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hello everybody,

Just to give you a little background about me:
i'm 37 years old, mother of two boys-10 and 15 years.
As a teenager a was a little overweighted, but since age of 17 i am proud to say that i only gained 4 pounds.
I don't do nothing special, no diet, no exercises, eat what i want and when i want, day or night, i'm crazy about chocolate and almost never touch fruits.
I do however, apply some simple rules on a daily basis;
never eat fast foods, snacks, hydrogenated oils, soy, white bread, margarine, and milk(only in my coffee).
whenever a can walk,i walk, i swim, dance,and i do it but only because i like it, not because i have to.
the only supplements i take are algae(chlorella and spirulina) unprocessed from a Japanese source
three things are never missing on my table: green tea, lemon and honey.

I own all this to a very good friend, who gave me those simple rules and told me that i would never have weight problems if i keep them. And so it is.

I was always amazed about others people struggle with weight, about counting calories, getting obsessed about diets and stuff like that.

Until my older son started to gain weight, 3 years ago. And he got really big.
I can't apply those rules to him, since he lives on junk food, carbonated drinks and snacks. He wouldn't touch home food, unless is fries or spaghetti. He dies for dairy. So what to do?

You know, i understood very fast that forcing him into a diet won't help. The moment he will walk out the door is all lost.
So i went to the extreme. I started a detox and colon cleanse program, three full months, no mercy.I won't tell which program, because i don't promote nothing here, there are plenty out there. I made a deal with him, or those 3 months of suffering, and then is over, or a life time of obesity and struggle to get rid of it. And he is a handsome proud boy, so we went for the 3 months deal.
All family did it with him to support him. There was almost no food in fridge for three months,only fruits, vegetable and raw meet for cooking. We didn't went out almost at all, not to be tempted. It wasn't easy at all, i can tell you that, but we all sticked to it. 3 full months.
After three months we start to introduce slowly our usual food, one at the time, every few days. But the results were amazing.He lost weight, and kept losing for few months after that. Today is a normal looking boy, not a pound more than he should weight. He slept better, focused much better at school, get rid of some (imaginary, in my opinion,) ADHD symptoms. For sure he was more calm and manageable.
Today is taking only omega3 and algae pills. Still eating the same junk, but it seems that his body can control it. Makes sport and have a girlfriend.


My wonder is how come people here don't even consider detox and colon cleanse. They are not aware of how effective it is, not only for losing weight, but for keeping it that way? For overall health?I think you should have a forum section for that and to try at least to introduce people to this option. I know there are colon cleanse forums, but those people are already aware of this tool. Here is a tremendous need for a fast, effective and sure way to lose weight, and i think that maybe some people would take the deal that my son took. I understand that diets should be long term in order to be effective, if they will be effective. But before even consider a diet, is not logical to remove all the toxins and debris, for the body to have a chance to work better in burning that fat and processing the nutrients?

Just wondering, you know. Maybe i miss something here. I am just sorry to see so many people trying so hard, when i know it can be easier.
I would still like to know if somebody is thinking like me.
All my friends that i tried to explain them how simple it was, were in shock. Three months of extreme restrain seems impossible. But how is living a life time of frustrations and blame, and no self-appreciation, and unfulfilled dreams, just because overweight? I still have to listen to all their " you don't know how it is". Of course not. Because i don't want to know how it is, i didn't want my son to know how it is. And i did what i had to do to never find out "how it is to be fat".As simple as that.
Because the principle is simple: if your body is not doing his job, something is stopping him. Remove the cause of malfunction and your body will do the rest alone. Human body is a perfect mechanism who needs only 2 things in order to function perfectly: to be nourished and cleansed. If he is not working properly ( aka store fat) then one of this conditions, or both, is not there. Do those 2 things properly and your body will be perfect. Will heal and correct himself naturally, without you having to struggle.

So this is my story. And i would be glad if at least some of you, after reading this post, will try to consider this option.If will find in it some support and encouragement.
I will stick around, so if you have something to say, or to ask, i'll be glad.

All my best to you all,
Max
 
Still eating the same junk
So no lifestye change in any way. Nutrition did not change in any way. Yet you encourage this?

. I understand that diets should be long term in order to be effective, if they will be effective.
Like your son's healthy diet of Fast food?
But before even consider a diet, is not logical to remove all the toxins and debris, for the body to have a chance to work better in burning that fat and processing the nutrients?
A good healthy diet does the same thing as a cleanse......

Maybe i miss something here.
Gauranteed you are
I am just sorry to see so many people trying so hard,
Trying hard is a good thing.
Because i don't want to know how it is, i didn't want my son to know how it is. And i did what i had to do to never find out "how it is to be fat".As simple as that.
Ever consider that you are one of the lucky ones who do not gain weight due to genetics? No one here, myself included, set out one morning to become fat.
I will stick around, so if you have something to say, or to ask, i'll be glad.

