Tired of gaining

[redddawg]

Mon-Fri I have a lean cuisine type breakfast and lunch. A banana or tangerine in the afternoon and a meal of a piece of meat and one or two steamed vegatables. I drink 1 cup of coffee each morning, the rest is water or lightly sweet tea.
Saturdays I have an egg sandwich, usually a 6 inch Subway and some hot wings that evening. Gatorade and water.
Sundays another egg sandwich. Nothing major for lunch and some type of microwaved casserole for dinner.

Mon-Fri I walk 1/3rd of a mile twice a day.
Mon-Fri I do a Power 90 routine or a Tae-Bo routine each evening. (sweat, fat burner, cardio) (45+ min)
Saturdays I play pick up soccer and an hour to an hour and a half along with yard work.
Sundays I trail bike 1-3 miles.

I eat moderate. I work out hard. Why am I getting FATTER? Don't tell me about muscle and fat weight, please. I am not on a scale, my pants fit tighter. I am tired, after 3 months of this routine to have to try to harder to button them or face the humility of having to buy BIGGER pants.

Thanks for any input.

 

[SXIPro]

Do some real strength training. Add some muscle so you constantly burn more calories, even while sleeping. Your egg sandwiches had better be on real whole wheat. Your subway sandwich is not because they don't use real whole wheat. I wouldn't eat at Subway on a dare. Coffee needs to be black. Skip the prcessed lean cuisine crap too and make your own meals so you know what's in them.

 

[redddawg]

Do some real strength training. Add some muscle so you constantly burn more calories, even while sleeping. Your egg sandwiches had better be on real whole wheat. Your subway sandwich is not because they don't use real whole wheat. I wouldn't eat at Subway on a dare. Coffee needs to be black. Skip the prcessed lean cuisine crap too and make your own meals so you know what's in them.

Ooops I left a couple of things out.
I am in a dry heat sauna 3 times a week (30 min) and on the Bowflex twice a week doing 15 reps at 20, two sets of 10 at 40 and five sets of 5 at 80 pounds resistance. (curls, reverse curls, military press, reverse military press, shrugs, bench, incline bench, upright rows, good mornings, bent over rows, leg extensions, and leg curls) I wear a size 9 glove and I can about lay my hand flat across my upper arm when flexed and can play ping pong (with lots of fat waves) with my chest and/or triceps.
Coffee is black.
Egg sandwich is on Roman Meal but I really can't see two breakfast sandwiches and one lunch sandwich a week putting me up to 260 and adding 2 inches to my waist in 3 weeks with my activity level.

 

[allcdnboy1]

try some calorie counting ... when you are struggling this hard, you might need to dig a little deeper and crunch some numbers. Normally I don't mention counting calories because I don't think most people can attune to that, but it is still a good option. In the end, it still comes down to calories-in calories-out

I've never eat those lean-cuisine type meals, but I assume they are mostly processed foods, which is like eating sugar. Increase your protein and whole grain intake so that are having more slow digesting foods ... keeps you fuller longer.

 

[redddawg]

try some calorie counting ... when you are struggling this hard, you might need to dig a little deeper and crunch some numbers. Normally I don't mention counting calories because I don't think most people can attune to that, but it is still a good option. In the end, it still comes down to calories-in calories-out

I've never eat those lean-cuisine type meals, but I assume they are mostly processed foods, which is like eating sugar. Increase your protein and whole grain intake so that are having more slow digesting foods ... keeps you fuller longer.

I can try it. The silly part is I am not a big eater at all. In a non-forcing myself to each something world I am not hungry until lunch and then again at dinner. Usually an oatmeal cream pie or an orange or a banana or something similarly sized late evening if I am hungry. I am not a snacker and drink 20 oz of water a day while at work. I don't drink colas but do have a 2 gallon pitcher of tea with 1 cup of sugar in it. I HATE this 170 calorie breakfast muffin and an orange and a banana a day along with a 350 calorie lunch but I have to do something because I am literally packing ON the inches.
It's 33 degrees here. I took my walk and come back in the building sweating. It's a healthy pace. I do that twice a day. This week I also:
Monday - 2 mile walking away the pounds.
Tuesday Power 90 sweat 3/4
Wednesday Power 90 Fat Burner
Thursday Power 90 Sculpt 3/4
and I am 30 pounds and 2 inches heavier than 2 weeks after I had my knee replaced on August 30. (2 week check back my pants were baggy and my weight was 230)

 

[SXIPro]

One CUP of sugar in your tea?? Well, there's your answer.

