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I was interested in starting up taking some martial arts classes, i was thinking either, TKD, KungFu, or Karate. The problem i have is, all the places ive tried to contact about pricing, wont discuss them unless you sit down with them or take a free class. They only tell me they are "comparable to other places in the area".

I know its different depending on where you live, and how many classes a week, etc. If some people can just give me a quick estimate of what i can expect to pay or what you pay i would really appreciate it.

Thanks
 
Well when I was still teaching my TKD class, I charged $50 per month, and for that you could come in as many times as you wanted.
Look out for the places that won't give you a price, been there done that.
They want you to come there, which really isn't a bad idea, but what you want is a system where you know who is going to teach! What I mean is and no offense to anyone, is someone that has some years behind them in teaching, not some student. I would also say to go 3x's per week, but like anything else, you get what you put in. That figure is just an average.
 
jaackdeth said:
Well when I was still teaching my TKD class, I charged $50 per month, and for that you could come in as many times as you wanted.
Look out for the places that won't give you a price, been there done that.
They want you to come there, which really isn't a bad idea, but what you want is a system where you know who is going to teach! What I mean is and no offense to anyone, is someone that has some years behind them in teaching, not some student. I would also say to go 3x's per week, but like anything else, you get what you put in. That figure is just an average.
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yeah a couple of these places had their black belt students teaching a lot of the classes. Is this something i should stay away from?
 
I have found through the years that alot of them don't take it to heart like someone more seasoned. I hate to tell you that they don't know what they are doing, probally far from it, but to really get everything from it, I would check to see if they offer special classes. Most school system will have say 1 or 2 nights a week where a Master or someone of good caliber would teach.
Check that out and make sure they don't "charge" more for them.
Bottom line is this, anyone with a blackbelt can show you moves, but can they teach you the Knowledge behind it.
 
I took TKD and Karate, in a town of only 24,000 people. It was around $40 a month for TKD, 2 classes a week. A little cheaper for the Karate because it was a new dojo in town.

I'd go for Karate, as it teaches kicks and punches...TKD often emphasizes flashy, but ineffective kicks. Specifically I took Kempo Karate...Okinawa style Karate, which was very tight on moves as it was developed for hand to hand combat in trenches...where a TKD kick attempt would just get you killed.
 
jaack,

didn't mean to over generalize. shoulda said "too often, low quality instructors emphasize the flashy kicks, rather than effective skills"
 
I have found Krav Maga for 150 4 times per week and BJJ for 120 twice a week. Outrageously expensive. I havent even looked into TKD or Karate in this area as its geared towards kids.
 
Krav Maga isn't that common, so they can charge alot for it. Its very very effective in self defense though. BJJ is a fad martial art right now (not saying that its not effective) so they can name their price too.
 
I want to see someone use KM one of these days...like full contact. A lot of the KM classes you see are just them teaching you combos on shadows or on no contact with partners.
 
LeiYunFat said:
I want to see someone use KM one of these days...like full contact. A lot of the KM classes you see are just them teaching you combos on shadows or on no contact with partners.
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I would too... they claim KM is so deadly that they can't practice it on each other. I'd like to see if they're right, just not on the recieving end.
 
I am thinking of signing up with a dojo that’s down the street from me. They seem to be a franchise, with locations in Minnesota and Illinois. I was told that I can sign up for their “Blue Belt” program, which will take me to my blue belt (13 months of instruction) for a total tuition of $1237.00 and “promotion fees” (the cost of all my belts in advance) for a total of $1447.00. I wouldn’t have to pay all of this up front, but would rather make a down-payment of $250.00 and then pay 12 incremental monthly payments of $99.75.
Is this typical, or does it sound like a rip-off?
 
aevans410 said:
I would too... they claim KM is so deadly that they can't practice it on each other. I'd like to see if they're right, just not on the recieving end.
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i talked to a couple of police men, they said krav maga probably saved there asses so i guess it works
 
Is this typical, or does it sound like a rip-off?
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What a "colorful program" ! :D

That is the worst thing I have ever seen about Martial Arts for sure! How can one mix up money and martial arts accomplishments, belt color and discount, or even asking students to "pay their belts" in advance?

Also, according to the price they ask you to pay I hope that they are very skilled teachers... I would have only one advice to you Safron, turn your back to such offers, you are just going to waste your time and money.

I also disagree a bit regarding discussions about schools, techniques and styles. That is not really the style itself which is deadly nor karate can save someone's life... A school and a technique is nothing without the right student.

What makes an effective combo is not the combo itself but the student's ability to apply it in space and time. I think that thinking the other way around is a mistake. Would you trust a professional boxer having knocked down his opponent during first round with one punch writing a book about how his "special" left hook technique will enable you to knock down your opponent the same way? How many times did he threw his punch without success? still he was the same guy, same force, same mind... Nothing exists out of space and time and this is very true when it comes to martial art techniques.

Now, some schools have very talented students who have mastered their arts and were being able to spread its knowledge and fame all over the world. But this does not and WILL NEVER mean that you can reach their level of efficiency by subscribing to their school, style, words.

That is also why I think that this is down to the student itself to find what is right for him, not all styles will fit his unique character. If he really wants to realize himself through these "disciplines for life", he could try and see, try and feel what is right for him.

And once again, I would never trust a teacher who bases his lessons on the price the student has paid... Or would asses how much time (depending on price) you need to get a blue belt :p
 
I agree, you could "buy" a belt anywhere...and it shouldn't cost you $2000. I also agree that the responsibility of success is on the student, by a large majority. I'd say 60%-70% on the student and the rest on the instructor and style. There are just normal people that can kick the **** out of others who have been taking x martial arts for xx number of years...But at the same time, you can't be in Yellow Bamboo MA and expect to become a great fighter because you are naturally inclined.
 
Saphron_Girl said:
I am thinking of signing up with a dojo that’s down the street from me. They seem to be a franchise, with locations in Minnesota and Illinois. I was told that I can sign up for their “Blue Belt” program, which will take me to my blue belt (13 months of instruction) for a total tuition of $1237.00 and “promotion fees” (the cost of all my belts in advance) for a total of $1447.00. I wouldn’t have to pay all of this up front, but would rather make a down-payment of $250.00 and then pay 12 incremental monthly payments of $99.75.
Is this typical, or does it sound like a rip-off?
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its bullshido...

you don't want any type of instruction that promises any belt rank in a certain amout of time, and especially one that wants you to enter into a contract.
 
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