Protein Supplements - Differences?

Ok so my trainer said that she recommended that I start with soy as a beginner protein supplement, that it wouldn't cause weight gain/bloating, and is a great option for in the morning when I need it the most. So in this case it's suggested to me based on my individual needs.

If I remember right she suggested that I blend it in with sugar free frozen yogurt, splash of skim milk, and some fruit. She uses soy as well and said this is what she has found to make it taste the best without adding tons of calories.

So I guess I will start with a soy protein supplement however that doesn't mean I can't switch it up later if I want.

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I would love to get some of those recipes from you for some really healthy ones!!!!
 
Banana Cream Smoothie

madness said:
What if you are allergic to dairy protein?
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Hemp. Or, better, get your protein from whole sources. Fish, chicken and eggs are lovely. Beef and pork, less so.

Here's one for a Low-Carb (see: almost zero) Banana Cream Pie smoothie. Ingredients are exact. If you substitute or alter anything, odds are it will taste disgusting, but feel free to experiment at your own risk:

1.75 cups ice cold spring water (Polish, if anyone's wondering).
8 ice cubes.
1.5 servings (usually two scoops, depending on the size of the scoop... 0.75 oz is the standard, or 45g total) of trueprotein premium banana bash (and otherwise plain) CMDI
1/4 tsp kosher sea salt (I like nature's cargo French)
0.4 oz whole certified organic almonds (should be about 9)
1.5 servings (1.5 rounded teaspoons) of smooth unflavored, sugar-free psyllium husk (that's a fibre supplement)

It goes in the blender in that order. Ice crush until consistency is that of a milkshake. Should be about 20-25 seconds. You need a powerful blender to get it right.

Yes, the salt is necessary. For both flavor and health reasons. Believe it or not, most people don't get enough. Unless you're eating a diet full of processed crap, in which case you are probably getting too much, and the wrong kind (sodium nitrite and sodium erythrocyte and such... shitty).

Nutritional information is as follows:

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For the micronutrients, the left number is the amount in USDA standard units, the right number is the % DRI (or, RDA if you prefer - the amount it is recommended that you take in daily). This is not true of the macronutrients (protein, fats, carbs, fiber, etc), as I've custom values in for those.
 
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do you have any recipes without nuts?

I'm not allowed to take them to work because the family I nanny for the husband is allergic to them.
 
funshine said:
do you have any recipes without nuts?

I'm not allowed to take them to work because the family I nanny for the husband is allergic to them.
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Yup. That was just a sample. Also, in the above one, if you want something a little less... crazy person (ie. has carbs), try subbing 1.5 frozen medium-size bananas for the ice, and swapping out one of the scoops of protein powder for the dutch chocolate flavor. That makes it reaaally yummy.

How about you tell me what you'd like in it and I will tell you proportions? That's the tricky part. Took me a lot of practice to get some of them down.. and a lot of drinking of nastiness. Protein + fat free yogurt + fruit is a pretty popular combination because it's hard to mess up. :)

Along the same lines, protein + milk + frozen banana(s) is pretty damn hard to mess up, too. Or just protein + milk. Milk makes it easy. But then, 80% of adults are lactose intolerant to some degree. (I'm not :p .) Bananas make things easy. For some reason, I find that their taste neutralizes that of the whey/casein, which I find extremely revolting.

If you're going for a simple "healthy" smoothie, that's not really hard at all. Just peel and freeze up various fruit, throw that shit in the blender, add a scoop or two of protein, and hit the "destructificate" button. I'd add the psyllium husk (despite the fact that all that fruit makes it unnecessary) because it makes an excellent thickening agent. And also the salt. No need for nuts to provide texture, though, with all that fruit in there.

I wouldn't do my banana cream recipe without the nuts. It's really sensitive. Needs the texture. But that's more for crazy people on the velocity diet anyway. You could try subbing flax for the almonds, but that might be really nasty. A lot of people do the flax thing. I don't approve of it for anyone but post-menopausal women. Proestrogens. -_- Besides the EFA conversion ratio is horrible, so they're essentially useless in that form.
 
