Weight loss pills?
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What works, is a lifestyle change... dieting doesnt work long term, you need to change your eating habits and exercise habits for good. That's not found ina bottle, that's found within your self.
what i'd suggest is getting an account at SparkPeople or FitDay and start honestly recording everything you eat in the course of a day, use measuring tools to get an accurate assessment. My bet is that you are consuming more calories than you think you are.
Once you get a healthy lifestyle plan in place, you will see the pounds come off.
i started end of may
Pinky2
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Hun... I just want to say i know how you feel with the whole wanting to loose fat fast because im in the same boat as you. For years ive been surrounded by my skinner friends, seeing them pairing up with guys and me getting left behind... but i have to say that there is no quick win situation.
Ive tried so many diets, pills, and other such things over the years... spent god knows how much money on them trying to loose weight. Yes they work... but only for a while. Ive always found that as soon as i go off them then the weight starts coming back on.. almost to the extent that im back to where i started now.
If you really seriously want to loose weight you got to put your mind to it... easier said then done i know... im still trying to motivate myself into doing it. Maybe find a friend that you can loose weight with... normaly having someone with you to persuade you not to give up helps. I wish i had someone like that... id love an exercise partner but because of certain issues such as me living a drive away from most of my friends this isn't going to happen.
All i can say is you got to work for it... If you really want to use diet pills then have a look on the internet for them... But i seriously think your wasteing your time on them..
Good luck.. i hope things get better for you hun. x
Ive tried so many diets, pills, and other such things over the years... spent god knows how much money on them trying to loose weight. Yes they work... but only for a while. Ive always found that as soon as i go off them then the weight starts coming back on.. almost to the extent that im back to where i started now.
If you really seriously want to loose weight you got to put your mind to it... easier said then done i know... im still trying to motivate myself into doing it. Maybe find a friend that you can loose weight with... normaly having someone with you to persuade you not to give up helps. I wish i had someone like that... id love an exercise partner but because of certain issues such as me living a drive away from most of my friends this isn't going to happen.
All i can say is you got to work for it... If you really want to use diet pills then have a look on the internet for them... But i seriously think your wasteing your time on them..
Good luck.. i hope things get better for you hun. x
bethany
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i don't think i've ever heard of any pill being recommended to replace ALL meals and nutriants, what are they called? diet pill are usually used in combination with a healthy life stye, smart food choices and regular exercise form what i understand.
freefat....whatever you do dont try and replace everything with a diet pill. I can tell you for one because I have done it and now i suffer from sevire IBS, and I have an ongoing battle with a stomach ulcer...and all because I got so crazy about my weight that i wanted to do anything to be skinny. I was also 16 at the time, all that mattered to me was to look like the women in the magazines, and hope one day I would get there. I forget the name of the pill I took (it was intended for morbidly obese, and for those about to undergo gastric bypass) and it is a good thing because they were bad, they not only gave me the on going health problems i have now, but they were highly adictive, I was 16 years old and addicted to diet pills, if i missed even one dose I would get severe migrans and reach for the diet pills, my mom finally had to pull me off of them and it was so hard. they are a drug and should not be treated like some sort of helpfull aid in dieting, as you will learn from this forum, it is all about changing your lifesyle and eating habbits. no pill will do that for you take it from someone that knows the reprucutions, I am in pain everyday, and thankfully due to my diet change and monitoring from the Dr. he says I will get rid of this, I am now 22 years old....so do the math 7 years of pain all for some diet pills!!!! DONT DO IT. just try and change your eating habbits and FOR GOOD it cant be temporary. good luck to you, and i know where you are coming from, by the most women see the man inside and the confidence long before the outside! a mans personality is what hooks me and is what is far more attractive. Also if you are not at all convinced do what my doctor told me and what any doctor will consult him before taking anything and alow him to recommend what you should take and eat, at least you will be monotored and doing it the healty way.