 

[redddawg]

One CUP of sugar in your tea?? Well, there's your answer.

One CUP in two GALLONS. I probably said cups earlier but the tea is a one 12 oz glass a day luxury.
Last week mon-fri
Breakfast - the lean cuisine muffin
Lunch meat (brat, italian sausage, bacon wrapped fillet) and steamed vegatables, primarily broc, cali, and carrots.
Daily snacks banana and orange but can't always choke them down.
Dinner - pretty much a repeat of lunch.
Minimum of 30 minutes video each evening. (walk away, Power 90 or Tae Bo) in sweat pants, sweat shirt.
1 adipex 37.5mg pill a day each morning. (prescribed)
1.5 hours of soccer Saturday.
This morning I broke the metal fastener off of a similar pair of pants that I broke the fastener out of while picking up my shows last week except this time I had to suck in my gut to put them on.
I don't drink carbonated beverages. I am not eating anything that I have not listed here. I am now on a prescription weight loss medication (explain that - here is a pill to make me not eat and they tell me to eat around 2500 calories a day minimum) and I am fatter again.
This is really frustrating.

 

[SXIPro]

You need to eat better protein. Lunch meat, sausage, bacon??? Might as well be eating Spam and Scrapple. And dump the lean cuisine.

Eat some REAL food. Hit the meat case, the fish case, the produce section. Stop eating processed garbage.

 

[redddawg]

You need to eat better protein. Lunch meat, sausage, bacon??? Might as well be eating Spam and Scrapple. And dump the lean cuisine.

Eat some REAL food. Hit the meat case, the fish case, the produce section. Stop eating processed garbage.

Earlier it was one cup of tea in two gallons of tea. Now it's one brat or italian sausage eaten with fresh steamed vegatables? I would say raw vegatables freshly steamed are REAL FOOD. I suppose the Banana and orange are next or will it be the adipex? Every post you pick out something and hone in on it, then hit with a broad statement that makes little or no sense (the processed garbage quote) but never really directly deal with the issue at hand.
I eat less and exercise more I gain inches.
I eat more and take a diet drug with the same exercise routine and I gain inches.
My diet is not that bad, especially compared to YEARS of reduced activity due to an arthritic knee and a diet that consisted of pop tarts and fast food and fried foods and cokes and the SAME PANTS SIZE for a long as I can remember until two weeks after the knee replacement. Now that I have the ability to run and bike and exercise and am trying to recover my health why am I inflating every week? It's not WEIGHT. It's INCHES and it's FAT over improving (tighter) muscle. I don't care what I weigh, I care that my clothes fit but every week they are getting tighter because I am flabbier. That's the question and I feel pretty sure it's not over a bratwurst a day for lunch when I ate for crap for years and wore a 36 comfortably and am now barely able to get into 38s.

 

[SXIPro]

Fine. I will unsubscribe from this thread. You asked for help, you got it, then you bitch about it.

If you want to stick with the processed garbage and the low quality protein along with all the sugar, feel free.

You can listen to someone who has been there and done that, or you can stay the course and suffer accordingly.

I wish you well, seriously. But there are better choices you could and should be making.

 

[rykrieg]

Ever thought about signign up at BEachbody.com for a Club Membership - that way you can get a nice diet plan from there.

But if you are like me - you do not want people telling you what to eat lol. It looks like you have the excercise down - which is great. 20 oz of water is good, but not great. try drinking at least 64 oz = 8 cups = reccomended daily dosage. Thing is - you may need to drink more due to what you sweat out on your workouts, and the amount of tea you drink. Tea is a diurettic - so it works the opposite of water and dehydrates you. Just liek coffee and soda drinks

One other thing that might help you emotionally - hop on the scale - record youur weight - then stay off of it for two weeks, and then do it again. Our weights fluctuate all the time with so many things that determining it. Dont set yourself up for the dissapointment. It is hard to stay motivated if you do.

Break out the tape measure - start measuring your neck, chest, abs, thighs, arms, etc... This is the thing you want to watch the most and set your goals on - opposed to the weight factor. Keep in mind - muscle weighs much more than fat.

