But, you are trying to compare the mental capacity of a 13 year old to an 18 year old. And, that is also unrealistic. Those 5 years of development make a HUGE difference. The similarities between a 13 year old and an 18 year old end at "they are both teenagers", but the differences are plentiful.
no I was pointing out that a 13yr old is old enough to realize they have choices and an 18yr old can stand up for themselves and make those choices. a 13yr old can make those choices too but an 18yr old is a legal adult who can get themselves out of the situation if they want. Theres a difference.
I wasnt a stupid kid, not by a long shot. I wasnt a stupid teenager. And I'm not a stupid adult. Some people just arnt. I read my entire life, including calorie books and how it allll goes together.
not every kid is going to do that, probably less then 10% of kids will even consider it. But I happened to be one of those who listened in school to health classes.
my point I'm trying to get YOU to understand is that
not every single kid is stupid Everyday there are kids who are taking on the roles of adults and getting through life, far advanced then someone else their age. They arnt stupid either.
I get what YOUR term of stupid means and I disagree. EVERYONE has something to learn yet. Whether you are 5 or 55 you arnt done learning.
What about grown adults in their 30's who know nothing about calories and good eating? Is it still their parents fault? This comes back to being 18. At 18 they were a legal adult and had every right to say "no" they can work all hours, join gyms, etc. By your statements, if an adult never bothered to even learn about good health, then that adult is stupid. why not mention that? I've met a handful of adults who cant tell you the first thing about calories and still think dinner comes in a white styrofoam box. and they have EVERY resource available to them. BOTH parties can be considered stupid. yes. but my whole damn point is that there comes an age where you have the ability to seek out how to help yourself from even bits and pieces youve learned in school. So for every kid you deem stupid and needing more knowledge, theres a handful of adults who need the same.
and why yes, I am fully aware that you can counter act by saying "well if the adult never learned, they'll pass it on to their kid" maybe so. but their kid hopefully wont be as ignorant as their parent and will actually pick up a book or search the internet or listen in school.
in todays age, everytime you go to a doctor they weigh you. then they educate you on how to stay active and to eat right, if you happen to be over what a healthy weight for you is. that mode of education starts young. and i dont know about you, but here you need physicals for everything. School. Sports. Camps. Drivers permits. Etc. There is absolutely no excuse, ever, as to why a kid should not know the basics of a healthy life. And that leads me back to, if the kid chooses to over eat, it is their fault. if they listened, to the schools, to their doctors, it is still their fault, if they continue to make bad choices.
the ONLY exception I'll ever agree with is.....if you happen to live in a bubble and someones stuck you in a dark corner. but considerin that isnt possible, that will never be an exception.
I havent denied that some kids refuse to learn, and if they refuse to learn, it is still their fault. its a no win situation. they listen and choose to over eat - their fault. they refuse to listen and over eat - their fault.
but you cant blame the parents every single time. cause not every household is the same. not every kid is the same. not all parents are the same.
Parents should re-enforce what doctors suggest and what the school says, but if your mom's been making meatloaf with mash potatoes for 30yrs, she probably isnt going to stop. she might give you a smaller portion and it'll be up to you to eat more.
& I still find it bullshit of those that say "my parents made me fat" cause they might have put you on a bad path, but once you hit 18, you, again, legally can say "no" and do what you want, within reason. MOST 18yr olds have jobs, cars, etc. they have the ability to go grocery shopping, to the gym or where-ever they want to exercise, and to educate themselves. Again, parents only have so much control, but at some point, you become an adult. And as an adult, a YOUNG adult, if you still refuse to listen about calories, then it's your fault.
Let me ask you something Rob, do YOU blame your parents for making you over weight? Or do you blame busy life styles, not enough full education about it, and the fact that you worked around food?
I'm willing to bet your answer is the second one. And that, yes, lacks education, but it is admitting that you didnt help the cause either. That being fat doesnt always mean that your parents "messed up"
Speaking of which, on the other end of the spectrum here, that no one has called light to.
What about all those skinny kids and teenagers who went off to college and started gaining weight. or moved out/married/etc who gained weight. Is it still their parents fault? (to me, nope, not the parents fault, not by a long shot. they are old enough to educate themselves, they choose not to)
heres an example. I knew a girl in high school. her parents were strict about food, as in, only good foods were allowed in the house. calories were counted on the mothers part, she wasnt obnoxiously skinny but wasnt overweight. this girl wasnt obnoxiously skinny or over weight either. if she didnt wanna finish her meal, she didnt have to. she knew a lot of about calories in vs out because of her mom. and then she went to college. where she gained a lot of weight. NOW she blames her mother. It's all her moms fault, evil evil mom. And those who dont know her mother, will believe her. yet if you meet the woman, it is painfully clear her daughter just never applied what she knew once she left the home. In that case...is it her moms fault? did her mom make her fat? (to me, she didnt. that girl never applied the knowledge given to her.)
