Pro-Anorexia

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I'll admit, I've had those type of eating habits (restricting calories and feeling guilty about eating etc) and it has helped me reach my lowest weight...but I was absolutely MISERABLE. I've since gained the weight back after I started eating normally (aka healthily). It's a terrible way to live your life. However for those who suffer from an eating disorder they can't help it, and no one should judge their lifestyle because it is a disease IMO, which goes beyond "not eating because you feel fat".
 
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Reply to miaterith's message Hiya, i think you have a very good point, it is refreshing to see normal sized models and not super thin ones, the probs that we are talking about on this thread are caused by images of semi nude skinny women so could i ask why the heck you have one for your avatar?
 
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Miaterith said:
I think the entire glamour "Hollywood Image" is schizophrenic itself. First they say thin is in showing stars and singers with bones protruding out of their bodies like the walking dead (which now magazines put these people down too) and God forbid if your curvy your considered fat and that is not acceptable either. Our entire society has a messed up view on beauty and weight to begin with. As a whole our society has a whole body distortation image problem. I personally like Dove's "Real Beauty" campaign commercials there a breath of fresh air from the glowing Revlon and Almay adds with nothing but gorgous size 2 models showing off makeup. :eek:
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Hiya, i think you have a very good point, it is refreshing to see normal sized models and not super thin ones, the probs that we are talking about on this thread are caused by images of semi nude skinny women so could i ask why the heck you have one for your avatar?
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Anorexia and bulimia are not lifestyles. They are eating disorders when the mechanism of denial operates and there is a changed perception of reality.

Certain people tend to develop eating disorders, they are just a coping mechanism for the underlying psychological problems.

And it is unlikely that these people will recover without additional help and support.

The websites just proliferate the eating disorders.
 
Anorexia and bulimia are actually mental illnesses that can be treated with a rather encouraging rate of success.
 
Jacklinger said:
Anorexia and bulimia are actually mental illnesses that can be treated with a rather encouraging rate of success.
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As long as the sufferer 1. realises they are unwell and 2. wants to get better.

Places like proana sites can make it harder for a sufferer to want to get well and so any form of treatment is pretty useless. With any mental health problem, it takes the person suffering the illness to do alot of the hard work as any service available cannot be there 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and fight all the battles for you.

People trying to get will have a constant dilemma on their hands, theres always the 'little voice' (like the voice of doubt) which wants to go back to what is known, what is safe and what used to work. Fighting this itself anyway is a huge battle but adding sites like proana sites to the mix...its just ten times worse, ten times harder, and all those times your support systems have gone to bed or finished their working week, these sites exist, all the times you have lost faith in what your doing and have no one around to talk to, these sites exist, all the horrible words that someone said to you which triggered the desire to be skinny again...these sites exist.

Any form of treatment can be ultimatly destroyed, these sites make getting better on a psychological level that bit more of a mountain climb.
 
larasen said:
I work at a hospital...I am a nurse...There are absolutely no benefits from being bulimic or Anorexic...If you yourself are suffering from either one of these conditions then seek help immediately. I see too many young girls die from these conditions and im telling you right now...its one of the most painfull ways to die...and its better to treat it before it starts. Don't be in denile. Get help please
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If only it were that simple.

Unfortnetly in my experience, you rarely have a full day where you realise you are severaly anorexic and need to change, you rarely feel underweight let alone drasticly so and you never feel like you are going to die- infact its the opposite. I think this is one of the reasons why many of the problems about getting help are prevented. That and seeing teeny tiny women on the faces of every magazine and assuming that inface you look just as thin as they do and that infact you are fine.

Its hard to get help if you don't accept you have a problem, its not about denial but more about not seeing whats right out in front of you. And once its gotten to the point of mental health sectioning, its really gotten too far.
 
I struggled on and off with an eating disorder from about age 15 until I was 24. I never knew how to eat healthy: my dad was a chronic overeater (still is) and my mom always chose the "starve yourself" way to becoming thin - when in reality, my mom has always been a petite woman and has oscillated maybe between 115 and 165lbs. She has never considered herself pretty a day in her life and is constantly talking poorly about her self image even to this day as a 64 year old woman.

That is what I learned from.

When I was 15, there weren't the internet sites available, but I certainly did lose weight with the starvation method. I ate a piece of bread and an apple for lunch and a salad for dinner, and breakfast was a cup of coffee. I didn't feel good unless I was hungry. Luckily, I started dating a guy who simply LOVED to eat. I couldn't continue to hate food with him around. And God love him, he loved the way I was and never let me forget that.