Buh Bye Gut
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I'd be so freaking hungry if I only ate pills. Enjoy your calories, my problem is I don't think I get to eat enough fun things when I'm trying to lower my weight, why would I want to lower it more?
In my experience, the magic behind weight loss is basic. 90% of it, is calories in/calories out. Whatever route works for you, it will always boil down to this fact. Anyone can lower calories and exercise, and in turn lose weight. You can lose weight being a heroin junky, you CAN lose weight starving yourself. You cannot improve your self image and maintain a healthy weight without learning to eat properly.
When your born, you eat to live. When you're hungry you eat, when you're full you stop. Every overweight person without a serious medical condition learned bad habits, or treated emotional issues with food.
Being on a diet, is not ever going to keep the weight off. Slowly reducing your weight through a managed diet and activity is the only long term solution.
What would you do if you lose 40 pounds eating pills? Eat those pills forever in a higher quantity? If that's safe and healthy and ok with you, great. At some point you really need to address your self esteem, and get to the point where you're confident you are in control of what and how you eat.
In my experience, the magic behind weight loss is basic. 90% of it, is calories in/calories out. Whatever route works for you, it will always boil down to this fact. Anyone can lower calories and exercise, and in turn lose weight. You can lose weight being a heroin junky, you CAN lose weight starving yourself. You cannot improve your self image and maintain a healthy weight without learning to eat properly.
When your born, you eat to live. When you're hungry you eat, when you're full you stop. Every overweight person without a serious medical condition learned bad habits, or treated emotional issues with food.
Being on a diet, is not ever going to keep the weight off. Slowly reducing your weight through a managed diet and activity is the only long term solution.
What would you do if you lose 40 pounds eating pills? Eat those pills forever in a higher quantity? If that's safe and healthy and ok with you, great. At some point you really need to address your self esteem, and get to the point where you're confident you are in control of what and how you eat.
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M2M
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There is no magic pill.
Do you really think if there was one, there would be so many people paying money through the nose for get thin quick schemes.
Besides - if you don't learn now how to eat and exercise in a healthy way, losing the weight is meaningless. You'll only gain it back. And then some.
There are things you can do right now. Today.
1. Eat less - but not too little
2. Work out
3. Drink a lot of water
Do you really think if there was one, there would be so many people paying money through the nose for get thin quick schemes.
Besides - if you don't learn now how to eat and exercise in a healthy way, losing the weight is meaningless. You'll only gain it back. And then some.
There are things you can do right now. Today.
1. Eat less - but not too little
2. Work out
3. Drink a lot of water
I know it is easy to say you wont get addicted to them I said the same thing. However, like i recommended if this is something you really want to do I would go to your Dr. tell him/her your plans and allow him/her to make recomendations. our bodies are all very different, and it is hard for one or all of us to recommend what fad diet pill sitting on the shelves at walmart work. ask the Doc, he will be able to find the best.
ToothlessFerret
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Nicely put M2m, and so very very true.
Be careful with diet pills
Just please be careful when selecting a diet pill. Many are not safe and I do not think it is a good idea to rely just on a pill. Like someone in another post said "there is no magic pill".
Here is what I suggest: get some exercise (even if it is just a little bit), drink plenty of water, watch what you are eating and make sure you get the nutrition you need.
Just please be careful when selecting a diet pill. Many are not safe and I do not think it is a good idea to rely just on a pill. Like someone in another post said "there is no magic pill".
Here is what I suggest: get some exercise (even if it is just a little bit), drink plenty of water, watch what you are eating and make sure you get the nutrition you need.
vigilante1
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My advice is also not to try to be magical. Here are some changes to make right away. I'm not sure where you live right now, but here would be our American advice:
1. Stop eating fast food and soda pop! Your body absorbs junk faster from these sugar drinks then anything.
2. Replace nearly 100% of your drinking habits with water, tea, and some 100% juice. Juice can be higher in calories, but it's also heathly. Namely grapefruit and orange. With that said, you need to drink HALF your body weight, in ounces, of liquid. So if you weight 225 drink about 112 ounces of water each day. That can be hard to do I know, but basically just try to drink a lot! Carry water bottles, make frequent trips to the drinking fountain whenever you pass by, drink tea at restaurants etc...
