Question about chest and rear delt flyes and pullups grip.

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Karky

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Is it better to do chest and rear delt flyes on a cable thingy instead of with weights? since with weights, at the top of the chest fly you got almost no resistance and at the bottom beginning of the movement on rear delt flyes you also got almost no resistance.
also, on rear delt flyes should you keep your shoulderblades retracted?

And with pullups, you can grip overhand, underhand, or with palms facing eacother, whats the difference? Does underhand hit the back more? When i do overhand i know my arms fatigue quicker, spechally the forearms. so whats the difference?
 
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err, not lat rises, rear delt raises, something like these:

I get what they say in the article, but wont using the cables instead of just different body possitiones when doing it be more effective? since you will have resistance in the entire rom.
 
I like to do them on a pec dec for the exact reason you said, I feel it more too. It's all opinionated, I also put bands on the weight stack to help keep tension and F'up momentum.
 
what about when you do chest flyes with cables, bringing youre hands together high or low, whats the difference? I overheard a trainer at the gym saying that if you go high, it will hit high up on the chest and if you go low it will hit low on the chest. But i also remember reading somewhere that you can isolate different parts of the Pec, since its all one muscle, it will grow the same way and theres nothing you can do to make it grow more on the upper part than the lower part or visa versa..
 
You can't isolate different parts of the chest, but it does allow you to work the different directional grains of the muscle since the pec is a convergent muscle... It's best to use whatever works for you, whatever makes you stronger fastest. For me it's a combination of all 3, straight out, tilted up, tilted down.. but I'm going for size.
 
I could probobly vary it, or i could try some time with each and see what gives me best gains?
and with the flyes im just trying to make some size gains too. I do bench also ofcource, rep range of about 6-8 one day and a pyramid of 8,6,4,2 the other day.
 
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yeah thanks, really just want to add some size to my scrawny body right now :p spechally the shoulders, chest and upper back area.
 
snatch-grip deadlifts are a good alteration you can try to put a little more emphasis on your delts...

if you're using a heavy enough weight, this can really help your forearms also, just from gripping the bar.
 
yeah, i know... though ive been hit by a car and some knee ligament or something snapped in two, so i kinda cant bend my knee right now or put too much pressure on the foot, so i can only do upperbody stuff :(
which sucks, cuz i cant do cleans or snatches.
 
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