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Ok, I need help.

I am seriously trying to eat clean and am avoiding soda, chocolate, candy, etc like the plague. I recently bought some pretzels to help me feel full and such, only to find out they are not good for you. I try gum, whcih helps some of the time. I know lifesavers are candy and should be avoided, but they seem to be the only thing I have that will get me thru at times. HEre's where u come in:

I am EXTREMELY picky about my food. Most of the things u people eat on a regular basis, I find repulsive (i.e. humus, tofu, whey, supplements, yogurt, fish,...need I go on?). What can I, as a junk food junkie, eat that will help me in my goals of losing weight, building muscle and eating clean?

I NEED to do this. I have been eating bananas and apples like they are going out of style, not to mention green beans. PLEASE HELP ME! I'm so frustrated!
 
It's OK, there's plenty of foods you will like that can help you get to your goal. For protein, my favorite by far is chicken, and/or turkey. Both excellent, lean sources of protein. Beans can be a good source too, but not one I'd overdo. For complex carbs, whole wheat bread is great, brown rice also. Fruits and veggies are great carbs too, berries are especially good. Are you a fan of eggs? Egg whites are a great source of protein. If I'm ever using oil, I always make it olive oil, good fat.
 
ok, chicken and turkey. I can do that. LOVE THEM. But does that mean I have to cook a chicken breast or turkey breast in order to have pieces for snacks? As a mom with 3 kids, I'm not sure I'll have the time. No, u know what? that's a cop-out and an excuse. I can do that. Beans....what kind? Green or baked? And if it's baked, aren't they full of cals and sodium? Also, I need to increase the protein and reduce fat and carbs.
 
Ok, I need help.

I am seriously trying to eat clean and am avoiding soda, chocolate, candy, etc like the plague. I recently bought some pretzels to help me feel full and such, only to find out they are not good for you. I try gum, whcih helps some of the time. I know lifesavers are candy and should be avoided, but they seem to be the only thing I have that will get me thru at times. HEre's where u come in:

I am EXTREMELY picky about my food. Most of the things u people eat on a regular basis, I find repulsive (i.e. humus, tofu, whey, supplements, yogurt, fish,...need I go on?). What can I, as a junk food junkie, eat that will help me in my goals of losing weight, building muscle and eating clean?

I NEED to do this. I have been eating bananas and apples like they are going out of style, not to mention green beans. PLEASE HELP ME! I'm so frustrated!

SO a list of potential things Wendy will eat to stay "clean":

chicken breast -yes you need to cook them, everything else is processed and has junk in them
turkey-again, yes this needs to be REAL turkey. I have sometimes cooked a whole thanksgiving turkey, carved it up and frozen sections of it to put in recipes or by itself. Its not that much work
Eggs/egg whites
mozzarella cheese (string cheese)-1-2 oz a day
whey protein powder-i bet you could find a good kind you'd like
OR in a pinch-soy powder-"carb solutions" is very good, and although not super "clean" it will work fine for you. it doens't taste like soy.
natural peanut butter-may take a little bit to get used to the difference of the full of sugar pb but its very good 1-2T a day
carne asada-not a bad choice
other lean cuts of steak-dont go overboard, but its ok
tuna? grilled shrimp?[/B]
BEANS-yes green are good for fiberous veggie carbs, but don't use baked beans ever to eat clean. What was mentioned was meant to be taken as: kidney beans, black beans, pinto beans, garbanzo beans etc. getting the dry beans and making them is best but canned is OK
any fruit (bananas sparingly)
any veggie(yams, potatoes use sparingly and near workouts)
whole wheat bread-make sure its really whole wheat. some are just dyed brown!
brown rice (white will do if you HAVE to)
nuts: almonds/walnuts in their raw unsalted/ unroasted state
avocado
olive oil
I'm sure there is more stuff, but this is a good beginning. is any of this appealing at all?
 
I'd advise against the beans, if you're trying to lose fat. You don't need the extra estrogen floating around.
 
Well if talking about soy this is somewhat true. If talking about black beans, kidney beans and so forth it is very low. Flaxseed is much higher in phytoestrogens then non-soy beans. Add to that it takes a serious amount to even come close to effecting those levels. You would have to consume 50 grams of soy for it to be even 1/10 the effect of natural estrogen. It is one of those things that has gotten out of hand (like the article that tells you soy makes men gay) The levels of isolate soy protein they give to rats is beyond what the average person would be taking in comparison. Also the antioxidant aspect of kidney beans well out way the neglagable estrogen properties.

If you have a report on this that shows a different view I would love to read it, but from the studies I have read the big key lies in the amount (which they flub over mostly to make some SHOCKING DISCOVER).

