Thinspiration: starvation for perfection

[Amiba]

It all comes down to avoiding extremes. Being grossly underweight is as bad (in all ways) as over. Impressionable kids may not have realised this yet - that's the problem.

I don't really think it has to do with wanting to be the odd one out but the opposite, fitting in. and it is not restricted to impressionable young minds. we are growing in a toxic environment that promotes that you have to be skinny at all costs, not healthy, just very skinny. these people just thrive to be accepted in their society, I don't think they realize they are getting to one extreme as media (schools, people in general) almost never address the problems of being underweight, mostly just overweight.
they might not know that being that skinny can actually damage your health as much as the other opposite, and if they do they believe it is better or what everyone else want. they hear of anorexia and bulimia as something distant and their efforts as a way of gaining back control.

I guess it all comes down to a series of cultural, social, personal, psychological events among other things.

 

[ChefChiTown]

I don't really think it has to do with wanting to be the odd one out but the opposite, fitting in. and it is not restricted to impressionable young minds. we are growing in a toxic environment that promotes that you have to be skinny at all costs, not healthy, just very skinny. these people just thrive to be accepted in their society, I don't think they realize they are getting to one extreme as media (schools, people in general) almost never address the problems of being underweight, mostly just overweight.
they might not know that being that skinny can actually damage your health as much as the other opposite, and if they do they believe it is better or what everyone else want. they hear of anorexia and bulimia as something distant and their efforts as a way of gaining back control.

I guess it all comes down to a series of cultural, social, personal, psychological events among other things.

I noticed that in your signature, your goal weight is 115 lbs, with a BMI of 21. That means you're, what...5' 3" - 5' 4"?

Have you ever seen a 5' 3" person who weighs 115 lbs? They're super skinny. Isn't it a possibility that you're one of those people being influenced by our "toxic environment"...???

I'm just making an observation.

 

[Shep031]

I noticed that in your signature, your goal weight is 115 lbs, with a BMI of 21. That means you're, what...5' 3" - 5' 4"?

Have you ever seen a 5' 3" person who weighs 115 lbs? They're super skinny. Isn't it a possibility that you're one of those people being influenced by our "toxic environment"...???

I'm just making an observation.

some people don't carry their weight as well as others though.

i am 5'2.5" and would not consider myself fat by any means at 125 lbs, but i just feel more comfortable at 115. i'm small height wise, but i'm not really petite by any means, so 115 lbs doesn't look super skinny on me. anything less than that though, my arms and legs get really thin, and i still carry weight around my waist and boobs...so i'd rather weigh a bit more and look proportionate with some muscle than be super wasting away skinny.

it all just depends on a persons body type and how they carry their weight. also just an observation...

 

[Shep031]

and that pro anorexia website thoroughly angers me... ughhh.

 

[PaperAirPlanes]

search "pro-anorexia blogrings on xanga" and you'll come across a TON.

I've run into ones of girls swapping tips on how to starve themselves.
It's sad.

The difference between things like anoerxia and obese is that, very few obese people encourage others to get bigger. Lots of anorexia sufferers encourage each other to starve, swap tips, support one another ego wise into thinking they're too fat. One is a psychological problem [anorexia], one isn't so much [they both are, but for different reasons]. Ones easier to say is a huge problem vs the other.

[and I have my own problems with eating, so I'm not ragging on either or, I understand both sides, a lot]

 

[ChefChiTown]

some people don't carry their weight as well as others though.

i am 5'2.5" and would not consider myself fat by any means at 125 lbs, but i just feel more comfortable at 115. i'm small height wise, but i'm not really petite by any means, so 115 lbs doesn't look super skinny on me. anything less than that though, my arms and legs get really thin, and i still carry weight around my waist and boobs...so i'd rather weigh a bit more and look proportionate with some muscle than be super wasting away skinny.

it all just depends on a persons body type and how they carry their weight. also just an observation...

That's true, but I have yet to see a 5' 3" 115 lb woman that hasn't been really skinny.

 

[Shep031]

That's true, but I have yet to see a 5' 3" 115 lb woman that hasn't been really skinny.

when i get there i will show you!! haha
...although i doubt i'm ever going to grow another half inch...

 

[Amiba]

I noticed that in your signature, your goal weight is 115 lbs, with a BMI of 21. That means you're, what...5' 3" - 5' 4"?

Have you ever seen a 5' 3" person who weighs 115 lbs? They're super skinny. Isn't it a possibility that you're one of those people being influenced by our "toxic environment"...???

