realworksuks vs [Focus] - "LIKE DONKEY KONG, SON!"
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Is he still missing?
No, but I could ask DW if you like? If she's not presently mad at me, that is. I honestly can't recall, but half my favorite people usually are at any given time. :sport2: I assume if anyone would know, it would be her.
Anyway, I do hope you're doing well Drexatron, wherever you are. You're my class act bb. <3
What's uhhhhpp, Chillen. Also, ty sir. I was gonna say hi to you before I had to run off yesterday. Looking forward to seeing your bulk results. Best wishes to you and yours as well, of course.
But, but, I only ever say things that are kind and good and true. You know who else they crucified. Haha.
Glad to see you're still around. I shall be sure to check up on whether you are doing well or being a bum and scold you fiercely either way.
Waiting for you to get banned. I guess I gave up. :bncry:
Tell your sheep I said,
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Is he still missing?
No, but I could ask DW if you like? If she's not presently mad at me, that is. I honestly can't recall, but half my favorite people usually are at any given time. :sport2: I assume if anyone would know, it would be her.
Anyway, I do hope you're doing well Drexatron, wherever you are. You're my class act bb. <3
What's uhhhhpp, Chillen. Also, ty sir. I was gonna say hi to you before I had to run off yesterday. Looking forward to seeing your bulk results. Best wishes to you and yours as well, of course.
Wow Focus I thought you died or something. Or possibly got banned. Never know with some of the stuff you come out with
But, but, I only ever say things that are kind and good and true. You know who else they crucified. Haha.
Glad to see you're still around. I shall be sure to check up on whether you are doing well or being a bum and scold you fiercely either way.
Waiting for you to get banned. I guess I gave up. :bncry:
Tell your sheep I said,
http://i41.tinypic.com/311m1xk.jpg
Glad to see you're still around. I shall be sure to check up on whether you are doing well or being a bum and scold you fiercely either way.
I've been very good! Check out my new journal and my new photo gallery update. I am a mighty force to be reckoned with
So nyeh!I've been very good! Check out my new journal and my new photo gallery update. I am a mighty force to be reckoned with
me: :bncry: everyone else: :laughing2:
So I'm thinking when I switch gyms here I'll get back to the journalling. more my thoughts and experiences than a blow-by-blow of what I'm doing. I have scripts and fancy gadgets for that. Maybe revive the consistency one, if rws or drex doesn't show up by then.
I'm actually kinda.. ehh on this. There's a park right across the street where I've been doing some pretty fun hanging from and jumping on stuff, but I don't like folk looking at me like I'm some sort of a mo because I'm "behaving suspiciously" near the monkey bars. Also really wanna get my buddy involved, now that he may be willing. I'm still almost totally self-motivated but it's still fun to have someone along, and I know his parents would appreciate it, y'know, aside from his own good.
I'm actually kinda.. ehh on this. There's a park right across the street where I've been doing some pretty fun hanging from and jumping on stuff, but I don't like folk looking at me like I'm some sort of a mo because I'm "behaving suspiciously" near the monkey bars. Also really wanna get my buddy involved, now that he may be willing. I'm still almost totally self-motivated but it's still fun to have someone along, and I know his parents would appreciate it, y'know, aside from his own good.
ROTFL!!
Its good to see your humor is in tact, Focus.
Best regards,
Chillen
I like to think I'm usually man enough to recognize those situations in which I got told. =P
But round 4? (or is it 5?) is officially on. And it's pretty much the last one, I think. I really don't believe there would have been so many if I wasn't so obsessed with experimenting, but, I'll leave that for my commentary on my progress pics.
Anyway, it's been about a week since I got back to a stricter adherence to my target deficit. Currently sitting at about 190 lbs and 16.5% bodyfat (that's almost exactly 10 lbs less fat and 3 lbs more lean mass than I was at in September - I seriously can't avoid putting on muscle, haha, but I'm also done with being concerned about it).
Calories are still "way too low" (round 800-1200 a day, ~85% protein, rest is trace carbs and healthy fats - I include things like fish oil, BCAAs and cla in my calorie total), but honestly, guys, it's totally clear by now that I'm one of the very few people who actually does have an efficient metabolism. If the velocity results (though the pictures were admittedly ****ty - as I said, someone had changed the preset on me and I didn't notice :bncry: - it was clear there sure as hell wasn't a "grind yourself to the bone" difference and that simply eating half as much as that and whatever will always be effective) didn't convince you, I don't think anything will. 20-30% less ("rmr" + activities) is maintenance for me. I ain't making this **** up it's been a few years, a couple hundred lbs back and forth, and the only times I've seen results appropriate to the level of effort expended is when I've "starved" myself. I think that's why I found velocity a lot easier than it was supposed to be, to be honest. It sure wasn't my superhuman discipline. I'm keto right now (strict, no periworkout nutrition for 2 months) because I decided I'd like to give it a proper shot. But the major difference here is that I am eating a ton of empty bulk in the form of green veggies and psyllium husk. Lotta chicken atm since I'm still put off on beef from a couple of 3 month rounds where that was my main source of protein. Oh, and I'm staying away from pork products because a) it's hard to accurately assess the calories in some of them and b) they make me feel all sluggish, even when I'm "supposedly" not eating much.
