Weight loss tips - preferably of the less obvious kind

@ Jofthepeace
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Some people like to make vegetables the main dish instead of a side dish. This may cut down calorie consumption.

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Great meal ideas! To take this one a bit further, the dieticians that I work with advise people (everyone, not just weight loss clients) to use the divided plate method. Some of my clients have even have gone out and bought divided plates for themselves (yes, kinda like those divided plastic plates for children). Your meals should be divided as follows (on a NORMAL sized plate - 10 inches MAX, preferably 8 inches - not a giant 12 inch plate!):

Breakfast:

1/3 fruit (or veggies, if you prefer)
1/3 grains and starches
1/3 meat and alternatives (alternatives include things like nuts, tofu, seeds, nut butters, cheese, etc.)

Lunch and dinner:

1/2 veggies (at least 2 kinds)
1/4 grains and starches
1/4 meat and alternatives

Many people count things like potatoes, squash, etc. as veggies... these are considered starches, not veggies!
 
For what it's worth, it doesn't have to take place as a child. When I went off to college the cafeteria only had 2% milk. After the first year or so, when I'd go home and visit my family, whole milk tasted rather odd to me. Now I can drink anything but skim and find it all tastes fine. So it's less about the age, and more about the consistency. (I also learned to drink diet sodas which I used to despise when I was in my late 20's).

Meanwhile, my tip (probably more original to some than to others) - make sure you have some protein with every/meal snack. Protein is more filling, and takes more calories to digest than either carbs or fat. It's also good to keep you from losing muscle. In a pinch, I'll have some Greek yogurt or low fat cheese (or even some chicken or pork) with a snack to get the protein in, and the protein is always the first thing I decide on when planning out a meal.
 
1/3 meat or alternative... for breakfast? That seems like a weird combination. Chicken, porridge and fruit? I hope I'm just being dumb and there's a better suggestion?
 
roflao at holly. chicken porridge fruit. What about milk. It is high in protein! People seem to find dairy a dirty word. Its a mistake. Dairy is a protein food too. So are many of the beans.
 
Protein is more filling, and takes more calories to digest than either carbs or fat.

This makes it sound like you are depending on what you eat to burn calories rather than on being active. I think eating protein because it burns more calories to be a very weak reason to prefer protein over carbs.

Carbs should be the highest macro in your diet. Even good high protein diets put the macros that way. eg the CSIRO total wellbeing diet (google to learn more if interested)

Carbs need to stop being demonised. Its only refined carbs that are the problem. Relying on carbs as your main source of energy is less stressing on your body in that there are less health ramifications.Hhere are some health ramifications of a diet very high in protein - (i'm not looking up the details to get them perfect. Anyone else can check further if interested in understanding my points more fully) ketosis is basically protein poisoning if you eat a great deal of but proteins, less calcium absorption from diets high in protein, prostate cancer from long term high milk consumption. People who drink about two litres of milk a day usually are the sort of person who eats meat at every meal and 4 eggs at breakfast. Typically these are labouring men so they need to consume a lot of calories. They'd be better of eating more carbs. This might also be true of elite athletes

Anyway, i know there's no agreement in the high protein v high carbs. People will just do what they want. I am not against protein. I eat a fair bit of it myself but I don't feel the need to over do it. Most of my protein comes mixed with my carbs in milk, beans, wholegrains, lentils, yoghurt because I don't eat much meat and cheese now. I also eat eggs. Protein doesn't mean you have to eat pure protein foods like lean chicken or lean steak or fish at every meal.
 
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Make small changes that you can stick with and keep adding to them once you feel they are part of your normal life. The small changes add up over time!
 
Eat 2-3 cups of vegetables every day

Vegetables are the best low calorie foods around. They are bulky and make you feel satisfied when you eat them in a meal with some carbs like rice or pasta or proteins like fish or eggs for example. YOu will also feel healthier when you eat enough vegies because of all the fibre and vitamins.

Nutritionists tell us we should eat 2 -3 cups of vegetables a day. 2 cups cooked and 1/2-1 cup salad. Although they don't have to be cooked. It could all be raw if you prefer.

One serve of vegetables is half a cup. And we should aim for a bit of variety to get a range of vitamins as well as flavours.

If you make an effort to eat your vegies you will most probably find it easier to pass up on those sweet fattening snacks.

*note 2-3 cups of potatoes is not an option.

