To win a BodyBuilding competition.

Your not even eating enough now to gain weight, how much do you think steroids will help if your not eating enough?

Your problem is food, you stopped making progress because you stopped eating enough for your body to grow. You are no where near your genetic potential at a measely 176 pounds, especially at 6 foot. Keep lying to yourself if you think so, and I'll laugh at you when you when you **** up your testosterone levels.

I've always seen you buy these ****ty expensive supplements like they were a magic drug, what you should have been doing was using the money to eat more eggs, oatmeal, chicken, etc.

w/e, its your body and your choice,
 
i was like 132 pounds or something when i started so i dont have the same genetic potential as others. I think at least 3/4 of the way yes.

I was 135 when I started.. so how different are we?
 
i was like 132 pounds or something when i started so i dont have the same genetic potential as others. I think at least 3/4 of the way yes.

You are not 3/4 of the way. When I started I was 5' 10.5" and 100lbs. I hit 260lbs by the end of my junior your in college and was still at 12% BF. (then, as I gained more it seemed I was less and less lean. :rolleyes: mostly diet related)

There is no way for you to know what you genetic potential is. I can say that there are times, sometimes a year or longer, where it seems like results are not happening. Then something clicks and everything starts going well again.

And lets face it, you don't even have enough experience to make any type of judgment like that anyhow.

Another thing I have noticed about guys who start using drugs at a young age is that they give up learning better ways to train. They just drug more when they want larger gains and forget that there is a lot that can be improved on their training.

So, back to the experience thing, you do not have enough experience to have found ways of training that will further increase your gains. There are a ton of training applications that should be explored before you start using drugs at 18. What worked in the past will not necessarily work in the future.

And now a story:

In college I had a training partner who was one of the most drugged up guys I have ever met. As a freshman, I was all ready to get on the program and start seeing the gains I wanted. (probably like yourself. I was 19)

My training partner said that the biggest mistake he made was going on drugs at such a young age. (16) He told me to wait until I hit my natural peak. (around 25 years of age)

So I did not go on drugs. When I was in my mid 20's I was still making gains, so I decided not to use drugs then too. After that I made some of my biggest gains in my late 20's.

No that I am in my 30's I still see no reason to use drugs. Gains are still being made and there seems to be no reason to add drugs into my life.

The point being that there is a lot that can happen in the next 12 years for you. Which brings me to -

I dont want to train for 10 years and be 30 years old when i reech the level of body that i want

Don't kid yourself. You are going to train 10 years before you get what you want. Even more motivating, you will not be where you want at that point either. That is the nature of training. Once you reach a certain level, you'll want to hit the next level.

So drugs or no, you will be training the next 10 years, at least, to get what you want. That is part of the joy of training, there is always more you can do.

Even then, your goals may change in the next 3 or 4 years, you might find something you think is totally cool to train for and change everything. It is not unheard of.

(I have gone from Olympic weightlifting, to powerlifting, to strongman, to Highland Games in the past 10 years)

I will not step off the soapbox. Just take a close look at how things work in real life before you make any major supplementation decisions.
 
Have not worked out properly for 8 weeks now:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: I fractured my thumb but i dident know and thought i just jard it. playing indoor soccer the teacher smashed the ball going for a goal and it hit my thumb. i dident do any thing for the first week and my thumb seemed to get better. I started working out on and off for the last 8 weeks expecting it to get better and finally went to the doctor about my thumb since the pain seems to be getting worse. He thinks i fractured it and i am having x rays this weekend and mite get a splint. 8 weeks down the track tho i would of expected the bone to of healed by then and i did not do any real intensive working out that caused my thumb any pain so i am ****ing pissed about this.
 
I haven't had an upper body workout for 7 weeks because I partially tore the long head of my biceps tendon and I have no idea when I'll get back to working out the top half of my bod. Initially, we thought 8 weeks, but it looks like the tear was a little more extensive because I'm still being taped up :D

Plus your body decides when you're ready, and it's usually not on your mental time line ;)

Sh!t happens when you're active/athletic, and the bottom line is you just have to deal with it. I agree that it's really annoying, and it can get you down and weigh pretty heavy on you, but I've been injured so many times, that my mantra is "Don't focus on what you can't do. Focus on what you can do."

I can do lower body workouts and cardio. And some unilateral stuff on the right side for upper body. So that's what I'm doing. Eventually, my injury will heal, and I'll get back at 'er ;)

So focus on the things you can do, and get back in the gym! :)
 
Hey mate, just found your journal and got caught up to date on it. you have made some serius progress in this year. good work, your very lean too, congrats. I see your an aussie too, even better. any idea when the thumb will be good again
 
hey lads i am trying to bulk up right noiw but need something that can help me gwet there quick then cut any help would be greatly appreciated i live in brooklyn
 
I have talked to people who started juicing at 16 and are in there 40s and say its the best thing they ever done.

I know a guy who juiced from about the age of 16. He became a pharmacist and a pilot.

He then got busted, lost all of his professional perks and jobs. He now has to get testosterone shots because his body does not produce any now.

Your young mentality preceeds you where you are predictable. You won't listen since some people told you it was the best thing they ever did.

Well, you will learn the hard way. They are illegal for a reason. It isn't because they are 'good' for you. When was the last time you attended a medical class to learn about the effects of steroids, or giving injections?

Just curious.
 
I haven't had an upper body workout for 7 weeks because I partially tore the long head of my biceps tendon and I have no idea when I'll get back to working out the top half of my bod. Initially, we thought 8 weeks, but it looks like the tear was a little more extensive because I'm still being taped up :D

Holy freaking OOOOOOOUUUUUUUCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHH!

Now I know why we're only seeing you from the butt down. ;)
 
Holy freaking OOOOOOOUUUUUUUCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHH!

Now I know why we're only seeing you from the butt down. ;)

Exactly :D

Actually, my previous avatars were shots of my shoulders and pecs, and my shoulder was taped up when I took the pics ... the bottom pic was taken in the mirror, that's why it looks like my right shoulder is taped. It's really my left :p

EDIT: Wow ... my skin sure looks pink in the top pic. That's the real color of my skin. Don't know how I got such a good tan in the bottom pic :D
 

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dude get back over here and post some workouts :D
 
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