I'm just making an observation.

lol I am shorter than that I have a very small bone structure too.
as I am 1.56 meters, 115 lbs is 52 kg I think, just a couple of kilos below my height. I don't think that's extreme?
I hardly ever do the conversion from kilos to lbs, I am mexican so I tend to mess those up. I think around 120-125 is just as fine, I just want to be healthy, and I don't know why the question? seems a bit off. I am not thriving to be skinny just to get to a healthy weight as I am in risk of having diabetes- half my family from both sides have.

 

[Shep031]

it just pisses me off...

"i did really good today. i ate a dill pickle today. 15 calories. that's it. now i'm dying of a hunger headache."

or something like that.

makes me want to throw some punches and knock some sense into people.

 

[ChefChiTown]

lol I am shorter than that I have a very small bone structure too.
as I am 1.56 meters, 115 lbs is 52 kg I think, just a couple of kilos below my height. I don't think that's extreme?
I hardly ever do the conversion from kilos to lbs, I am mexican so I tend to mess those up. I think around 120-125 is just as fine, I just want to be healthy, and I don't know why the question? seems a bit off. I am not thriving to be skinny just to get to a healthy weight as I am in risk of having diabetes- half my family from both sides have.

I just found a little bit of possible irony in your last post; talking about how people don't realize that they're going to an extreme, yet you want to get down to 115 lbs.

Like I said, I was just making an observation.

 

[PaperAirPlanes]

it just pisses me off...

"i did really good today. i ate a dill pickle today. 15 calories. that's it. now i'm dying of a hunger headache."

or something like that.

makes me want to throw some punches and knock some sense into people.

One girl mentioned she was weak and tired all the time...

Gee..I wonder why........

They have GOT to be aware of what its doing to their over all health!?

 

[Amiba]

I just found a little bit of possible irony in your last post; talking about how people don't realize that they're going to an extreme, yet you want to get down to 115 lbs.

Like I said, I was just making an observation.

115 is actually the ''heavy'' side of my frame- height related.
I would never want to be super skinny, so there's always the chance I will look better at a higher weight. I've never been skinny in my life so I am just following doctor's orders really. health always comes before looks.
Also I would never want to be anything less than 115 and sacrifice my beautiful curves!
does that sounds extreme to you?
maybe I am wrong

 

[Shep031]

One girl mentioned she was weak and tired all the time...

Gee..I wonder why........

They have GOT to be aware of what its doing to their over all health!?

i mean, they obviously know what it's doing...considering i read that some of them have received treatment and are back at it.

i could never ever imagine myself doing that. i love love love to eat and if i went to the store and bought all this food to binge on, there would be no way in hell i'd throw it up and waste all that money.

and i know when i wake up in the morning, i feel weak and hungry and my body is like "hey, where's breakfast?" i couldn't even imagine how weak i'd feel throughout the day if i skipped it. and then ate one pickle. i'd probably be shaking and crying by the end of day ONE i'd be so hungry.

 

[Amiba]

i mean, they obviously know what it's doing...considering i read that some of them have received treatment and are back at it.

i could never ever imagine myself doing that. i love love love to eat and if i went to the store and bought all this food to binge on, there would be no way in hell i'd throw it up and waste all that money.

and i know when i wake up in the morning, i feel weak and hungry and my body is like "hey, where's breakfast?" i couldn't even imagine how weak i'd feel throughout the day if i skipped it. and then ate one pickle. i'd probably be shaking and crying by the end of day ONE i'd be so hungry.

I totally agree!

food should never feel like a crime and I love eating too.
I just bought strawberries, whole grain bread, pears, ricotta and a lot of other goodies today. I love experimenting with cooking and I couldn't imagine myself doing something like eating 100-300 calories a day it is just not enough. I get that on snacks alone!
I think once I tried one of those crazy liquid diets.. yeah. I didn't finish day one, I was already having a sandwich by night haha

 

[stancel]

they use "2468" in their posts. that means that they have 200 calories one day, then 400 the next day, then 600, then 800, then they start over with 200.

this is also a grocery list one of them posted :

10 calorie jello
60 calorie yogurt
70 calorie cheese sticks (dairy neeed)
apple cinn. rice cakes
peaches
apples
and chicken broth

 

[KawaiiMira]

I was reading over the posts from the "Worlds Largest Pro-Anorexia" site posted on this thread and I noticed a lot of the posters on that site are on some kind of medication.

I feel sorry for those suffering from Anorexia & Bulimia.