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Steve said:
Muscle milk is high in calories. Even the light stuff you posted here is high relatively speaking. I wouldn't recommend it to people who are trying to lose weight.
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Its a meal replacement and I don't see how its high in calories... I drink it before a workout.. Its only 160 calories which is less than a hard boiled egg. I burn over 400 at the gym. I respectfully disagree.

I meant a cup of egg....

 
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MissDFITT said:
So is one protein better than the other? Whey vs Soy vs Brown Rice???? I am acutally wanting to start taking in some... but its hard to find one that tastes good.
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Well, taste is subjective. I use whey mixed in water and it's just fine - at least the brand I'm using.

I'd say whey is the best choice - if you don't have problems with dairy.

Keep in mind too there are two forms of whey - Whey Protein Isolate and Whey Protein Concentrate.

The isolate is the better quality - and slightly more expensive.
 
Doc Bunkum said:
Well, taste is subjective. I use whey mixed in water and it's just fine - at least the brand I'm using.

I'd say whey is the best choice - if you don't have problems with dairy.

Keep in mind too there are two forms of whey - Whey Protein Isolate and Whey Protein Concentrate.

The isolate is the better quality - and slightly more expensive.
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Thanks for the info I think I might head over to the health store today and see what they have and pick their brains a little bit.
 
LeaJnice said:
Its a meal replacement and I don't see how its high in calories... I drink it before a workout.. Its only 160 calories which is less than a hard boiled egg. I burn over 400 at the gym. I respectfully disagree.

I meant a cup of egg....
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Hahahaha.

Relative.

Relative to other protein powders. In general, and don't mind me b/c I barely know what the hell I'm talking about...

In general people do better on restricted diets EATING their food opposed to DRINKING it. What this means is that if someone needs so supplement their protein intake with a shake b/c they're not getting enough from their general diet... they should pick the ones that aren't meal replacements and hit up the normal shakes.

I respectfully disagree with your disagreement.
 
MissDFITT said:
So is one protein better than the other? Whey vs Soy vs Brown Rice???? I am acutally wanting to start taking in some... but its hard to find one that tastes good.

What should we (me and whoever else is curious) look for in a protein? Is is client specific or goal specific rather? And is it better to mix with water, soy milk, or milk? (or any other liquid for that matter)?
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Whey is the best protein. Your body can utilize it better than any other protein. Proteins are rated with a Biological Value (BV) based on how well your body utilizes that particular protein. Whey, eggs, milk/casein are tops. Soy is quite low (BV 74, Whey is 100). I definitely recommend supplementing with whey over soy.

I've been using Dymatize Elite Chocolate and it's awesome with milk and still decent with water.
 
I use Beverly International protein supplement.



Its a blend of casein, whey and egg whites, there might be soy in there too, I can't remember. I just mix a scoop and a half in water.

Someone had mentioned muscle milk. Muscle milk tastes good, I'd recommend it for someone who has never used protein powder as a way to get used to it, and once you are used to using protein supplement, you should wean onto a better choice. Reason being, some of the muscle milk products have over 2 gm saturated fat, and you don't want that, especially if you mix it with milk, that could put you at almost 5 gm saturated fat if using 1%....if you do that everyday, it *could* be enough to stall weight loss, it really depends on the person. I know for a fact my body would not tolerate that.

Other good sources of protein are fat free cottage cheese, which is also a complete protein, which means it contains every amino acid your body needs for the day. Your body can make some aminos, but not all of them, and cottage cheese is a great way to get all of them. Fat free ricotta could also be an option, as well. I also eat Chobani brand greek yogurt,



it has 18 gm of protein and only 7 gm of carbs, I have yet to find a yogurt to beat that ratio.

Good luck.
 
I gave up soy last year, and diet-wise it's been the best thing I did for my health. First off, my hypothyroidism is GONE (read up on the connection between soy and thyroid health). Second off, I used to have mad flatulence (sorry for sharing TMI), and now I barely get gas at all, and I eat plenty of regular beans. Try finding a hemp protein powder. It's much easier to digest and way better for you.
 
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