Oh joy...

All my best to you all,
Max
And to you.
 
The only thing that's missing here is that you can't be given negative reputation several times in a row.
 
As a teenager a was a little overweighted, but since age of 17 i am proud to say that i only gained 4 pounds . . . I own all this to a very good friend, who gave me those simple rules and told me that i would never have weight problems if i keep them. And so it is.

There are many people, here and on other forums, that have enjoyed being slim for most of their life and then one event or another may have made them gain weight. Might want to be real careful . . . Karma can be a bitch.

I started a detox and colon cleanse program, three full months, no mercy . . . I made a deal with him, or those 3 months of suffering, and then is over . . .

Huh? What? It's never over. There will always be food. Just because you are blessed with golden genetics does not mean he has been. Did you bother to teach him how to eat? You know that saying, "Give a man a fish, he will eat for a day. Teach him to fish and he will eat for a lifetime?" Weight loss and maintenance is no different. Forcing him to lose weight by doing what you say will not help him in the long term. You're not going to be there every single time that boy puts something in his mouth, so helping him make the correct choices would be a better way to go. Also, weight gain is not always a physical thing . . . it can have mental bearings as well. Have you checked to make sure he's not suffering from depression? He doesn't have some kind of problem or issue at school? If there is a problem there and that's not addressed, he may well continue to gain weight.

For sure he was more calm and manageable.

:confused: I thought we were talking about your child . . . not a pet.

My wonder is how come people here don't even consider detox and colon cleanse.

Wow. Just wow. (Did anyone else have a flashback of The Nutty Professor?) As with any diet, the main goal is to eat right and live a healthy life . . . and to teach our children the same . . .

" you don't know how it is". Of course not. Because i don't want to know how it is, i didn't want my son to know how it is. And i did what i had to do to never find out "how it is to be fat".As simple as that.

Yup. You know those essays you have to write in grammar school, "What I want to be when I grow up . . . ?" My aspiration was to be fat. Yay! I'm a success!




Watch that Karma, k?
 
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Yup. You know those essays you have to write in grammar school, "What I want to be when I grow up . . . ?" My aspiration was to be fat.

Whew!
Thought I was the only one that aspired to be fat....
Happy someone else admitted to it.:)
 
Whew!
Thought I was the only one that aspired to be fat....
Happy someone else admitted to it.:)

You, too, Big Guy? Well, welcome to the winner's circle! Pull up a chair to enjoy the show. You bring the drinks . . . I'll bring the colon cleansers. :D
 
ok, i'm missing something here...

Wow, i wouldn't think you would react like that, i must have said something wrong.

My point was after all to understand if some of you even consider an alternative, like colon cleanse, since it worked for me( for my son) and it seems to me an easier way to lose weight. But since you don't think so...
I was expecting answers like "i tried it but it didn't work", or "it works but is hard to do", or something like that. Never mind, i'm learning, and as they say "every kick in the butt is a step forward".

But to answer to your questions:

So no lifestyle change in any way. Nutrition did not change in any way. Yet you encourage this?

Not really, but at this age the only thing children care is to be popular and to follow the trends. Social pressure is a very strong factor; they are given pizza and hotdogs at school, every party is flooded with junk food and cola, as for a healthy diet education to drink diet drinks and lite cheeses is the peak.And of course "always eat fruits and vegetable".He eats mostly outside, and most of his friends are overweighted.At this age the society choose for him, not me.The best thing i can do is to counteract his diet by giving him supplements, and it seems to work. And i believe that with time he'll be more aware at what he needs to eat.

Ever consider that you are one of the lucky ones who do not gain weight due to genetics? No one here, myself included, set out one morning to become fat.

I don't know if is genetics, my grandmother was obese.I was overweighted as a teen, my son was.
Even if it is, i think genetics are tendencies, not destiny.
Look, if i didn't gained weight until now is not a guarantee that will not happens, i know that. Genetics are not a guarantee against age, damage that our modern food does, our crazy lifestyle. Nobody choose to become fat, is not what i want to say. I want to say that if it will happens, there is a tool to work with and to fight back. And is out there for everyone, not only for me. Personally i wouldn't discarded until try it and proved useless.
I think it was a pure luck that i found out about this exactly when i needed; i tried and it worked. Until now at least. Should i have again the same problem, i will repeat the same method, once of every three years is not too much for me. I understand there is a price to pay.
If somebody else think is worth a try, is ok, if don't is also ok.
Is all that i want to say.

I have to apologize if from my post you sensed something else. I do have respect for everybody's efforts, and my post was about an alternative method to lose weight, and my personal experience with it. If is not relevant to any of you, then just move on to the next post and forget about it.

All my best to all of you,
max
 
Wow, i wouldn't think you would react like that, i must have said something wrong.
If you had spent some time reading around this forum you'd find that we are pretty much 100 percent in favor of lifestyle changes and making a commitment to healthier lifestyles - rather than relying on quick fix methods...
 