Water is extremely important when trying to loose weight. It suppresses your appetite, because you're full of liquid! And it is needed to flush out the bad stuff through your system, digestive tract, and as you drop the pounds.
3. At its most basic level, weight loss will occure when your body has a deficit of calories. Let's say you need 2300 calories a day for your body to function if you sat on the couch the entire day. This is the basic calorie need to simply be alive. No activity, nothing. Your body has to create heat, pump blood, filter it, move oxegen in and out, run your brain and muscles, etc... And it takes 2300 calories to do it.
So if your body does not get that, it will have to pull that energy, or fuel, from something else, which is its fat stores. If you are active, working out, excersizing, wrestling, and so on, your body will need more calories to work. However, you still need that deficit of calories, to loose weight.
Please note some other things, if you take this to the extreme and just drop all your calories, thinking maybe if you get no calories, you will loose all your weight in a week, think again! Your body will go into a state of starvation and shut your motabolism down, your blood sugar will drop. Well, BAD things will happen.
What you want to do is calculate how many calories your body needs, start calculating how many calories you expend in a day with your activities, and then create about a 500 calorie deficit of that number. This forum has many links for calculating all those things, it's not to hard to get the numbers.
There are some other things to think about when trying to loose weight. One is that, as a man, you WILL weigh more then you think you should, due to muscle. Muscle is heavier then fat. Consider, if a guy is 200 pounds and wants to loose 15 pounds, so he works out every day of the week, weight-lifting. Pretty soon he will GAIN muscle and BURN fat. He might look fit as a fiddle and muscluar, but weigh 15 pounds MORE then when he started! A lot of muscle builders and athelets might be about 5' 11" tall and weight 250 pounds but look like super stars because of muscle mass!
In other words, don't let the scale be your guide, let the mirror be your guide.
That being said, also note that you need to somewhat limit your aerobic activity. Yes that's a shock! But its been found that, for men, a lot of aerobic activity (like bicycling, treadmills, running) tends to burn more muscle then fat. I don't know how they came up with that. But in any case, if you go to the gym, instead of 30 minutes on a treadmill and 15 lifting weights. Try a 10 minute treadmill as a warmup to 35 minutes of weights. A mans body does better with the muscle building and weight training, then aerobics.
Consider some more things, if you will. If you starve your body of calories and fats and carbs and protein and all that, you WILL burn your muscle, because the muscle has no fuel (protein, carbs) for your workouts and daily activity. Keep in mind that you might loose 50 pounds and go from 225 to 175, but you will loose muscle rather then fat. And what happens is, you are happy standing on the scale, but you STILL look flabby because your muscle is gone and your fat is still hanging here and there. Again, it's not the scale, but the mirror that determins your results.
Your life-plan should be a combination of burning some fat, and converting some fat INTO muscle. Burning fat will loose weight, but converting fat will GAIN weight, but look better.
There is NO short term fix for weight loss. You must simply change the way you live so that you can have a healthy lifestyle the rest of your life, and never have to worry about weight. But if you take some extreme approach to quick weight loss (such as extreme low carb like Atkins), you will loose weight, but put it right back on when the "diet" stops.
Changing your life is not a diet, it is not short term, it's just something you bring yourself to do.
You are only 16 years old, you are barely even getting started in life and you act like it's all over if you can't talk to a girl. Your girl may not come for another 6 years, it WON'T MATTER. You will love a woman the same today, or in 6 years, when you meet the right one.
My advice for you, my friend, is to monitor EVERYTHING that enters your mouth. I say, don't actually change anything, yet. Just go through your average day, or week, and record everything you do. Next you can analyze it and find where those extra carbs and cals are coming from. Maybe it's the crackers you keep taking at lunch, or the soda every day with dinner. Or maybe you eat a lot of some fruit, thinking it's good for you (which it is), but also contains that extra 200 calories you were missing.