I have a very good feeling about where I'm at now in terms of my knowledge (of self, mostly) and ability to put it into action. My version of "falling off the wagon" now is a couple weeks of eating at maintenance (I hardly even want junk food anymore - I've managed to successfully associate pain with unhealthy food!) to restore my mental energy. I think you can all expect some inspiring progress photos from me by march.
Hope everyone's having a lovely weekend. I be doing lots of downhill skiing. Gotta put all this cold to some use am I right?
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Ross Enamait's "Never Gymless"
I just put in an order for this, after I had remembered I'd been meaning to for a while.
I like Ross, and I hear it's the best bodyweight training manual there is, so, I'm curious. I think I'll do a review later.
I talked to my buddy and I honestly think he's too flaky for me to drag him along, plus I wanna build all the toys and stuff he (Ross) has on his website (rosstraining.com). Seems so much more my style than going to a commercial gym.
I so excite.
I just put in an order for this, after I had remembered I'd been meaning to for a while.
I like Ross, and I hear it's the best bodyweight training manual there is, so, I'm curious. I think I'll do a review later.
I talked to my buddy and I honestly think he's too flaky for me to drag him along, plus I wanna build all the toys and stuff he (Ross) has on his website (rosstraining.com). Seems so much more my style than going to a commercial gym.
I so excite.
Yo Yo everyone!
well, an update on me:
basically I got diagnosed with MS and was getting all numb from weight lifting... so I took a couple of weeks off.
During those couple of weeks off I decided to "eat whatever I want" to preserve muscle tissue.
Heh, well I gained a bunch of fat tissue.
I got back into the gym after a couple of weeks but I had lost a ton of strength and size, lots of lifts downright hurt to do.
But, eventually after maybe another two weeks I could lift pain free, all the numbness went away.
I really wanted to lose some of the fat that I gained so I kept "cutting" but really I was slacking off wayyyyyyyy too much and took forever to make any progress.
I posted some pics a while ago that ended up looking pretty good, but it just took way longer than it should have.
I decided to bulk for four weeks... that just ended a week ago.
I gained quite a lot of weight, I said 15 pounds before, but now that I have stopped eating so much food it's actually more like a 7-10 pd gain I think.
I had planned to cut for two weeks and then bulk for four... and just keep repeating that until i'm..... well dead basically.
Ha, well I just hate the torture of cardio so much that I am slacking on the cut again! BAH! Well, I think I will start on Tuesday. That wouldn't be too bad..
I have made some positive things happen though, mainly vascularity. I am seeing a lot of veins coming in around my shoulders and arms, I love it.
But... yeah, I gotta find a way to either stop gaining so much fat while bulking or stop losing so much muscle while cutting.
c'mon chillen, how do ya do it?
well, an update on me:
basically I got diagnosed with MS and was getting all numb from weight lifting... so I took a couple of weeks off.
During those couple of weeks off I decided to "eat whatever I want" to preserve muscle tissue.
Heh, well I gained a bunch of fat tissue.
I got back into the gym after a couple of weeks but I had lost a ton of strength and size, lots of lifts downright hurt to do.
But, eventually after maybe another two weeks I could lift pain free, all the numbness went away.
I really wanted to lose some of the fat that I gained so I kept "cutting" but really I was slacking off wayyyyyyyy too much and took forever to make any progress.
I posted some pics a while ago that ended up looking pretty good, but it just took way longer than it should have.
I decided to bulk for four weeks... that just ended a week ago.
I gained quite a lot of weight, I said 15 pounds before, but now that I have stopped eating so much food it's actually more like a 7-10 pd gain I think.
I had planned to cut for two weeks and then bulk for four... and just keep repeating that until i'm..... well dead basically.
Ha, well I just hate the torture of cardio so much that I am slacking on the cut again! BAH! Well, I think I will start on Tuesday. That wouldn't be too bad..
I have made some positive things happen though, mainly vascularity. I am seeing a lot of veins coming in around my shoulders and arms, I love it.
