sceintists say drink more water!

Man, these scientists are AWESOME at logic!

Study has two groups of people. Group A drinks 2 glasses of water before meals. Group B doesn't. Group A loses more weight.

Ok, it seems reasonable - but then we get this: Dr Davy said replacing any artifically-sweetened drinks with water would also help people lose even more weight.

How did artificially sweetened drinks come in to a study that didn't cover them?

Oh wait! It appears that Dr. Davy actually recommended replacing high calorie beverages with water, but also said that diet sodas might help in the same way water does. Sigh. Where have all the good reporters gone?

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I drink 4-5L of water a day (I exercise in an aircondit gym, only drink there when I get thirsty, live in a city with alot of pollution and it makes me thirsty, then I go home and try not to binge...so I drink more water) been drinking my 4-5L of water a day for quite a few years now. Am probably over hydrated- notice the dizzy spells, fatigue and odema if I drink even a glass more then the above and you know what? I have not lost weight for about 5 years.

Water will not make you lose weight, dropping calories is the only way. If you drink water instead of eating then you will lose weight, but please don't be under the assumption that water does this, its calorie reduction simple as.
 
......and I'm not saying not to drink water, not by any stretch. But I've read that along with glasses of water, things like watermelon, tea, and even jello counts as water intake.

(and the jello reference comes from my time in a nursing home, jello counted as water)
 
LOL Tob, Thanks for the post! Its pretty sad that on a forum designed to help support and encourage folk on the route to e healthier lifestyle that you encounter such rudeness. The quote from the doc regarding artificially sweetened drinks does not have to have been part of the study for it to have medical significance. The doctor from whom the quote was taken is clearly from this particular field of study and in my opinion has more insight than the general public. Ho hum!
 
The rudeness was directed at Tob. It was directed right at the study that pretty much every weight loss expert/book/plan knows. If you put something into your stomach before eating and it contains 0 calories then of COURSE you will eat less because you will be fuller faster.


Does it have to be water? Nope. Anything that is 0 calories counts. I drink diet soda. That's my liquid of choice, still counts as hydration and still counts as that 'filler'.


The truth is, this isn't exactly news.
 
yummimummi said:
LOL Tob, Thanks for the post! Its pretty sad that on a forum designed to help support and encourage folk on the route to e healthier lifestyle that you encounter such rudeness. The quote from the doc regarding artificially sweetened drinks does not have to have been part of the study for it to have medical significance. The doctor from whom the quote was taken is clearly from this particular field of study and in my opinion has more insight than the general public. Ho hum!
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hah I agree but what are you going to do. The content is well known by people but i have never really read it presented in such a way as this... a study.
 
TOB...I dont' have a problem with your posting a "well known" ideal. If it helps even ONE person, than it is totally worth it! Maybe you're post will help someone who is new to the weight loss world.
 
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Tob said:
wow, sorry for sharing.
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You shouldn't be sorry for sharing. You shouldn't be sorry for anything.

It's just that what you posted was something that people here have heard over and over and over again. And, in all honesty, the information contained within that article is common sense. Of course people who drink water instead of soda are going to lose more weight than people who drink soda all the time. To me, and to a lot of other people, that's just common sense.

So, don't take Jeanette's comments as being directed at you, because they weren't. They were directed at the article and the study that was done - a study, mind you, that pointed to results which 99% of us here consider common sense. So, don't take it to heart.
 
well see i know i should be drinking water but i never thought about drinking two glasses of water before each meal. or how well that would work.
so i posted it because it was relevant to this board. had no idea this would happen but hey at least people are talking!
 
Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that Tob shouldn't have shared. I just get frustrated with lousy journalism.

The doctor said that drinking diet soda instead of water before meals should help just as much. And yet the journalist says the exact opposite - that you could lose even more weight by drinking water instead of diet soda.

There's already enough bad information out there, we don't need someone adding more of it on to a good study.
 
Jeanette401 said:
Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that Tob shouldn't have shared. I just get frustrated with lousy journalism.

The doctor said that drinking diet soda instead of water before meals should help just as much. And yet the journalist says the exact opposite - that you could lose even more weight by drinking water instead of diet soda.

There's already enough bad information out there, we don't need someone adding more of it on to a good study.
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oh well, i am new i just wanted to share something to kinda break the ice.
i guess i should have screened it better.
 
No problem, I wasn't upset with you for sharing it, I just have a pet peeve about bad logic - sorry you got caught in the crossfire!

And welcome to the boards :D
 
Jericho said:
...what?



Science please!
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I thought i posted this already but its not here... so here it is again.





when i was in track they always told us to drink warm water because it goes into your body faster making you hydrated faster.
the reasoning is because your body doesn't have to warm. i think this is what he was getting at.
 
Tob said:
I thought i posted this already but its not here... so here it is again.





when i was in track they always told us to drink warm water because it goes into your body faster making you hydrated faster.
the reasoning is because your body doesn't have to warm. i think this is what he was getting at.
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Just to play Devil's advocate here...

If you are "supposed" to drink slightly warm water, because it absorbs into your body faster and hydrates you faster than cold water, than why are you given ice chips when you are dehydrated? Yes, part of it is so you don't sit there and chug huge amounts of water (as the slowly melting ice prevents you from taking in water at too fast of a rate), but if the point is to hydrate you as quickly as possible, then wouldn't they give you warm water to sip on?
 
Our bodies do not expend calories when absorbing cold water. In order for water to hydrate the body, it need not be at room temperature, or even at the same temperature as our bodies'. As a matter of fact, the American College of Sports Medicine's Position Stand on Exercise and Fluid Replacement states that fluid needs to be cooler than ambient temperature, meaning between 59 – 72°F. Colder fluids leave the stomach more quickly than warmer ones, allowing faster rehydration.



In terms of weight loss, ice water is minimal calorie burning. The point I was asking about was the warm water part which isn't validated.
 
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