Basically my point is I think that thinking about not eating beans because of estrogen is talking it a bit to far. Watch your starch intake in general and calories.
 
^^Why I don't take flax, soy beans, tempeh, tofu, soy milk, onions, lettuce, tomatoes, red wine, & green tea.

Maybe not much one by one, but if you include everything it can add up. You do have a point though, for women probably not as big of a deal though..
 
Are you kidding me? All that stuff has phytoestrogens in it? I think if we're going to get nit-picky we could find something "wrong" with just about every single food out there. Just do the best you can and enjoy it for goodness sakes!
 
Are you kidding me? All that stuff has phytoestrogens in it? I think if we're going to get nit-picky we could find something "wrong" with just about every single food out there. Just do the best you can and enjoy it for goodness sakes!

I agree - with a moderate diet of sufficient calories, you should be able to attain your goals and have a bit of fun with it too.
 
Ok, I need help.

I am seriously trying to eat clean and am avoiding soda, chocolate, candy, etc like the plague. I recently bought some pretzels to help me feel full and such, only to find out they are not good for you. I try gum, whcih helps some of the time. I know lifesavers are candy and should be avoided, but they seem to be the only thing I have that will get me thru at times. HEre's where u come in:

I am EXTREMELY picky about my food. Most of the things u people eat on a regular basis, I find repulsive (i.e. humus, tofu, whey, supplements, yogurt, fish,...need I go on?). What can I, as a junk food junkie, eat that will help me in my goals of losing weight, building muscle and eating clean?

I NEED to do this. I have been eating bananas and apples like they are going out of style, not to mention green beans. PLEASE HELP ME! I'm so frustrated!

.. tricky one.

I'm pretty fussy about what I eat myself. and just because it's organic or whatever.. that doesn't neccessarily mean I'm going to buy it or think it's a good choice.
some of that stuff just isn't nice and irt becomes like a token b.s. subscription.
I spoke to a man a couple of yrs ago on (Fordprefect) who was a football player and hIIT feind and so on as you might be, who was putting together some reasearch notes for a ph.D. in something or other to do with training and nutrition and bf and hee documented a log there of an experiment where he gave up his supplements and instead incorporated a whole bunch of mainly poultry but also just whole foods in general .
.. he still worked out the same but within a month his bf was seriously up, he was feeling comparitively sluggish and he was having difficulty maintaing the results..
I personally don't liike poultry. I don't think it catabolises properly and for the amount of protein and essential animalfibre you get from it, there are muuch better ways to attack a metabolism.
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like eggwhites and protein shakes for example.
It's reeally quite difficult to find a clean diet that works to your goals and alot of different ppl have differnt ideas of what that looks like.
Ideally my own diet is fat free, salt free, low dry carb and virtually nothing processed whatsoever...
except that to beat those deprivation feelings and cravings and feed them functionally, I usually go for something like a verry occassional 8-10 gm, piece of wholemeal bread, daily few gm serves of rice crackers ( low-sodium flavours with tomatoe and pepper or just a couple on their own or whatevver you want to do with them ) to keep stable and for a sweet or syrup, I go for a carb bar ( for about 6-8 gms per bar .. (where even 1/2 is usually enough to rebalance your palate) mostly made of condensed fruit with all sorts of benifits.. or a condensed fruit stick for maybe 1.5 gms of carbs.


I'm not entirely sure of the mozzarella myself for salt and fat content , but no doubt there are somme versions about that would be less yuk.

Your situation is tricky because if you want to buuild muscle as opposed to just get lean and dense, then that really does require a higher carb intake.

i look at the recommendations you've been given and I feel sick just imaagining living on that stuff!. it feels crusty compaed to what I do.


I recommend you cut the majority of your complex carbs, step up liquid proteins and glycos and add lemon juice and soda water and protein ratioed dry red wine to break it down, a fibre supplement , keep the lettuce, keep the tomatoes ( awwesome value Imo), do a no -fat cheese , have a daily watermelon at the end of your day to activate the fibre supplement and help destabilse your bowel contents and hydrate and through the day suck on a boiled sugar -alternative fruit drop.

I don't reeally have a problem with the beans ( as high in salt as they are ) but if I felt I reeally had to do that, I'd propably only do a few teaspoons and add it to my eggwhites and salad..

