Please Somebody Help!

man_wolf

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From 4th grade to 10th grade in High School, I put on a lot of weight. My stomach was a character of its own. It wasn't until the summer of 10th grade that I started getting conscious of my weight, and started limiting my dietary intake and exercising. Especially in 12th grade I took a stringent stance against it, and started "counting calories." Now I'm a college freshman, and I need help.

My body has become skinny (including my arms, legs, and somewhat my face). BUT although I don't have a stomach nearly the size I had before. I still have a little fat in my stomach, and chest area. And I just checked my weight and it's 124- unhealthy for a now 18 year-old. I've been alternating between running 3-4 miles one day, and doing weights the other day (so my muscle mass isn't lost). How do I get rid of this last remaining fat, without loosing anymore weight. I'm going as far as to say, is it possible for me to gain weight and loose what remains?

Please help - its so frustrating. I've been struggling for years and I just want to put an end to the affair, and not have to worry about my weight anymore. I just want to be a kid, and eat like a kid should...
 
I'm a 44 year old bloke who actually follows a similar exercise program to yours (alternating between running/cardio days (2 - 3 per week) and strength training days (3 - 4 per week).). Previously, I lost 48 pounds over around five months of cal cutting, but for the past three monthes I have been eating more to try and bulk - lots of healthy food, lots of lean protein, several times per day (however, I have only regained 3 pounds in overall weight!).

I am having the same problem with that last hard to lose excess body fat. Its on my stomach and chest area too! In my case, it is ever so slowly reducing on my stomach. On my chest, the unexpected - my moobs are still there, but they are slowly developing into pecs! I think that we are genetically prone to carry our excess body fat like this. I'm finding it harder to lose the last flab than I did to lose the 48 pounds that brought me down to my recommended BMI.

My plan is to carry on with the present regime of exercise and eating, but if I am not happy with my progress in the New Year, then I will try cutting calories more, and maybe increase cardio a little.
 
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The number of calories you need to consume adjusts with your current body. 1200-1300 is generally a safe number to aim for, but you may want to experiment for a while to find what works for you.
 
Wolf - healthy weight and calorie requirements depend on some other data too - how tall are you? do you know what your body fat percentage is? are you male or female?

I'll tell you what I keep reading (I'm not to this point yet, so I can't speak from any personal experience on this) - but what I think a number of people would recommend to your is that you slowly up your caloric intake to your "maintenance level", or actually probably a little above, and start hitting the strength training - look to build lean muscle mass - you'll gain healthy weight, your limbs won't look sickly-skinny, and you'll slowly get rid of that last bid of fat. Raise it slowly, because if you've been eating 1200 calories a day for a long time, your body has gotten used to it. But you won't put on much lean muscle mass without raising it.

Like I said, this is info I've gathered from reading, I'm haven't done this. Anyone who has done it care to correct me?
 
The best idea here is to lose (fat=weight) first, then aim on adding on muscle. You can do both at the same time, but it won't be as effective and it will take alot longer
 
Yeah, but the problem is I've lost too much weight. I'm down to 124 and I'm 5' 8". I feel that's an unhealthy weight. It's just that I have some lingering fat on my midsection. Its not a great amount, but its enough to keep me from having a fit appearance. The rest of my body is skinny and fit. I do weight training, so that when I run I don't loose muscle mass, and just fat. But..is there any way to get to 130, ands still loose that remaining bit of fat on my stomach and chest? Thanks!
 
Wolf - Okay, I'm 5'8", and every time I've been below 130 I looked anorexic, so I'm going to venture that you weighing 124 IS TOO LOW. You are NOT going to lose that flabby belly by continuing to "diet". Particularly not if you limbs are already scrawny looking.

Raise your calories slowly, eating good wholesome food with plenty of protein. Up your strength training routine.

I've read a million places that you can't put on barely any lean muscle mass if you don't have a slight calorie surplus.

The point is that the added muscle will help get rid of that last bit of flab, in addition to making you look healthier and more balanced overall. Don't be afraid of eating more, I think you probably need to. As long as you raise your calories slowly, eat GOOD food, keep exercising ESPECIALLY strength training, you shouldn't have to worry about gaining fat again.
 
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Wolf - Okay, I'm 5'8", and every time I've been below 130 I looked anorexic, so I'm going to venture that you weighing 124 IS TOO LOW. You are NOT going to lose that flabby belly by continuing to "diet". Particularly not if you limbs are already scrawny looking.

Raise your calories slowly, eating good wholesome food with plenty of protein. Up your strength training routine.

I've read a million places that you can't put on barely any lean muscle mass if you don't have a slight calorie surplus.

The point is that the added muscle will help get rid of that last bit of flab, in addition to making you look healthier and more balanced overall. Don't be afraid of eating more, I think you probably need to. As long as you raise your calories slowly, eat GOOD food, keep exercising ESPECIALLY strength training, you shouldn't have to worry about gaining fat again.

That is good advice
 
You suggest I up the caloric intake a little, as well as the gym routine.