This record will be your start to a new lifestyle!
I suggest, by writing things down, and keeping a log, and writing your GOALS for each day, each week, each month; that you will be accountable to yourself to meet these goals. If you write it down and practice it, it's much harder to fail because you know specifically what you want.
As far as change right NOW that you can do, is split your meals up into 5 or 6 meals a day. It is a VERY common thing that is taught by professionals these days. Eating regularly keeps your blood sugar even, your motabolism pumping (thus expending more energy and burning fat) and keeps you feeling fuller, longer, which stabolizes your hunger pangs.
So my suggestion is, every 3 hours just have a tiny meal, or a snack. Eat a breakfast with some whole grains and protein and fresh fruit, take any extra diet pill you might like to, such as the kinds which boost motabolism, at this time. A few hours later have a snack bar from Atkins or Slimfast, or a meal replacement shake. Then later for lunch have a salad or a sandwhich on wheat bread. Or snack on an apple, or nuts, an avacado, boiled egg, etc... Then later have another snack, maybe some beef jerky or anything with the right combo of cals and carbs. For dinner have baked chicken or fish and brocolli.
You don't have to eat bad tasting food when "dieting", because this life change isn't a diet, it's just, better. You can eat the foods you like, you just have to eat in portions which fit your meal frequencies and cals for the day.
Try staying away from white flower foods and processed foods. "Processed foods" is a category easy to spot, it's basically anything that doesn't grow in nature! A can of soup is processed. An apple isn't. Processed foods have so many chemicals, it's bad on your stomach and digestive system. All those atificial flavors, food coloring, preservitives, and long-winded medical-sounding chemicals. So cut back on the processed stuff.
Lastly, stay away from the trans-fats. Just look on the label and see what kind of oils they use. Try to use stuff like extra virgin olive oil. Stay ABSOLUTELY CLEAR of ANY product which uses high fructose corn syrup (hfcs)! This is very hard to digest and can raise cholesterol levels. Also stay away from hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils.
All you have to do is start recognizing where you are making mistakes in the things you eat and do. All it takes is a ONE wrong "snack" that might be the size of a pack of gum, to ruin your cals or carbs for a day. Multiple mistakes a day, or "splurging" to often, will do you in too. One can of pop a day can lead to 15 extra pounds in a years time! The little things add up, and that also applies to the GOOD things as well.
That's all for now, have to go to work! But good luck, and sorry for the post length, I know I'm pretty new here, but been doing a lot of reading.
1. Stop eating fast food and soda pop! Your body absorbs junk faster from these sugar drinks then anything.
2. Replace nearly 100% of your drinking habits with water, tea, and some 100% juice. Juice can be higher in calories, but it's also heathly. Namely grapefruit and orange. With that said, you need to drink HALF your body weight, in ounces, of liquid. So if you weight 225 drink about 112 ounces of water each day. That can be hard to do I know, but basically just try to drink a lot! Carry water bottles, make frequent trips to the drinking fountain whenever you pass by, drink tea at restaurants etc...
Water is extremely important when trying to loose weight. It suppresses your appetite, because you're full of liquid! And it is needed to flush out the bad stuff through your system, digestive tract, and as you drop the pounds.
3. At its most basic level, weight loss will occure when your body has a deficit of calories. Let's say you need 2300 calories a day for your body to function if you sat on the couch the entire day. This is the basic calorie need to simply be alive. No activity, nothing. Your body has to create heat, pump blood, filter it, move oxegen in and out, run your brain and muscles, etc... And it takes 2300 calories to do it.
So if your body does not get that, it will have to pull that energy, or fuel, from something else, which is its fat stores. If you are active, working out, excersizing, wrestling, and so on, your body will need more calories to work. However, you still need that deficit of calories, to loose weight.