But... yeah, I gotta find a way to either stop gaining so much fat while bulking or stop losing so much muscle while cutting.
c'mon chillen, how do ya do it?
RWS, tell me what you want to know, and I will spell it out in detail for you. If you and your partner in the journal do not mind.
I will be willing to provide any information you want. Additionally, if you give me your E-Mail, I will give you some good reading material.
Dependent on what you want, be prepared for a long post (s). I will try to keep it as concise as I can.
Best regards,
Chillen
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I had a post all written up, but then I had to go and accidentally closed all of my firefox tabs. :bncry:
But yeah, yeay, rws.
Uhm, basically what I said was something about just finding ways to not make it the sort of thing you have to force yourself to do. Find something fun! Or, failing that, a good (long-term) distraction.
When I'm biking indoors, for example, I watch movies on my laptop or listen to books on tape (my favorite! fiction or not, I find it really soothing - like being read to as a child hahaha), or whatever you can figure out. Maybe join a local pick-up league of some sort (just not basketball imo - too likely to get broken), or take up cross country skiing. Just anything that you can start small at and stick with. I think that's been our problem, the both of us (in addition to oh almost everyone else haha), too much too soon, and not quite being consistent enough.
My first thought was you should try an hour of brisk walking fasted in the mornings and see what that does for ya. Shouldn't be hard to keep up, should it? ****, I can walk and read at the same time, even outside in the snow and ice, but I'm sure you could just use the treadmill or pace back and forth, haha, or whatever. Whatever, right? ' Until.. well, I die', haha. I loved that.
Just, anything to stick to. And, of course, as C Unit says, get explicit and I'm sure all sorts of folk can offer helpful suggestions. I just think the main thing will be pick something you enjoy and make it an everyday thing, even when bulking. Not y'know actually every day I think a day or two of real rest a week is important but you know what I mean.
Anyway, good to see you back, my brother. I was getting lonely.
But yeah, yeay, rws.
Uhm, basically what I said was something about just finding ways to not make it the sort of thing you have to force yourself to do. Find something fun! Or, failing that, a good (long-term) distraction.
When I'm biking indoors, for example, I watch movies on my laptop or listen to books on tape (my favorite! fiction or not, I find it really soothing - like being read to as a child hahaha), or whatever you can figure out. Maybe join a local pick-up league of some sort (just not basketball imo - too likely to get broken), or take up cross country skiing. Just anything that you can start small at and stick with. I think that's been our problem, the both of us (in addition to oh almost everyone else haha), too much too soon, and not quite being consistent enough.
My first thought was you should try an hour of brisk walking fasted in the mornings and see what that does for ya. Shouldn't be hard to keep up, should it? ****, I can walk and read at the same time, even outside in the snow and ice, but I'm sure you could just use the treadmill or pace back and forth, haha, or whatever. Whatever, right? ' Until.. well, I die', haha. I loved that.
Just, anything to stick to. And, of course, as C Unit says, get explicit and I'm sure all sorts of folk can offer helpful suggestions. I just think the main thing will be pick something you enjoy and make it an everyday thing, even when bulking. Not y'know actually every day I think a day or two of real rest a week is important but you know what I mean.
Anyway, good to see you back, my brother. I was getting lonely.
Oh, and guys, I've decided I'm gonna see if I can't add a mile per hour per week to what I call my "cruising pace", which is currently 21 mph. Cruising means I can do it pretty much indefinitely and without really paying attention (except for the arches of my feet starting to hurt after the first hour if I don't make sure to maintain "full sweep" - by which I mean my feet are "flat against the pedals" and I press powerfully against them instead of just kinda letting my legs float through the latter half of the motion, I'm honestly not sure if I'm using the term correctly, I'll check later). After that I'll add to duration rather than speed at 10% a week, ideally.
The idea being that by the end of Feb I will be able to cruise at 25 mph for an hour without my feet hurting, and by the end of April I'll be able to do 2 continuous hours at 25 mph.
I can always push through it, the foot soreness it's just.. unpleasant. I wanna save both the mental pushing and the real physical effort for the last quarter of the half-thon, where I figure I'll surely need it.
Ambitious, I know, but I also think it's fairly manageable. Keep in mind that I can already do around 45 miles in 2 hours, fasted in the morning. It's just a matter of getting to being able to do it without the accompanying unpleasantness.