One more thing - make sure you are eating enough and not putting your body through starvation mode. This is not good for weight loss, for you, or for your metabolism. Need to eat small meals throughout the day. If you are like me, you are saying "how the heck do I do that when I work through the day??" well, you just have to do it - once you get into a routine it is not so bad. Looking at it from the outside - it seems silly and not worth doing - but it does make a huge diff!!

Hope this helps a little bit. I would love to hear your progress and your goals! Keep me posted! Have a great one!! Keep that head up - you will get there.

Ryan S. Krieger
"Let's end the trend of obesity"

 

[JohnnySolo]

Sixpro has only focused on blatant issues that would ruin anyone’s diet. Cut out sugar, cut out processed foods; both are obvious problems if you are complaining about constantly gaining fat. If you are to continue bringing up blatant no-nos for eating healthy you should be thanking Sixpro for taking the time to point out the obvious to you.

As for your statement, “My diet is not that bad.”

Obviously it is bad enough. For weight loss your diet NEEDS TO BE PERFECT.

This is something I struggle with myself, daily.

 

[redddawg]

Sixpro has only focused on blatant issues that would ruin anyone’s diet. Cut out sugar, cut out processed foods; both are obvious problems if you are complaining about constantly gaining fat. If you are to continue bringing up blatant no-nos for eating healthy you should be thanking Sixpro for taking the time to point out the obvious to you.

As for your statement, “My diet is not that bad.”

Obviously it is bad enough. For weight loss your diet NEEDS TO BE PERFECT.

This is something I struggle with myself, daily.

and my question remains.

 

[redddawg]

But if you are like me - you do not want people telling you what to eat lol. It looks like you have the excercise down - which is great. 20 oz of water is good, but not great. try drinking at least 64 oz = 8 cups = reccomended daily dosage. Thing is - you may need to drink more due to what you sweat out on your workouts, and the amount of tea you drink. Tea is a diurettic - so it works the opposite of water and dehydrates you. Just liek coffee and soda drinks

Hope this helps a little bit. I would love to hear your progress and your goals! Keep me posted! Have a great one!! Keep that head up - you will get there.

I have the glass of tea at dinner. I drink water otherwise but can't tell you how much other than what I drink at work. I quit weighing after starting the month of October at 230 and being 258 last Monday when I went to the local weight loss doctor. They gave adipex (phentermine). I don't want to eat but force myself. Today it's steamed carrots and bean sprouts for long along with 1 bratwurst. Two oranges and a banana... and I blew the clasp off of my pants this morning. The harder I try the more I gain. The more active I am (that's why I had my knee replaced!) the fatter my a$$ gets. Literally.

 

[JohnnySolo]

Calories in calories out. You are taking in more calories than burning off and getting fatter. Period.

No one can answer your question, for it is something you need to answer for yourself, just like everyone here does for themselves. If you want to ignore advice but plead for an answer you are wasting everyone’s time.

Somewhere you are being dishonest with yourself. (you figure that one out, it’s not up to us.)

Good luck.

 

[redddawg]

Calories in calories out. You are taking in more calories than burning off and getting fatter. Period.

No one can answer your question, for it is something you need to answer for yourself, just like everyone here does for themselves. If you want to ignore advice but plead for an answer you are wasting everyone’s time.

Somewhere you are being dishonest with yourself. (you figure that one out, it’s not up to us.)

Good luck.

Actually, not. I have listed everything I have eaten and every activity I have done for the last two months. (I actually added a 20 minute bike ride before the video workouts) It's amazing that I am accused hiding something from myself or am not honest with myself when I have nothing to gain from that and end up wasting my time coming here being told that I do not know what I am a liar, be it in my answers or to myself.

My point of the "advice" is at first it was the lean cuisine even though enough buy them to keep them in business. Then it was a glass of tea a day, then it was a bratwurst a day and I don't eat "real" food even though two of my meals are built around steamed vegatables and my primary snack is either a banana or oranges. I don't see how 1 glass of lightly sweetened two or 1 bratwurst a day cause me to put on inches when I was NOT putting on inches when eating for crap and relatively inactive. I guess as long as the answer comes out of a cookie cutter it's all good but when it's something perhaps a little out of the ordinary it's my fault.

I gave up the fight and have bought 40s and new belts.

