Weight loss the right way?

wavey

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am a male, aged 35 with a BMI of 40 (18st 8) and I also have a hip/pelvis/knee injury on my right side, which I sometimes need to use crutches or occasionally my walking stick for mobility.

I also suffer with arthritis symptoms in both of my wrists, more in my left, which I assume is down to nearly 10 years of using walking aids, etc.

I have won the postcode lottery and have been granted partial funding for a lap band, but as anyone lucky enough to get it knows, you must loose 5% to 10% of your highest weight to qualify for the surgery.

I am committed to loosing weight,(I have already lost my 10%) my problem is my lack of movement and exercise. If an average man my age would walk 6000 steps, then I will clock up less than 1000, if that.

I was advised to cut my calories down to 1800 to 2000 by the dietitian, but I suggested a lower number to compensate for the little amount of walking and exercising I can do.

My concern here is that my family are worried about me because I am eating so little, in their opinion, but I feel this is not the case, since all I am doing is reducing the amount of fuel my body can store with my excess stored fat, thereby forcing my body to burn up stored mass.

They argue that if I eat too little, my body will go into starvation mode and rather than burn stored fat, it will hoard everything it gets and store it.
Can someone please clear this up for me and my three girls as they are worried and think I'm being daft or doing it wrong.

I've been aiming to not exceed 1200 calories per day, and on average I'm about that on most days, but I skip breakfast - well I have a piece of fruit for breakfast with a cup of tea and then have around 300 to 400 calories for lunch, then a yoghurt or another piece of fruit between lunch and dinner (sometimes a glass of innocent smoothie) and then I have my dinner (around 450 to 650 calories)

I am also taking Xenical and Adios herbal weight loss aid.

Since the weather has improved, I have been cutting out one of the above for a smoothie lolly after dinner, and having my yoghurt for dessert, but they think I'm going about this all wrong, but my argument is because they're all skinny girls, if they were to do it I would have a go at them because they don't have it to spare like I do and if I do get to be a skinny member like they are, I will not continue to eat this little, but I will increase my calories to a balanced level to maintain my new weight and not loose weight.

I would be very grateful if anyone replying could state if they are someone of experience in weight loss, or a health professional, etc. as this will add more weight to your argument, whichever way you decide to lean towards!:)
 
welcome to the forums!

There is a few things you might want to look at

1) Most doctors will tell you not to skip breakfast. It is a jumpstart to your body and it really will make calorie control easier.

2) 1200 is definately too low for you. You should be more around 1600-1800 at least.

3) Why do you feel like you need to take those two herbal pills? You don't need pills to lose weight. It really just comes to calories in vs calories out.

4) People have lost weight by lap band (see the other sections of our forums about that) but you still have to learn the basics of controling your calorie intake. The band just makes it easier but do you want the band forever? Just asking.

I know there are many knowledgeable people who can aid you here. You don't need to do this alone.
 
Thank you for your reply Jerico, but I still do not agree with you for my situation, and I have further evidence.

For starters, I mis-spoke when I said that I skip breakfast, I have stopped weighing my cereal and I have opted for having a piece of fruit for breakfast with a cup of tea, or sometimes I just have a small glass of smoothie - all of this is instead of cereal.

Also, my dietitian suggested the same calorie intake as yourself, but I tired it for 3 weeks prior to changing it to what it is now and I didn't loose any weight at all - I decided that this was down to me not being active enough, which I am limited greatly by when I am taking pain killers frequently for the pain and these usually make me feel drowsy.

Since I reduced my calorie intake down to around 1100 to 1200 ( on average) I have been monitoring my weight loss with the aid of my wii fit and I can show you that my weight loss is on average a steady 2.4lbs per week, which is the average weight loss for a fatty like me and not too quick.

Here are my findings for reference:

Week1: 03/05/10 - 19 st, 12lb - 0
Week2: 10/05/10 - 19 st, 10lb - 2
Week3: 17/05/10 - 19 st, 8lb - 2
Week4: 24/05/10 - 19 st, 5lb - 3
Week5: 31/05/10 - 19 st, 1lb - 4
Week6: 07/06/10 - 18 st, 11lb - 4
Week7: 14/06/10 - 18 st, 9lb - 2
Week8: 21/06/10 - 18 st, 7lb - 2

Over 8 weeks = 0 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 4 = 19 / 8 = 2.375lbs

Also, if you do reply jerico, please can I ask you to state if you are a health pro or a well educated successful 'loser' that I am aiming to be! lol :)
 
Alright, first I'm one of the site mods. I'm not in the business, I am just another well educated 'loser' like you :)

If I understand your post and your weight is 259, then you are actually ok losing 2.5/2.6 pounds a week at this time. The safe amount is about 1% of your body weight a week. Let's say your calorie count is ok (which I don't believe but we are going to go with what you said), how much of that is protein? Maybe a better idea of what your overall diet is might help.

Like I said, your calorie count is under what you really should be having but let's take a closer look at your diet first.
 
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Alright, first I'm one of the site mods. I'm not in the business, I am just another well educated 'loser' like you :)

If I understand your post and your weight is 259, then you are actually ok losing 2.5/2.6 pounds a week at this time. The safe amount is about 1% of your body weight a week. Let's say your calorie count is ok (which I don't believe but we are going to go with what you said), how much of that is protein? Maybe a better idea of what your overall diet is might help.