Please note some other things, if you take this to the extreme and just drop all your calories, thinking maybe if you get no calories, you will loose all your weight in a week, think again! Your body will go into a state of starvation and shut your motabolism down, your blood sugar will drop. Well, BAD things will happen.
What you want to do is calculate how many calories your body needs, start calculating how many calories you expend in a day with your activities, and then create about a 500 calorie deficit of that number. This forum has many links for calculating all those things, it's not to hard to get the numbers.
There are some other things to think about when trying to loose weight. One is that, as a man, you WILL weigh more then you think you should, due to muscle. Muscle is heavier then fat. Consider, if a guy is 200 pounds and wants to loose 15 pounds, so he works out every day of the week, weight-lifting. Pretty soon he will GAIN muscle and BURN fat. He might look fit as a fiddle and muscluar, but weigh 15 pounds MORE then when he started! A lot of muscle builders and athelets might be about 5' 11" tall and weight 250 pounds but look like super stars because of muscle mass!
In other words, don't let the scale be your guide, let the mirror be your guide.
That being said, also note that you need to somewhat limit your aerobic activity. Yes that's a shock! But its been found that, for men, a lot of aerobic activity (like bicycling, treadmills, running) tends to burn more muscle then fat. I don't know how they came up with that. But in any case, if you go to the gym, instead of 30 minutes on a treadmill and 15 lifting weights. Try a 10 minute treadmill as a warmup to 35 minutes of weights. A mans body does better with the muscle building and weight training, then aerobics.
Consider some more things, if you will. If you starve your body of calories and fats and carbs and protein and all that, you WILL burn your muscle, because the muscle has no fuel (protein, carbs) for your workouts and daily activity. Keep in mind that you might loose 50 pounds and go from 225 to 175, but you will loose muscle rather then fat. And what happens is, you are happy standing on the scale, but you STILL look flabby because your muscle is gone and your fat is still hanging here and there. Again, it's not the scale, but the mirror that determins your results.
Your life-plan should be a combination of burning some fat, and converting some fat INTO muscle. Burning fat will loose weight, but converting fat will GAIN weight, but look better.
There is NO short term fix for weight loss. You must simply change the way you live so that you can have a healthy lifestyle the rest of your life, and never have to worry about weight. But if you take some extreme approach to quick weight loss (such as extreme low carb like Atkins), you will loose weight, but put it right back on when the "diet" stops.
Changing your life is not a diet, it is not short term, it's just something you bring yourself to do.
You are only 16 years old, you are barely even getting started in life and you act like it's all over if you can't talk to a girl. Your girl may not come for another 6 years, it WON'T MATTER. You will love a woman the same today, or in 6 years, when you meet the right one.
My advice for you, my friend, is to monitor EVERYTHING that enters your mouth. I say, don't actually change anything, yet. Just go through your average day, or week, and record everything you do. Next you can analyze it and find where those extra carbs and cals are coming from. Maybe it's the crackers you keep taking at lunch, or the soda every day with dinner. Or maybe you eat a lot of some fruit, thinking it's good for you (which it is), but also contains that extra 200 calories you were missing.
This record will be your start to a new lifestyle!
I suggest, by writing things down, and keeping a log, and writing your GOALS for each day, each week, each month; that you will be accountable to yourself to meet these goals. If you write it down and practice it, it's much harder to fail because you know specifically what you want.
As far as change right NOW that you can do, is split your meals up into 5 or 6 meals a day. It is a VERY common thing that is taught by professionals these days. Eating regularly keeps your blood sugar even, your motabolism pumping (thus expending more energy and burning fat) and keeps you feeling fuller, longer, which stabolizes your hunger pangs.
So my suggestion is, every 3 hours just have a tiny meal, or a snack. Eat a breakfast with some whole grains and protein and fresh fruit, take any extra diet pill you might like to, such as the kinds which boost motabolism, at this time. A few hours later have a snack bar from Atkins or Slimfast, or a meal replacement shake. Then later for lunch have a salad or a sandwhich on wheat bread. Or snack on an apple, or nuts, an avacado, boiled egg, etc... Then later have another snack, maybe some beef jerky or anything with the right combo of cals and carbs. For dinner have baked chicken or fish and brocolli.
