Quick Full Body & Split Routine Question

I understand that it is good for beginners to do full body workouts.

But then people who are more advanced do split routines.

What are the main advantages of a split routine.

e.g.
If I was to do:
Monday: Chest + Triceps
Wednesday: Back + Biceps
Friday: Shoulders + Legs

rather than fullbody 3x a week.

Why? Because that would mean my chest, back etc would only get worked out once a week rather than 3 times if I did full body.

Can someone enlighten me?
 
personally i would probobly never do a split nomatter how advanced i became.
One argument for bodybuilders is that when you dont really want to gain size all over, but at certain places, it can be good. You are allowed to prioritate some muscle groups better and give them more attention. Lets say your quads are lagging behind, you are not in proportion. Then you could prioritate them and work them hard, and work to just maintain size in the other muscles so you get proportional
 
Yeah that is kinda what I thought.

I was talking to this guy who used to BB in the gym and he said I would be better off doing a split routine.

I didn't ask him why because I forgot and he had to leave in a hurry.

But in theory, I don't understand, I could train my shoulders 3x a week doing a FBW but then only once a week if i did a split
 
I understand that it is good for beginners to do full body workouts.

But then people who are more advanced do split routines.

What are the main advantages of a split routine.

e.g.
If I was to do:
Monday: Chest + Triceps
Wednesday: Back + Biceps
Friday: Shoulders + Legs

rather than fullbody 3x a week.

Why? Because that would mean my chest, back etc would only get worked out once a week rather than 3 times if I did full body.

Can someone enlighten me?

The rationale for going to a split routine is based on intensity - at least in my opinion. Muscles have to be overloaded in order to be stimulated to grow. Now, since your muscles adapt to overload by growing stronger and bigger, if you want to see further and sustained improvements in strength and size you've got to increase the intensity of your workouts. And you can increase that intensity by adding exercises, adding weight - and / or both.

The reason most beginners are told to stick with a 3X a week full-body workout for 3- 6 months is that this represents a learning curve in terms of intensity. You're ' learning ' how to do the exercises properly without going too hard so you learn good form. But you're also learning how to get your central nervous system to recruit as many muscle fibers as possilbe each time you lift a weight. Evidence your central nervous system is clueing in to what is going on ( i.e it uses more and more muscle fibers ) is plainly seen by the fact that most newbies make thier biggest gains in the first 6 months to a year of stsrting training. Maxing out as many muscle fibers as you can means you can work out with greater intensity in my books. But as I said above, you can easily increase that intensity by adding exercises, adding weight - and / or both in a 3X a week workout. Trouble is, to do that with a 3X a week full-body workout means the workout may become longer and longer and longer and that you may have to maintain a increased level of intensity for a much longer time - which may not be possible ( i.e you'll be exhausted !:) ) And for me at least, I want to spend as little time in the gym as possible.....I want the maximum gains in the minimum amount of time. But, that's just me.:)


So, within this context of intensity, the basic reason ' splits ' are used is because you can add more overload by adding more exercises for each muscle group, and in turn, this means you can train at a higher intensity which means your workouts will ( more than likely ) become shorter. In essence your workouts don't become longer under splits - just harder. So even though you might train a muscle 3X a week as part of a full-body workout regimen, in a split regimen, it might only get the muscle trained 2X a week. But now, it is trained at a higher level of intensity and overload at 2X a week which means it also gets 2 days rest to recover under a split regimen- rather than the 1 day rest you get under a 3X a week regimen.
 
Never say Never. I have eaten my words repeatedly because of that word.

There are many reasons for a split routine. Most advanced athletes and trainers use it simply because it is more efficient, allows for more training days per week, and specialization on lagging areas in order to prevent injury.

Also a split routine allows for the training of different attributes for the same muscle groups in the same day. Like doing power exercise first. Followed by standard weight training (5 - 15 reps, 3 - 6 sets). Followed by exercises to increase the work capacity of the areas being trained. Due to time constraints this is not possible with a FBW.

For example a sprinter might do their speed training. Then hit squats and a couple other leg exercises, and do mobility and work capacity on smaller muscle groups in their legs to help to prevent injury and speed recovery time. That does not leave much time for upper body, unless it is done on another day.

Not to mention that if some people had to bench and squat in the same day those would be the only 2 exercises done because warming up and getting to heavy work might take 30 min for each exercise.
 
Right I understand a little better now.
Great Advice btw,
Another reason why I asked this is because my routine has gotten into a mess and I think I need to start all over again.

I have been working out for about 3 months now.
Doing full body workout with dumbells at home for the first 2 months and then joined a gym and sold the weights because I maxed out the weight I could put on the DB's
Only just started doing deadlifts, my lower back was ****** after them lol I could tell that they have been working well.

Should I stick to 3 fbw a week or change it?
I also would like to keep my time in the gym to a minimum (not because I am lazy) because if I am in there too long I start to burn out and get tired
 
i would stick to fbw until u have 100% knowlage about split if its working for u why change? just play around with reps set etc (u know youre body)personaly i would never do a split but thats me. enjoy youre self be happy its nothing if you dont enjoy it
 
Right I understand a little better now.
Great Advice btw,
Another reason why I asked this is because my routine has gotten into a mess and I think I need to start all over again.

I have been working out for about 3 months now.
Doing full body workout with dumbells at home for the first 2 months and then joined a gym and sold the weights because I maxed out the weight I could put on the DB's
Only just started doing deadlifts, my lower back was ****** after them lol I could tell that they have been working well.

Should I stick to 3 fbw a week or change it?
I also would like to keep my time in the gym to a minimum (not because I am lazy) because if I am in there too long I start to burn out and get tired

I would stick with a FBW for the forseeable future.

It gives you some time to develop a ' groove ' with barbells and compound exercises.
 
Okay I will carry on for a few more month with 3 FBW a week

Then maybe after my holiday in July (i will see how everything goes) I might change things around depending on my progess, plateaus etc
 
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