Like I said, your calorie count is under what you really should be having but let's take a closer look at your diet first.

I have made a diary of my average intake of food, so I can post it on here to show I am eating a balanced diet.

Monday:
Breakfast: a pear (65cal)
Lunch: Grilled bacon & tomato sandwich (315 cal)
snack: yoghurt (175 cal)
Dinner:Jacket potato and peas & sweetcorn (320 cal)
snack: smoothie lolly (95 cal)
total: 970 calories

Tuesday:
Breakfast: Muesli & semi skimmed (250 cal)
Lunch: Grilled bacon & tomato sandwich (315 cal)
snack: none
Dinner: Roast chicken & potatoes and peas & sweetcorn (405 cal)
snack: smoothie lolly (95 cal)
total: 1065 calories

Wednesday:
Breakfast: a pear (65cal)
Lunch: Grilled bacon & tomato sandwich (315 cal)
snack: yoghurt (175 cal)
Dinner: Jacket potato and peas & sweetcorn (320 cal)
snack: smoothie lolly (95 cal)
total: 970 calories

Thursday:
Breakfast: a pear (65cal)
Lunch: Grilled bacon & tomato sandwich (315 cal)
snack: yoghurt (175 cal)
Dinner: pitta pizzas & salad with dressing (780 cal)
snack: smoothie lolly (95 cal)
total: 1430 calories

Friday:
Breakfast: glass of water (0 cal)
Lunch: 2 oatibix biscuits and semi skimmed with honey (250 cal)
cheese spread & tomato sandwich (240 cal)
snack: yoghurt (175 cal)
Dinner: diced chicken & salad with dressing (520 cal)
snack: smoothie lolly (95 cal) yoghurt (175 cal)
total: 1455 calories

Saturday:
Breakfast: glass of water (0 cal)
Lunch: 2 oatibix biscuits and semi skimmed with honey (250 cal)
cheese spread & tomato sandwich (240 cal)
snack: yoghurt (175 cal)
Dinner: Chicken, Articoke & tomato risotto (381 cal)
snack: smoothie lolly (95 cal) yoghurt (175 cal)
total: 1316 calories

Sunday:
Breakfast: glass of water (0 cal)
Lunch: 2 oatibix biscuits and semi skimmed with honey (250 cal)
cheese spread & tomato sandwich (240 cal)
snack: yoghurt (175 cal)
Dinner: Chicken, Articoke & tomato risotto (381 cal)
snack: smoothie lolly (95 cal) yoghurt (175 cal)
total: 1316 calories

It's not absolutely 1200 calories everyday, it's just what I try to aim for.
Granted this is a typical week, but I also eat other white fish, tuna and I avoid red meat altogether.
None of my food comes from a pre prepared source like a ready meal and we can eat whatever we want, just as long as we prepare it from scratch.

Now I believe this to be a healthy balanced diet.

I will welcome all comments, just please state your credentials so as to lend any weight to your opinion.

Many thanks!
 
We had a thread recently about starvation mode here:
http://weight-loss.fitness.com/newcomers/41656-starvation-mode-dieting-myth.html
Basically I think starvation mode is a myth, for all practical purposes, especially for someone who is obese. But, read the thread and make up your own mind.
I don't have a problem with what you are doing, especially since you are weighing yourself, and your weight loss is at a reasonable rate.

I am curious about what you have written about the lap band surgery. Is there really a lottery you have to win to get the surgery? And, if someone is capable of losing weight before the surgery, why wouldn't they just continue on without surgery and lose the rest of the weight that way?

My qualifications: I have lost 90+ pounds and have stayed about the same weight for over 6 months. My current BMI is on the borderline between normal and slightly overweight.
 
We had a thread recently about starvation mode here:
http://weight-loss.fitness.com/newcomers/41656-starvation-mode-dieting-myth.html
Basically I think starvation mode is a myth, for all practical purposes, especially for someone who is obese. But, read the thread and make up your own mind.
I don't have a problem with what you are doing, especially since you are weighing yourself, and your weight loss is at a reasonable rate.

I am curious about what you have written about the lap band surgery. Is there really a lottery you have to win to get the surgery? And, if someone is capable of losing weight before the surgery, why wouldn't they just continue on without surgery and lose the rest of the weight that way?

My qualifications: I have lost 90+ pounds and have stayed about the same weight for over 6 months. My current BMI is on the borderline between normal and slightly overweight.

Firstly - Bloody well done for loosing all your weight!

As for the NHS lottery, yes, each county has it's own healthcare unit and some do and some don't offer obesity treatment - hence the slang term 'postcode lottery' which is kind of loose anyway since before the general election, you could simply petition your trust for funds for a neighbouring trust to treat you.

This was my concern when I first saw a doctor, it's as if you're qualifying for help with weight loss because you can't do it on your own, but to take the 1st steps, you have to loose weight! - it's like asking a smoker to stop smoking for a month before you can have nicotine patches!

But trust me, when you have the lap band hanging over you and deadlines set, you are very much motivated as I'm off the opinion that if I don;t continue to meet all of the criteria to have the op, I'll loose it and the trust will re-assign those funds elsewhere.

Plus, I'm a bit concerned about after the operation, what kind of scars will I have, etc.

I've been attending a BOSPA meeting regularly, but so far it's all been aimed at gastric bypass candidates, so no luck there.

If there's anyone on here whose had a lap band and can share the good points and bad points with me I would really appreciate it.
 
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