I could never imagine eating to few calories a day. I love food (maybe a bit too much, haha). I just hate how they think they have to live up to society's standard of beauty. Society isn't right at all. I mean don't be like that one women on the telly who wanted to weight 500+ lbs, but don't go to the other extreme and want to look like a walking skeleton either.

What ever happened to eating right, exercising, and taking care of your health?

 

[Mad4Chillas]

I guess all I have to say is--that having an eating disorder is an illness...

A lot of you are being very judgmental on something you don't know very much about, and honestly its a little offending. I still struggle with these symptoms everyday and I will Never be cured.

I would just be careful on what you guys are posting, I know everyone is trying to remain objective but you have to realize its an illness and these people have issues on grasping reality (thus their seemingly crazy ideals)and sometimes wanting to "shake them" and "force them to eat" are things that unless your a professional you probably shouldn't be saying because you don't realize the strong effect it can have on someone.

I am going to school for dietetics as well as minoring in psychology to help deal with people who have eating disorders, so I know alot of information that many people don't necessarily know abou these disorders--but please just be a little more careful about what you say, because there are people on this site that deal with EDs and Im sure they dont appreciate people posting things saying they are crazy and disgusting...etc


Just trying to make a point--no offense intended

 

[ChefChiTown]

I guess all I have to say is--that having an eating disorder is an illness...

A lot of you are being very judgmental on something you don't know very much about, and honestly its a little offending. I still struggle with these symptoms everyday and I will Never be cured.

I know what you're saying, but I'm willing to bet that a lot of the people who starve themselves don't have a disorder (I'm not saying you). I've seen "normal" people starving themselves to try and lose weight and get that societally driven skinny image. You don't have to have a disorder to do what these people are doing.

Just like how not all people who drink a lot are alcoholics or just like how not all stupid people have a learning disorder.

My two cents: If you honestly believe that you'll never get better (be cured) then you'll never get the help you need. It's a self-defeating mentality to say that you'll never be cured, you know? When I still played baseball, if I stepped up to the plate thinking "I'll never get a hit", I'd probably strike out. But, I went up to the plate thinking "I'm going to get a hit", which lead to me getting a lot of hits.

You can beat this thing. A disorder isn't stronger than you; you're stronger than a disorder. Just remember that.

 

[Shep031]

I know what you're saying, but I'm willing to bet that a lot of the people who starve themselves don't have a disorder (I'm not saying you). I've seen "normal" people starving themselves to try and lose weight and get that societally driven skinny image. You don't have to have a disorder to do what these people are doing.

Just like how not all people who drink a lot are alcoholics or just like how not all stupid people have a learning disorder.

My two cents: If you honestly believe that you'll never get better (be cured) then you'll never get the help you need. It's a self-defeating mentality to say that you'll never be cured, you know? When I still played baseball, if I stepped up to the plate thinking "I'll never get a hit", I'd probably strike out. But, I went up to the plate thinking "I'm going to get a hit", which lead to me getting a lot of hits.

You can beat this thing. A disorder isn't stronger than you; you're stronger than a disorder. Just remember that.

Right on!!

 

[baglady2713]

its not only boobs, botox & lipo that they have done...

It's kind of sad when you think of how many men actually think that all women are supposed to look like Playboy sluts, er, models. What they don't realize is that 90% of those girls have had multiple plastic surgeries to look the way they do. And, even with all of the "work", 99% of them are still gross looking. BLEH!!!

I'll take a Kelly Clarkson over a Playboy model any day of the week.

playmates & other nude 'models' have been having surgery on their vaginas since the '70's to get the 'perfect' vagina.....no wonder girls heads get messed up at times...not only is there such unreal expectations of what a woman should look like on the outside...but 'down there' too??! WTF!!!


last yr there was a doc on in the uk called designer vaginas...i swear to god!!

girls as young as 18 were having procedures such as Vaginoplasty, Lbiaplasty, and Hymen Repair...for various reasons...

feeling too loose after giving birth/for cultural reasons - wanting to get revirginised!!?? or b/c some lameass of a 'BF' has commented negatively....



Vaginal Rejuvenation??? FFS!!

when it comes to looseness/after giving birth - pelvic floor exercises...simple!!
but when it comes to what a womans vagina looks like?? GTF!! unless a woman is in physcial discomfort b/c from of how she looks underneath...then NO WAY HOSE!!!!

i've never had any complaints...& i think i look perfectly fine...but whatever...i've had two babies...love me love my fanny!! or f*ck off!!
(i think i should give that talk to girls in highschools...to empower them LOL!!)

(& yes i know that for you lot in the US fanny means bum!! )