The vegetables should not be deep fried, like chips. They should be steamed, roasted, boiled or cooked in only a little oil. They can be cooked in a casserole with meat, in a bake with pasta or rice and white sauce. Steaming keeps more of the vitamins in the food while boiling them washes them out so steam as much as possible. Or grilled or lightly fried and served on toast for breakfast. There are so many great ways to eat vegetables.

Legumes are also considered vegetables when it comes to making up your 2-3 cups of servings. Legumes also have a lot of protein in them.

EVeryone is welcome to join the new vegie cooking club i've just started in the CLUB section. We'll do one recipe in common a week and share vegie recipes and feedback.

Its a bit long but i thought it was worth exploring the whole point for the sake of motivation.
 
The BetterHeath Victorian Government Nutrition website

This is a really useful link for working out your food or meal planning. There's a lot of other no nonsense information about nutrition and health on this site and its presented in very clear english.

I really like this site for health matters.
 
1/3 meat or alternative... for breakfast? That seems like a weird combination. Chicken, porridge and fruit? I hope I'm just being dumb and there's a better suggestion?

Haha, ya protein is often a tough one to get in in the morning and really, whatever combination of food works for you is what you should have! If you're having cereal, granola, porridge... things like that, I would probably go more for like a tbsp of peanut butter with your fruit, a slice of cheese, have your fruit in cottage cheese, or have serving of nuts (approx. 10 nuts!).

Eggs scrambled with veggies & cheese and a piece of toast?

Exactly what I was thinking... I often even skip the toast and just use more veggies! But if you do have the toast, just make sure it's whole grain.

Sardines or other tinned fish on toast with an apple? (ok, I have no idea of the calorie content of that)

Sardines aren't my thing, but they have tons of protein! (a whopping 23 g of protein per 92 g serving, according to nutritiondata.self.com!)


I should point out that is doesn't have to be 1/3 fruit, it could be 1/3 veggies.
 
This makes it sound like you are depending on what you eat to burn calories rather than on being active. I think eating protein because it burns more calories to be a very weak reason to prefer protein over carbs.

Carbs should be the highest macro in your diet. Even good high protein diets put the macros that way. eg the CSIRO total wellbeing diet (google to learn more if interested)

Carbs need to stop being demonised. Its only refined carbs that are the problem. Relying on carbs as your main source of energy is less stressing on your body in that there are less health ramifications.Hhere are some health ramifications of a diet very high in protein - (i'm not looking up the details to get them perfect. Anyone else can check further if interested in understanding my points more fully) ketosis is basically protein poisoning if you eat a great deal of but proteins, less calcium absorption from diets high in protein, prostate cancer from long term high milk consumption. People who drink about two litres of milk a day usually are the sort of person who eats meat at every meal and 4 eggs at breakfast. Typically these are labouring men so they need to consume a lot of calories. They'd be better of eating more carbs. This might also be true of elite athletes

Anyway, i know there's no agreement in the high protein v high carbs. People will just do what they want. I am not against protein. I eat a fair bit of it myself but I don't feel the need to over do it. Most of my protein comes mixed with my carbs in milk, beans, wholegrains, lentils, yoghurt because I don't eat much meat and cheese now. I also eat eggs. Protein doesn't mean you have to eat pure protein foods like lean chicken or lean steak or fish at every meal.


My tip was to have protein with every meal, not to make it your highest macro.

Protein IS more filling. Whether you rely on food or exercise for your calorie deficit, feeling more full on the same number of calories is never a bad thing.

Also, please look up ketoacidosis. Is is not the same thing as ketosis, even though it's often confused. Ketoacidosis occurs due to the liver producing ketones when it shouldn't be, not from a low carb diet.

Of course... having some protein with every meal (my tip) also shouldn't cause ketosis.

You say you're not against protein, but yet you responded to my tip as if I'd said carbs were evil or something, and went on a rant about why you should eat more carbs. I emphasized protein because it's really easy to find carbs to snack on - it takes more planning to get protein in. You don't have to like my tip, but I'd appreciate it if you didn't argue against it as if it were a tip to go low-carb.
 
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Get the best parking spot at the store - far away from the entrance. The extra steps will add up and you will be better for it. Plus - there seem to be lots of those spots available!! The far away ones that is.

It always amazes me that when I go to the gym in the summer - people complain that there is no parking close to the door - um...you are AT THE GYM!!!!
 