Over the next several years, I started a relationship with a man who berated me in every way possible: physically, mentally, emotionally. I smoked a cigarette? I was weak. I ate french fries with dinner? I had no self-control. He was looking to get a dog at one point in our relationship and saw a husky on some website. His comment in front of my friends was "It's like you! Husky!" I was 150lbs maximum at that point. As a curvy woman of 5'6, 150lbs suits me just fine. I look GOOD at 150lbs. I LIKE my hips and my breasts. I don't want to look like a 12 year old boy.

My last bout with starving myself was at age 24-25 (I'm 28 now). It lasted for about 2 months, which was luckily the shortest time span I ever had. I have been lucky enough to have extensive therapy and, ultimately, medication for depression/anxiety which has allowed me to accept myself even in the face of a huge weight gain after quitting smoking. I have been able to embark on a journey to gain healthy weight loss including therapy, nutrition counseling and personal training. I'm at the beginning of my journey, but I am eternally hopeful as this one is beginning from a place of self-love instead of self-hate.

Those with eating disorders who populate the pro-ana/mia sites are to be pitied. They are finding support in the only way they know how. I have been there. It is one of the darkest places you can come from - as my therapist told me, it is literally a suicidal point that you come from to starve yourself. You have to truly hate yourself and your body to starve yourself, because the ultimate end of that is death.

I'm still learning how to approach this in a healthy way. I'm still fighting off the urges to starve/overeat. The "middle road" has always been hard for me.

My husband said one of the most powerful things to me tonight. I was referencing something that happened when i was 18 years old and "hot" (aka "skinny"). He stopped me and said the following:

"No. . . .you weren't 'hot'. You were thinner. That's a completely different thing. I don't like you referring to yourself then as 'hot' or even 'hotter'. It's simply not true. You ARE hot. Weight has nothing to do with it."

It is wonderful to have someone to remind you of such things - especially your partner in life.
 
my sister is anorexic and has almost died several times. she is 5 foot 9 and weighed 87 pounds. it has been lower but my family wont discuss it with me because they dont want me to know when its really bad. her face is caved in. her chest is caved in. she has 0 shape to her body. she has struggled with this for over 10 years. every once and awhile she goes back to her old ways and you can just tell. places like those websites make me sick. I hope she doesnt see them.

the doctors have discussed alot of stuff with my family with her illness and she already possibly has caused irreversible damage to her organs. people dont understand the damage it does to your digestive track and organs.
 
Size32, I am so sorry for the pain you have gone through with your sister's illness. . . .

I hope that one day she will be able to come out of that cloud of self-hate. It is truly a dark place to be.
 
i dont think those sites are a good idea at all. yes, they can be beneficial to those who are suffering from an eating disorder, but at the same time, it can also still cause even more damage. with a lot of those proana sites, people keep public food diaries. i think this can be very tiggering to some people, like "oh wow this person ate 200 calories today, i need to eat less too now." it can be competitive in a way, if that makes sense. support groups are awesome for whatever you are dealing with, but i don't think it's a good thing to have unmonitored, suffering young girls have forums like that, unless it is moderated, and focuses only on recovery.
 
blessedxbeauty said:
i dont think those sites are a good idea at all. yes, they can be beneficial to those who are suffering from an eating disorder, .
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I don't even think they are beneficial to the sufferers. I was one, I never went onto these sites till I attempted recovery and, well, this could have easily given me ideas, tips, goals and taken away the fear that what I was doing may infact kill me. I would have been alot more unwell. Alot worse.

I don't feel from a health and wellness point of view they have any value what so ever, infact I cannot see their point at all.
 
I feel horrible for women that have to suffer through this disease. We put way too much pressure on people to be "thin and beautiful" whatever we consider to be beautiful. I wish we could fix it somehow but there is really no way to help them until they're ready to help themselves. People that have an eating disorder usually deny it flat out.
 
gourmet protein would be real food, a whey protein drink is just another whey protein drink. I doubt its going to be a nice healthy diet with tasty food.
 
Yes!!! Some one who understands!! I got to 95 pounds, but then I binge eat everyday and I'm not over weight. Like 150 pounds. I'm trying to do it the healthy way to loose weight now, but starving myself whent so much faster. I'm just haveing a battle with myself now. I over ate today already and it not even dinner time yet. I here to get support on eating healthy and loosing weight healthy too. But part of me still wants my old goal of 80 pounds, witch I never reached. Btw I'm 5'5"
 
well.. eating disorders start on the mind and not the body.

dying (sometimes literally) to be thin is a way for many young women to try to gain ''control'' of their bodies and emotions. when you control what goes in and out of your body you feel more centered and disciplined. of course it is the wrong way to do things but you can get carried on by a number of factors like peer pressure, media, your own family and personal eating habits, relationships and a log etcetera.
there is no ''one'' thing or person to blame for these disorders.