May, June and July will then be devoted to getting an actual road bike and translating that to the real world. Rates are corrected for what they would be outside on a real bike, theoretically, but I'm not so deluded as to think I don't need tons of practice just being out there. I would be, already, if everything wasn't iced over. I saw some brave soul skidding around out there yesterday but given my history with outrageous flying over handlebars style bike crashes I don't think that's such a good idea for me personally. XD
Anyway I just wanted to get that down to reassure myself (and maybe others) that I do have plans. I fully intend to actually go to this thing ff made sign up for, and not just complete. None of this sleeping through it ****, haha. And I've got some ideas on swimming, too, and am stating here for the record that I will implement them by March. Okay, good talk. =P
The idea being that by the end of Feb I will be able to cruise at 25 mph for an hour without my feet hurting, and by the end of April I'll be able to do 2 continuous hours at 25 mph.
I can always push through it, the foot soreness it's just.. unpleasant. I wanna save both the mental pushing and the real physical effort for the last quarter of the half-thon, where I figure I'll surely need it.
Ambitious, I know, but I also think it's fairly manageable. Keep in mind that I can already do around 45 miles in 2 hours, fasted in the morning. It's just a matter of getting to being able to do it without the accompanying unpleasantness.
May, June and July will then be devoted to getting an actual road bike and translating that to the real world. Rates are corrected for what they would be outside on a real bike, theoretically, but I'm not so deluded as to think I don't need tons of practice just being out there. I would be, already, if everything wasn't iced over. I saw some brave soul skidding around out there yesterday but given my history with outrageous flying over handlebars style bike crashes I don't think that's such a good idea for me personally. XD
Anyway I just wanted to get that down to reassure myself (and maybe others) that I do have plans. I fully intend to actually go to this thing ff made sign up for, and not just complete. None of this sleeping through it ****, haha. And I've got some ideas on swimming, too, and am stating here for the record that I will implement them by March. Okay, good talk. =P
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RWS, I have the exact same issue as you. When I bulk, sure I make some great gains, but I always gain too much damn fat. I keep my cals just barely over maintenence, but it doesn't matter. It's like I will be stalled on gains, won't be gaining weight, so I up cals by 100-200, and I shoot up 3-5 pounds and gain fat. ****ing frustrating.
Then when I cut, I lose so much strength. It always takes so long for me to cut because I slack, don't eat right, yada yada...
Then when I cut, I lose so much strength. It always takes so long for me to cut because I slack, don't eat right, yada yada...
Yeah no **** man! I guess the only difference is that I don't monitor my food intake too much while bulking. I use to have a lot more disipline a year ago. Everything in my diet was like perfect and completely monitored, recorded it all.
But yeah, while cutting too, I guess it's just getting mentally harder to want to cut... I don't keep track of the food very well at all, and I have trouble with the cardio. Or.. actually just getting off my ass and doing it i mean..
I think your right though Focus.. I gotta find something I like so I won't hate doing it so much..
too bad there isn't a realistic sex simulator video game or something... lol
np my little japanese buddy in ontario has an android for that
gimme 10 years and ill have it able to do all that kinky **** you keep telling me about =D
So I had a go at the scale this morning (the surprisingly accurate [talking being as accurate as skinfold testing 3/3], for me and probably no one else haha, Tanita) and I apparently only have 30 lbs of bodyfat now (@ 15%).
So 6 months of what I'd rate as about 50% (consistency, in adherence to diet) looks like this:
+18 lbs LBM
-20 lbs fat
Come to think, that's really not too bad. Why should I expect greatness from what isn't even a passing grade, right? I can do way better.
My goal for the next 6 is pretty simple: see if I can't make the next 6 at least twice as good with 90% adherence. I'm almost certain of success, provided I can stick to it. Which I'm also almost certain of.
In March I'll put up my one year @ ~ 50% pics, 'cause 'bout the furthest back I have is last year about a month and a half after the start of the contest where I had actually made probably the most visible gains of the whole period. I figure it'll be a fair comparison.
rws, have you ever picked a plan in advance and just stuck with it? Eating mostly the same meals all the time (not same in terms of what, but in terms of type and combination -- like you might have chicken breast and say broccoli one time and lean ham and kale another, if you were doing keto)? I find it super convenient because you can plan and balance everything and then not have to worry about it on a daily basis because it's about the same every time. That way you need only do two things: 1) stay on diet, 2) evaluate progress and adjust every 2-4 weeks, instead of every 15 minutes like too many of us do. XD
It need not be keto (or whatever might make you feel deprived - iirc for you keto was pretty enjoyable for the most part, it's me who feels like crap on it but still wants to give it a proper try... and is debating the near-total lack of wisdom involved), necessarily. I personally have always had the best success (because I felt the best, I suspect, but also in terms of fat loss) eating a diet high in protein and natural sugars. Just like a bear - meat and berries. Haha. Which diet did you feel the best on? How can you tweak it so that it'll give you good results and be easy to stick with? Same as with the exercise, right? If it's not something you "have" to do yet, make it something you want to do.