Here's what I ate today, tell me if it was appropriate:

Breakfast
bowl of life with skim milk

Lunch
Rotisserie chicken (like a breast and a wing)
Caesar salad (small bowl)

Midday:
Light & Fit Yogurt, snacked on some cereal

Dinner:
6 BBQ wings
half a chicken breast
some salad & potatoes

Desert:
small banana bread cupcake

what do I need to cut, add; is this a good diet for building muscle and loosing that last remaining fat.
 
You suggest I up the caloric intake a little, as well as the gym routine.
what do I need to cut, add; is this a good diet for building muscle and loosing that last remaining fat.

It's really impossible to tell without knowing the calories, protein, fats, carbs, fiber, etc...

You might want to check out World Fitness.com - workout - exercise - fitness - forum - articles
They have a lot of great info on building muscle. The first recommendations I'd make are having 5-6 even meals a day (just divide your calories by 5 or 6), and upping your protein intake. Then make sure all your food is healthy - each of your choices might or might not be, depending. I'd kick Life cereal, personally, for something with higher protein and fiber, and lower sugar.
 
Have you thought of being tested for diabetes? Not wanting to be a pain but having excess mass around your tummy area is also a sign of diabetes.
 
I haven't gotten tested specifically for diabetes. But last time I went for a physical, the doctor said I was healthy, and might want to put on some extra weight (I was 127 lbs). All the fat that's left isn't an incredible amount, it's just a small amount of loose flab covering up my stomach. Like if I flex I see the appearance of abs on my stomach; covered at the bottom by that loose flab. My chest also has some lingering fat as well.

Are these still signs of diabetes..or what's going on?
 
I don't know anything at all about diabetes - but barring that, what you describe sounds *completely normal* - you just don't have enough muscle mass to be as 'cut' as it sounds like you'd like to be.
 
Hi Man Wolf,
First thing - congratulations on your progress to date, you've done brilliantly!

There's a lot of good advice in this thread, particularly from Aeris and if you follow a few of the tips posted you'll be on the way to addressing your problem stomach and chest fat.

A couple of things that might help as well. Firstly, when you diet you lose fat and muscle. The more fat you lose, the more muscle goes with it. You can minimise muscle loss by not dropping your calories too much (1,200-1,300 calories a day for a 5'8" man sounds a bit low), eating a little more protein - around 1gm for every 1lb of lean body weight (approx 80-100 gms in your case) and doing some regular resistance training, which you are doing.

Secondly, your body equates dieting with starvation and has evloved a number of strategies over the course of human evolution to deal with periods of famine. Your metabolism drops to match your calorie intake and your body deaminates protein to burn the carbon shell for fuel, eg it burns muscle tissue. As muscle is responsible for most of the calories you burn each day, your body conserves energy this way. Clearly, losing muscle tissue is not a good thing when dieting, or at any other time for that matter!

The longer and more often you diet, the less effective the diet and each successive diet becomes.

It sounds to me as if your body has adapted itself to your diet. It will do whatever it can to hang on to your remaining body fat. The key now is to raise your metabolic rate and to build some muscle. Your weight sounds rather low for your height, but without knowing more about you it's hard to say.

Regardless, building some muscle will help. Looking at your daily food intake, I'd make a few suggestions.

1. Eat more. Gradually increase your daily calorie intake. Do this too quickly and your body will suck up the calories like a sponge and store them as body fat to protect against the next period of starvation. Try adding 50 calories a day in weekly increments.

2. Eat more lean protein. A convenient way to do this is a protein shake. Find a good protein powder, add in some skimmed/soya milk, chuck in a blender with some frozen berries, half a banana, mix and enjoy. One shake a day will add around 250-300 calorties and 20-30gm of protein. Also, eat some lean protein at each meal - chicken fish, the usual suspects. A skinless chicken breast has around 25 gms of protein.

3. Eat 5-6 small meals a day/eat every 3-4 hours. Already suggested and good advice. If you're eating 2,000 cals a day, then say five 400 calorie meals at, for example 7am, 10am, 1pm, 4pm and 7pm would spread your intake out over the day and ensure that your body used the food for energy rather than store it as fat. It will also keep your metabolism fired up and in fat burning, rather than fat storing mode.

4. Build some muscle. 3-4 weight training sessions a week, working each body part once a week should do the job. Each pound of muscle burns 14 calories a day at rest, a lot more when you're active. As such, add lean tissue and you burn more calories, which will help to shift that stubborn body fat. Please note that you won't burn body fat whilst weight training, but the muscle you add will increase your metabolic rate, and some of the additional calories you burn each day will be from body fat.

5. Burn fat through aerobic exercise. 3x30 mins sessions a week should do. Don't overdo the aerobics as your aim should be to build some muscle. You don't build muscle whilst weight training, which 'damages' muscle tissue, you build muscle whilst resting between sessions. You want your body to use dietary protein to repair and build muscle tissue and dietary carbs to replenish muscle gycogen (carbs) ready for the next session. If you're pounding the streets for an hour a day that ain't gonna happen. Also, it's hard to burn fat and build muscle at the same time. I would suggest that you might want to make the latter your priority now.

Without knowing you and doing a personal analysis, this is pretty general advice but I hope it helps. You've done really well so far and should be proud of yourself! You're ready to move on to the next stage in your body reshaping project - stay smart and motivated (and there's plenty of good people in this forum that will help with that) and you'll get there.

Best wishes,
Marcus
 
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