Spot reduction question

well, that study did not find out that adults can increase their fat cell number, quite the opposite, actually. The article you linked to certanly gave the impression that adults could make their fat cell number increase, but according the the study they are talking about, they can't.

We find that the number of adipocytes for lean and obese individuals is set during childhood and adolescence, and that adipocyte numbers for these categories are subject to little variation during adulthood. Even after significant weight loss in adulthood and reduced adipocyte volume, the adipocyte number remains the same.
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they do not rule out that adult fat cell hyperplasia, they only find that in obese adults who were obese as children, the number of fat cells were set as children. Someone should do a similar study on obese adults who got obese during adulthood to see if they might gain fat cell number

It should be stressed that our conclusions on the rates of adipocyte turnover (14C data) were obtained from studies on subjects with early onset of obesity. We cannot rule out that those who gradually gain significant weight over years in adulthood may initially increase their adipocyte size until a threshold is reached and thereafter recruit new fat cells from committed precursor cells or mesenchymal stem cells.
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both quotes from the link I provided before:

EDIT: their method was wonderfully facinating, BTW. Long story short, if it wasn't for trial nuclear bomb explosions during the cold war, we wouldn't have this information! Just goes to prove you never know what consequences an action will have.
 
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funny.... I didn't get that impression. In the small quote I posted before, it states:

"In an article published in Nature they show that adult humans constantly produce new fat cells to replace equally rapid break down of the already existing fat cells due to cell death. They also show, that overweight people generate and replace more fat cells than do lean - and that the total number of fat cells stays equal after a diet program.

I know it mentioned "diet Program" but it seemed to suggest to me that they were saying overweight people have more fat cells to begin with and therefore produce more fat cells. Also that even with dieting the numbers of fat cells remain the same regardless.

Yeah I saw the mention of the nuclear bomb explosions :)
 
I probably got suggestive to that idea when I read this post from you, which I interpreted as people can gain fat cells. Then when you provided a link I thought that was where you got all the info from. So me thinking you said fat cell hyperplasia was possible here, probably caused me to be very prone to that impression from the article.. pretty funny, since as I read it now I don't get that impression at all :D

NoLoveLost said:
actually, It has been discovered that you can produce fat cells, so even if you get them sucked out, you can get them back if you don't eat healthier or work out.

I think, if I remember correctly, That peole who get lipo will gain weight faster in other areas, but once you start producing fat cells game on....it's a free for all....lol

I also have to add, I don't think lipo is ever a solution to getting rid of fat UNLESS you workout, eat right, and have places of stored fat that are just not going away. THEN it may work for you, but I bet *most* people who workout, and eat right can get rid of that fat and aren't likely to go get lipo..........
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you know-- I have a few extra fat cells if ya'all want them to play with!

but I dont want them back.

and is there any chance we can get rid of this smily giving head to the other one! my god already!
 
Karky said:
I probably got suggestive to that idea when I read this post from you, which I interpreted as people can gain fat cells. Then when you provided a link I thought that was where you got all the info from. So me thinking you said fat cell hyperplasia was possible here, probably caused me to be very prone to that impression from the article.. pretty funny, since as I read it now I don't get that impression at all :D
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sorry, I was just suggesting that your body will replace cells, not that you will gain them.....:D :cool3:
 
dontcallme said:
I've read on here that you can't lose weight in one area. Why can you build muscles in one area but not lose fat in the same area?

Surely there are cardio exercises aimed at certain areas.
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You cannot spot reduce fat. That is a common myth and you have probably seen those adverts where a model is doing crunches on an ab machine they want to sell you. Those advertisers cash in on people's ignorance.

In reality, fat is burned from body areas in genetically pre-determined patterns irrespective of the muscles being exercised. For men, lower back fat is generally the last to be burned, with the lower legs second last; for women, it is generally the thighs and buttocks.
 
dontcallme said:
I've read on here that you can't lose weight in one area. Why can you build muscles in one area but not lose fat in the same area?

Surely there are cardio exercises aimed at certain areas.
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You can decrease your body fat - through dietary manipulation and exercise and you can lose the portion you desire---->but you don't have the choice where it comes off as you move forward with your goal, but it WILL come off--from the place you want most--if your faithful with diet and exercise.

The lower the body fat, the more the "shape and definition" of the muscle will be shown.

This is an old synopsis of many articles I have on this subject, but brings some of the main points to focus:

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Why cant we spot reduce?

This is an important question and one I'm frequently asked. You need to know a little bit of biology to understand the answer. Here's what you need to know. Fat is stored in special cells located all over your body called adipocytes. Adipocytes grow and shrink as they store and release fat, much like a balloon grows and shrinks as air is blown in and released. You gain weight when you pump up your adipocytes with fat by consuming more calories than you burn (excess calories can get stored as fat). You lose weight when your adipocytes release fat into the blood stream and shrink, either in response to exercise (exercise sends a signal to adipocytes to release fat) or when you reduce your calorie intake to the point where you are burning more than you consume. Fat released into the blood stream by adipocytes circulates to the muscles where it is burned for energy. (A car burns gasoline for energy; your muscles burn fat and carbohydrate.)

Exercise stimulates adipocytes to release fat by increasing circulation of hormones like norepinephrine (adrenaline). When norepinephrine reaches an adipocyte, no matter where in your body it's located, it signals special chemical messengers inside the adipocytes to stimulate fat release, and just like the balloon that shrinks when you let out the air, adipocytes shrink when they release fat. You will keep the fat off as long as it gets burned by the muscle and does not return to the adipocyte for storage. That's one of the reasons why exercise helps control body weight.

The reason that you can't spot reduce during exercise, which is what you are really asking, is that you don't have any control over which adipocytes release fat. Norepinephrine and the other hormones released during exercise do not discriminate. That is, they stimulate adipocytes to release fat wherever they are located. We all have patterns of weight loss and weight gain that tend to repeat (you typically gain and lose weight in the same pattern over and over), and we don't have any control over this.


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