purposely going catabolic?

[Phate89]

You should, that's why I'm saying.

It would be better to have no carbs with fat. But if you had to eat some, lower GI/II carbs would be ideal.

Oh, sorry. I meant why can't we have carbs and fat together.

 

[[Focus]]

Pancreas, that's a type of chili pepper, right?

It looks delicious.

 

[i_love_muscle]

Keeping fats and carbs away from each other leaves high insulin levels away from fats. High insulin leaves you more likely to store any nutrient, protein or fat. Which is why (one reason) you have carbs with your protein for PWO. But low(er) insulin levels while digesting fat leaves the body more likely to perform beta-oxidation.

Gotcha

You've restarted the chemical centre in my brain. I'd forgotten all that stuff!

 

[i_love_muscle]

Pancreas, that's a type of chili pepper, right?

It looks delicious.

I thought it was a venereal disease. Crap. I could have been eating this?

 

[i_love_muscle]

Pancreata and a predetermined insulin response are overrated

You're right, Mreik. Playing with needles is a lot more fun

And I get to use my awesome math skills to calculate my insulin amounts, too

 

[realworksuks]

The brain does use 75-100g a day, but that is spread throughout the entire day so it just needs a constant feed (and will use your glycogen stores if you don't eat enough carbs). .

So the brain doesn't start to use ketones until all glycogen is depleted???

As for PWO, I would try to get 60-80g of carbs depending on your entire day, and calorie intake. But if you're cutting, you've got to remember that your glycogen stores shouldn't be full, so it's an entirely different strategy.

So, 60-80g of carbs should refill glycogen stores after a typical full body workout?


Also, why shouldn't glycogen stores be full while cutting? What type of pre and post workout meal would be a good strategy while cutting? Should we try to get an insulin spike post workout at all?

 

[realworksuks]

Just so that I don’t forget to ask this later..

A lot of people talk about HIIT being muscle wasting. Why would the body burn muscle during HIIT? Would it start to burn muscle even if there is glycogen available?

 

[Hoss]

So the brain doesn't start to use ketones until all glycogen is depleted???





So, 60-80g of carbs should refill glycogen stores after a typical full body workout?


Also, why shouldn't glycogen stores be full while cutting? What type of pre and post workout meal would be a good strategy while cutting? Should we try to get an insulin spike post workout at all?

You, sir, are correct.

Typical is different for you and I. Intensity matters, blah blah. I bet your routine, evo's routine, and my routine all use different amounts. But for a guesstimate, if your stores were full before that, sure 80-100 sounds good.

If glycogen stores are full, odds are you're getting too many carbs to be cutting efficiently. Obviously you could still be under a deficit (this is a chillen waiver so he doesn't come in a correct me on a technicality) with very low fats/protein.

While cutting my meal before working out is 4 starburst, 4 AA pills, and 2 caffeine pills A longer digesting carb might not be a bad idea though

And yes. PWO insulin spike is a good idea, almost all of the time (off the top of my head i can't think of a time where it's bad)