You don't have to eat bad tasting food when "dieting", because this life change isn't a diet, it's just, better. You can eat the foods you like, you just have to eat in portions which fit your meal frequencies and cals for the day.
Try staying away from white flower foods and processed foods. "Processed foods" is a category easy to spot, it's basically anything that doesn't grow in nature! A can of soup is processed. An apple isn't. Processed foods have so many chemicals, it's bad on your stomach and digestive system. All those atificial flavors, food coloring, preservitives, and long-winded medical-sounding chemicals. So cut back on the processed stuff.
Lastly, stay away from the trans-fats. Just look on the label and see what kind of oils they use. Try to use stuff like extra virgin olive oil. Stay ABSOLUTELY CLEAR of ANY product which uses high fructose corn syrup (hfcs)! This is very hard to digest and can raise cholesterol levels. Also stay away from hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils.
All you have to do is start recognizing where you are making mistakes in the things you eat and do. All it takes is a ONE wrong "snack" that might be the size of a pack of gum, to ruin your cals or carbs for a day. Multiple mistakes a day, or "splurging" to often, will do you in too. One can of pop a day can lead to 15 extra pounds in a years time! The little things add up, and that also applies to the GOOD things as well.
That's all for now, have to go to work! But good luck, and sorry for the post length, I know I'm pretty new here, but been doing a lot of reading.
excellent post vigilante... thanks for sharing all that..
monikuddle
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There are No Miracles
Again, I'm one who can sympathize...after years of trying, trying, trying...you're ready to just see some results for Pete's sake!! I know this. Finally after years of wishing to just be on a "miracle pill", last month my doc finally put me on Orlistat. (b/c the Dr's here really don't care? maybe.) Guess what?? ...no miracles. I'm one who really doesn't eat all that bad to begin with. I have a medical condition that causes me to gain and retain weight...but I guess I just figured that a pill -from the DOCTOR!!- would work for sure! I've been on it for a month now...with some really gruesome side effects, I might add...and I haven't lost a single pound on it! Could be that it's just going to take time...or maybe the pills don't work miracles after all...all I'm saying is that the only SUREFIRE way to lose weight is by taking control of it yourself. You might finally get on one of these pills and find that it's the biggest disappointment ever.
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Monica
Again, I'm one who can sympathize...after years of trying, trying, trying...you're ready to just see some results for Pete's sake!! I know this. Finally after years of wishing to just be on a "miracle pill", last month my doc finally put me on Orlistat. (b/c the Dr's here really don't care? maybe.) Guess what?? ...no miracles. I'm one who really doesn't eat all that bad to begin with. I have a medical condition that causes me to gain and retain weight...but I guess I just figured that a pill -from the DOCTOR!!- would work for sure! I've been on it for a month now...with some really gruesome side effects, I might add...and I haven't lost a single pound on it! Could be that it's just going to take time...or maybe the pills don't work miracles after all...all I'm saying is that the only SUREFIRE way to lose weight is by taking control of it yourself. You might finally get on one of these pills and find that it's the biggest disappointment ever.
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Monica
Just think about it. If losing weight was as easy as just popping a pill. Then everyone would be at their target weight!
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bicepsforyou
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I use a pill called LA DIET PLAN. It has helped me. I use it with my low carb diet.
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twolilangels
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Really only since end of May...WOW your doing great woman...
both are possibilities... but just because they prescribe the drugs doesn't mean you have to take them.. sometimes it might take a few different therapists before you find one that works for you and that you mesh with... (finding a therapist is kind of like dating.... you gotta kiss a few toads..
If mom keeps bringing sweets into the house, why not offer to do some of the grocery shopping for her... and buy the healthy stuff you want to eat...
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