 

[SXIPro]

So you are a medical miracle. Calories in versus calories out does not apply to you. Awesome.

For the last time, STOP EATING CRAP. Lay off the sugar 100%. Throw out the rest of your garbage TV dinners.

If you keep the attitude that one cup of sugar laden tea or one bratwurst (they are like 50% fat) isn't gonna hurt, you are gonna be in size 48s in no time.

The devil is in the details. Every calorie counts, and every calorie should be from a real lean food source, not some freakin laboratory pumping out pre-packaged 'diet' meals.

 

[Hawkeyejw]

Hi reddawg,

I think you've gotten some really good advice here, especially from rykrieg, but the fact that a doctor gave you phentermine is actually a red flag for me. Did the doctor do any blood work? It seems like there's a lot of disjointed information presented here, but at the end of the day if you have been going with that much caloric restriction at the same time as the strenuous workout schedule you're describing, then there may be some other factor involved here that a doctor should be involved with.

If there are not other physical factors at play here, then the only advice I would add to the above is this:
1) It's hard to tell but based on your posts it sounds like you're doing some form of intense workout on a daily basis. If that's the case, there is a good chance you are actually over training. I'd try focusing on resistance training 3-4 days per week with high intensity, and make sure you are getting plenty of rest.
2) Focus on cutting any kind of simple carbohydrates from your diet - this includes white breads, pasta, rice, etc. Start adding some legumes (beans, lentils, etc) to your diet for carb load. Also, focus on eating freshly prepared meat and vegetables whenever possible.

I'm really pulling for you to start seeing some results! Please keep us posted, there are people here that are definitely willing to help you.

Jeremy

 

[magick]

Mon-Fri I have a lean cuisine type breakfast and lunch. A banana or tangerine in the afternoon and a meal of a piece of meat and one or two steamed vegatables. I drink 1 cup of coffee each morning, the rest is water or lightly sweet tea.
Saturdays I have an egg sandwich, usually a 6 inch Subway and some hot wings that evening. Gatorade and water.
Sundays another egg sandwich. Nothing major for lunch and some type of microwaved casserole for dinner.

Mon-Fri I walk 1/3rd of a mile twice a day.
Mon-Fri I do a Power 90 routine or a Tae-Bo routine each evening. (sweat, fat burner, cardio) (45+ min)
Saturdays I play pick up soccer and an hour to an hour and a half along with yard work.
Sundays I trail bike 1-3 miles.

I eat moderate. I work out hard. Why am I getting FATTER? Don't tell me about muscle and fat weight, please. I am not on a scale, my pants fit tighter. I am tired, after 3 months of this routine to have to try to harder to button them or face the humility of having to buy BIGGER pants.

Thanks for any input.

If we go exactly by what you wrote here, you would be eating roughly 420 calories from the lean cuisine meals(no idea what you're eating but I just took the calorie info from the glazed chicken dietary and used it for convenience's sake), 105 calories from your , virtually no calories from straight black coffee, and 281 calories from one piece of , and an unspecified( I would say about 200?) calories from the steamed vegetables.

If we add all this up, it comes out to 1006 calories for a single day. Now, even if we do assume that I'm missing 200-300 calories from this calculation of your single day, that would still come out at 1206-1306 calories a day... That's not enough. At all.

Given the info you've given us, you're in starvation mode. Your body is scouring every calories it can and making sure you don't die.

In short, you don't need to eat less and exercise more--you need to eat more and exercise more intensely.

 

[magick]

Apologies for the multi-post, but I decided to add some more to that post because it's very short and it turns out you can't edit after 15 minutes.

So, given that you're taking in only 1206-1306 calories, you MUST lose weight. You wrote earlier that you weight ~230lb, so you should need about 2k+ calories in order to maintain proper body function. 700-800 calorie deficit is very serious. You should be losing weight by the pounds, very quickly. Like, in a span of a month or two. That you're actually gaining enough weight to make your pants not fit means that you're not giving us all the information.

If you're gaining that much weight with 800 calorie deficit defies physiology. The only real explanation is that you're on a diet/binge situation. You typically stay on the 1200-1300 calories, thus putting your body into starvation mode and very low metabolism, and then you suddenly eat on the order of 2k+ calories in a single day. Your metabolism is too low to deal with all of those and your body simply makes them into fat.

So, you'd do well to actually eat more and make sure you stick to that amount.