FiberOne cereal with skim milk is an awesome breakfast its not too high in calories plus the fiber keeps things..ahem...moving?
 
ya protein is often a tough one to get in in the morning

No its not. Milk is a good source of protein. If protein is only between 25 and 35% of your diet, why isn't a cup of milk adequate? I put mine on my cereal. Easy!

There is also protein in legumes, good bread, in yoghurt. There's also protein in your oats There is protein all over the place. There is no rule that says that protein has to be the main nutrient in the food to be counted.

I think the day will come when all this high protein stuff will be regarded as a mis-direction. Not that i mean to suggest that PBL is advocating high protein.
 
ou responded to my tip as if I'd said carbs were evil or something, and went on a rant about why you should eat more carbs. I emphasized protein because it's really easy to find carbs to snack on - it takes more planning to get protein in. You don't have to like my tip, but I'd appreciate it if you didn't argue against it as if it were a tip to go low-carb.

Its because when people talk about proteins like this, it usually goes hand in hand with the idea of low carb diets. It sounds like you think carbs are evil. Because a lot of people who push protein, think carbs are evil. But the fact is that carbs should still be the most significant part of the daily diet. I think its important to emphasise that because a lot of people around here seem not to appreciate that.

I am sorry for jumping to the wrong conclusion but i still think its worth elaborating on the carb thing because a lot of people will infer you are advocating a high protein diet.

I don't think it takes more planning to get protein in and so i don't agree that it should be the priority of every meal. Look at all the people on this forum eating chicken with every meal. And look how so many people are afraid of bread, pasta, rice. Look at the same people eating almonds and peanut butter for their snack food. Both of which are high in fat which everyone seems to overlook. People who eat a lot of meat on a diet are better off staying away from peanut butter and almonds. They are getting heaps of protein already.

Yes i know that you feel easily satisfied when you eat protein. I've followed a moderate high protein diet. (The CSIRO total wellbeing diet - devised by nutritionists at the australian government science organisation. I gave up though because meat was the centre of every meal and at the time i had given up meat and only ate fish. It was too difficult adjusting my food to their meal plan. I can do it now though).

Its much harder to get enough vegetables in your diet than protein. This, in my opinion, anyway, should be the core of a meal. If you start off thinking about what vegetable am i going to eat at this meal, its easy to add in some protein. But less easy the other way around.

As to snack foods. Go and buy a hotdog - protein. A meat pie - protein. Put cheese on everything - protein. Protein is everywhere. And a lot of the time its laden with fat.

Good carbs like legumes don't feature much in the diets of people who focus on protein and yet there is good protein in legumes as well as carbs.

This is why i reacted the way i did. I can't help but come across as argumentative. I am trying to make something clearer.

The only point then that we differ on is whether to make protein the centre of your meal planning.
 
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To follow the rule I got to turn 2 tips into 1.

Water/fiber to make you feel fuller. It isn't just food that fills the stomach.

Guess the best tip is a glass of water pre meal so you don't over eat. Okay I'm cheating. Fiber last longer.

There is a down side of fiber suppies. If you quit taking them you get hungry!!!
 
Fibre supplements.

I don't know anything about fibre suppies - by which i suppose you mean fibre supplements.

Have you considered psyllium fibre. Its pure fibre and will fill you up if that's what you want but you better not have too much or you will get stomach discomfort. I take 1 tbsp per day. I don't take it to bulk up a meal. I take it for constipation which is a side effect of my meds.

A bag of psyllium costs about $7 in Australia and it last for ages and ages. Metamucil (yucky product name) is more pricey version and is sometimes flavoured with orange. I've never bothered to try it. Why would i?

Do you want to elaborate on these other things? How much do they cost? What else is in them?
 
Avoid salty foods

Salty foods make you retain water. Yesterday i had pho which is a light calorie vietnamese soup containing lean beef, rice noodles and a few vegies in a clear beef stock. Overnight my scales went up 1kg.

Also for dinner i had 1 cup of canned baked beans. I am not going to stop eating these but I am sure the salt in them contributed to the overnight result. I am not really bothered as it will come down again but eating high salt foods on a daily basis is not good for general health or weight loss.

Most prepared foods of the supermarket shelf or canned foods, packaged foods or take aways are high in salt. Cadburys chocolate is so high in salt i can taste it.

Another good reason to cook your own meals from unprocessed foods.
 
If you're not happy with your body, look at yourself naked in the mirror every morning when you get up and use your displeasure as motivation to be healthy that day.

Or, if you're like me, you'll just vomit all over the floor and drop a few pounds in the process.

Either way - a skinnier you :)
 
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