Colon Cleansing isn't weight loss, it is detox. You can detox w/o a cleanse if you eat properly to start with. You can detox whatever crap is in your body if you start eating veggies and such, drinking water, over time your body naturally does it, no extra help necessary. I'm glad it worked well for your son, it isn't a lifestyle change though. Many of us have lost weight w/o it and have maintained. Not everyone is the same, one answer doesn't fit all.
 
If you had spent some time reading around this forum you'd find that we are pretty much 100 percent in favor of lifestyle changes and making a commitment to healthier lifestyles - rather than relying on quick fix methods...

And my doubts were about what are the chances with our present nutrition.
And i mean with all the antibiotics and hormones from the meat, all the chemicals sprayed and GM veggies, all the food colorants and stabilizers from just any food. Depends what you mean by healthy, and how easy is for you to find "healthy" food. I remember how hard it was to find sugar free products; when i started to read all the fine prints my hair stood up. Did you know that they put sugar even in bread? In meat? In mayonaze?
Commitments are just fine with me, but what are the possibilities?

I know that i can't afford to buy only organic food, nor have a great market of organic or "clean" products around. And quick fix is better than nothing.
But as busy91 said:
"Not everyone is the same, one answer doesn't fit all"

Max
 
And my doubts were about what are the chances with our present nutrition.
And i mean with all the antibiotics and hormones from the meat, all the chemicals sprayed and GM veggies, all the food colorants and stabilizers from just any food. Depends what you mean by healthy, and how easy is for you to find "healthy" food. I remember how hard it was to find sugar free products; when i started to read all the fine prints my hair stood up. Did you know that they put sugar even in bread? In meat? In mayonaze?
Commitments are just fine with me, but what are the possibilities?
Oh good lord.
And our water is poisoned with fluoride and AIDS was created in a lab for population control....
It is not that bad.
Healthy is healthy. Eating an apple or a grilled chicken breast will not kill you in the long run- eating boxed, processed crap will.
I know that i can't afford to buy only organic food, nor have a great market of organic or "clean" products around. And quick fix is better than nothing.
Quick fixes are exactly the problem.
Sustained changes need to be made. I love but cannot afford organic everything. I am not worried about it. "Clean" is a myth in my mind anyway. Unless you grow it or raise it yourself how can you be sure of anything?
 
Should i have again the same problem, i will repeat the same method, once of every three years is not too much for me. I understand there is a price to pay.

But, you see, therein lies the problem. What if he does gain again? Then does the whole colon cleansing, aura chanting thing and loses it. But gains it back a couple of years later. And goes back down. Hence the term yo-yo dieting. It is dangerous to his health. Going up and down can do lots of damage, including permanent damage to his heart. Would it not be better to teach him how to maintain the status quo and keep himself where he needs to be to be healthy?

And yes, there is a price to pay . . . but you are not the one that has to pay it.
 
Would it not be better to teach him how to maintain the status quo and keep himself where he needs to be to be healthy?

And yes, there is a price to pay . . . but you are not the one that has to pay it.

Oh, this is a bit too dramatic, don't you think?
I do teach him and explain to him, i did make him do a strong diet. I did all the 3 months diet with him.He knows what are the risks of eating what it does, but still he made his choice. My second son never had problem avoiding junk food, or reducing it. Yet.

But i also think that knowing all that and still making the wrong choices, children should learn that they will pay the price.They should learn to take responsibility for their lives. So IF it happens again, and if he'll want to do something about that, he will always have the choice. And i will always support him, but i will NOT live his life for him.

I don't know anyone who really learned a valuable lesson other from their own mistakes.
I allow my son to do mistakes, while i'm watching from the background if he needs help.
But this is another different topic,
so maybe we'll leave it for now?


Max
 
No more dramatic than:

. . . with all the antibiotics and hormones from the meat, all the chemicals sprayed and GM veggies, all the food colorants and stabilizers from just any food. Depends what you mean by healthy, and how easy is for you to find "healthy" food. I remember how hard it was to find sugar free products; when i started to read all the fine prints my hair stood up. Did you know that they put sugar even in bread? In meat? In mayonaze?
Commitments are just fine with me, but what are the possibilities?

Oh, and might want to toss the ketchup, too. There's sugar in it.
 
Organic produce is really not that much more expensive, and if you are stuck with buying produce that is sprayed, I would suggest getting an organic veggie wash. It may not be as good as the organic produce, but every little bit helps.

I don't eat meat, so I guess I can't speak for everyone. I also feed my kids organic chicken and fish. No I'm not rich (hardly). And as far as sugar goes, I think I said this somewhere else on this board, I'd rather have real sugar than senthetic stuff anyway. I don't eat a whole lot of the stuff, but anything sugar free (not naturally) is garbage and shouldn't find its way into your body anyway.
 
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