people who have never done any sort of resistance training.

But a vast majority of the time when someone says, "I've gained so much muscle on my diet," they're simply confused about the exposure of existing muscle now that they've lost a fair amount of fat.

And that confusion is fine.... as long as they're happy with their end appearance.

Not to thread crap, but I had a trainer here for the football team yesterday make a comment to me about how long my gym workouts were. I didn't want to get into it with him but basically I am doing the basic lifts (that Steve talks about) in the school gym (my weights are fairly up there with 5 reps each set),

Was he saying the workout was too long or too short?

trainer who actually then commended me for having a sound plan (Thanks Steve).

Anytime.
 
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