I have reports from a collaboration of doctors ands medical phd's myself that say that all that fat most ppl think they need is totally unneccessary, but for ourselves as women, if you incorperate something liike the lightly dark-choc coated fruit bars, then you get to keep a period aswell.
I ate like this working out 12 intense hrs everyday for 6 mth brackets and I can assure you that if you doo this, you'll get extremly lean and extremely strong and dense extreemley quickly. .
say goodbye to the peanut butter though( as if peeanuts are even a good nut for chrissakes.. as opposed to say almonds for the zinc and magnesium ) but you caan have a good phyto-soy mix which for 2.3 gms of carbs per 10 grm serve contain a crushed host of goodies that you can have in hot water ( and equal?? for a chinesse like light super nutrient porrigey mix if you wait a few moments) or sprinkle into or onto other stuff..
just those, multi and an effervescent vit b guarana / c complex should have you lean and satisified and clean and powering in no time.
It's an amazing feeling to know clean.
.. and when you do, you really know the difference.
Good luck with your choices.

Blooming Lotus.
 
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Are you kidding me? All that stuff has phytoestrogens in it? I think if we're going to get nit-picky we could find something "wrong" with just about every single food out there. Just do the best you can and enjoy it for goodness sakes!

It all depends how serious you are. I don't tell you not to do things, don't bump my work ethic.
 
It all depends how serious you are. I don't tell you not to do things, don't bump my work ethic.

Um woah, I wasn't saying YOU in particular. I was saying if "we"..."people" in general tried to find something wrong with every food then we'd starve! Things you mentioned surprised me, that was ALL. Sometimes "we" have to just disregard the lesser evil in a food for a greater good like leip was saying with beans. Don't get so moody, I wasn't attacking you.
 
Neither do I really.. unless you ask and want the best answer that is.
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aanyway, I probably won't go on abut it any more after this, but I want to elaborate on the difference in clean eating and clean systems and explain why eating this way is optimum.

The moment you start eating, all sorts of reactions and toxins become present in our bodies. When it's from foods that stay in our system longer , and particularly complex carbs that cause all sorts of chemical processes asnd gene sequence activations ( remembering that complex carbs reduce to sugars and take longer to break down and eliminate and be accessible in their most simple form than certain aminos and forms of and if you can imagine the process of sugar fermentation.. and how bacteria and disease need that environment to exist and grow).
The idea behind the high protein catabolism regime Ii follow, is that yes you stil get the toxins in your blood, but by eating things that either directly counteract the toxins procued by that intake and breaking it all down into it's most simple useful state ( the chemical processes of which equally as important as the result) and by adding the elimination boost .. you get all the toxins together in your blood and in your fecal matter as soon as your body has used everything it can get out of it, after having assisted it's breakdown tooo that form, and you end up with a continual flushing of all the garbage from your body meaning your cells and blood are at their most clean much much more than aany other way of nourishment.. and because you still need need energy ( which you dOn't get from the ommited carbs, you nOw get that energy from the aminos and from the glycos.. in conjunction with covering your mineral and vitamin spectrum.) so that all you have in your system the majority of time is pure and clean fuel and blood and clear pathways for them to travel through.
Complex carbs taking too long long to break down before you get enough out of them in time with the other eliminations going on are therefore detrimental because they inhibit the elimination and change membrane integity and cell communication signal as do fat and oils..

I'm not even going to trry to convince you any further about it, but I do now have access to a world class bio-med and health science facility and no doubt that will be something that will be alot of fun to document there.

before I leave you, I want to explain that healthy cells and sympathetically organs are coated in protein enzyme .. from broken down dietary protein .. complex carborhydrates, if you've ever seen pictures of organs resulting from the different influences, cause the structure to come apart and radicals to grow and be incorperated and the protective layers holding the cell together to be interupted .

If someone dooes ever come across better science and privvy mee to it ( should it exist), then i will be the first to subscribe.

Cheers.

Blooming Lotus.
 
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^^Why I don't take flax, soy beans, tempeh, tofu, soy milk, onions, lettuce, tomatoes, red wine, & green tea.

Maybe not much one by one, but if you include everything it can add up. You do have a point though, for women probably not as big of a deal though..

That is a good point and well taken. A little added triva is Broccoli is a anti estrogen so if you are wanting some of these items and are worried about that pair it with some broccoli and you are good to go my man:)
 
LoL, I didn't know that leip. Now you know I'm gonna be eating broccoli everyday ;)

Estrogen helps (^)HDL and (v)LDL levels, causes you to retain water (various places incl. joints) and a few other effects (development of breasts etc).

Basically you want enough estrogen to keep you heart healthy, but IMO that's where I personally draw the line. I don't want anymore than that..

Obviously in women it's a tad different, and I'm unsure of the normal female range. So I won't speak on that side, although I'm sure leip could fill you in, as she continues to impress me :D
 
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