As an ex bulimic I can tell you that the need to get rid of the food in my body after an emotional binge had more to do with guilt and feeling ashamed than losing weight. deep down I knew I wasn't going to lose weight this way, but the feeling of liberating my stomach from ''bad food'' made me feel more secure and in control.

I've always been fighting to live a healthier lifestyle and it is no picnic, we all know that.
I know these sites seem to encourage girls to believe that an eating disorder is ok and even trendy, but we are all each responsible for our own bodies and how we handle it. I do believe these girls should seek help and therapy because starving is actually counterproductive when it comes to losing weight and especially keeping it off. nothing like a healthy life style, but like I said, it all starts with a healthy mind set.


just my two cents!
 
Amiba said:
well.. eating disorders start on the mind and not the body.

dying (sometimes literally) to be thin is a way for many young women to try to gain ''control'' of their bodies and emotions. when you control what goes in and out of your body you feel more centered and disciplined. of course it is the wrong way to do things but you can get carried on by a number of factors like peer pressure, media, your own family and personal eating habits, relationships and a log etcetera.
there is no ''one'' thing or person to blame for these disorders.

As an ex bulimic I can tell you that the need to get rid of the food in my body after an emotional binge had more to do with guilt and feeling ashamed than losing weight. deep down I knew I wasn't going to lose weight this way, but the feeling of liberating my stomach from ''bad food'' made me feel more secure and in control.

I've always been fighting to live a healthier lifestyle and it is no picnic, we all know that.
I know these sites seem to encourage girls to believe that an eating disorder is ok and even trendy, but we are all each responsible for our own bodies and how we handle it. I do believe these girls should seek help and therapy because starving is actually counterproductive when it comes to losing weight and especially keeping it off. nothing like a healthy life style, but like I said, it all starts with a healthy mind set.


just my two cents!
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They just shock me- that they even exist. You would not be allowed to have a website which instructs step by step on how to take drugs, or abuse a child, how commit suicide or build an atomic bomb or how to obtain the ingredience. If such sites exist (which I am sure they do) they are taken very seriously, its a police matter, often an international operation. The reason is such websites destroy lives and incite destructive behaviour. Yet its totally legit to start a website on how to binge, how to starve, how to even motivate yourself to do either (and many other things inbetween) just incase you didn't 'want' an eating disorder enough.

Kids are very impressionable. I know I was into several bands and certain styles of fashion growing up- when they make their return (eg boot cut jeans, band returns or remixes of old music) I look at them feeling a connection, that I once loved that band/style/look. Yet I can say that if I had gone to a different school, met different friends, had a slightly different set up, my love for the above would likely have been very different- when your growing up, peer pressure counts for alot. It makes us who we are.

These sites are dangerous, they affect younger people, growing and curious minds and they try to build a desire of perfection which does not exist or is life threatening.

Something needs to change, something needs to be done and authorities need to start taking this seriously- the site owners should be accountable for attempted manslaughter.
 
summer123 said:
They just shock me- that they even exist. You would not be allowed to have a website which instructs step by step on how to take drugs, or abuse a child, how commit suicide or build an atomic bomb or how to obtain the ingredience. If such sites exist (which I am sure they do) they are taken very seriously, its a police matter, often an international operation. The reason is such websites destroy lives and incite destructive behaviour. Yet its totally legit to start a website on how to binge, how to starve, how to even motivate yourself to do either (and many other things inbetween) just incase you didn't 'want' an eating disorder enough.

you do have a strong point.
I know it is equivalent to suicide after all, but I do believe many of these sites are being taken down? I might be wrong.
and they should indeed invest more time and energy in advising these girls about the dangers of starvation-binging as much as they do on child molesters or atomic bomb pages.

Kids are very impressionable. I know I was into several bands and certain styles of fashion growing up- when they make their return (eg boot cut jeans, band returns or remixes of old music) I look at them feeling a connection, that I once loved that band/style/look. Yet I can say that if I had gone to a different school, met different friends, had a slightly different set up, my love for the above would likely have been very different- when your growing up, peer pressure counts for alot. It makes us who we are.

peer pressure is a horrible thing. I grew up being a victim of it, and staying strong and focused isn't easy. there is for sure a lot of pressure to stay ''thin'' and many girls rely on highly unhealthy methods to achieve so.

These sites are dangerous, they affect younger people, growing and curious minds and they try to build a desire of perfection which does not exist or is life threatening.

Something needs to change, something needs to be done and authorities need to start taking this seriously- the site owners should be accountable for attempted manslaughter.
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I also agree. but what to do? more and more girls are dying, even in the media: models, dancers. things are being done (like spain's new issue regarding BMI) but it is still not enough. I believe it starts at home a lot of times. but who knows
 
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