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I didnt change my story, when I added soup, yogurt, etc I made it clear it was the new plan my mother suggested and I started today. The v8 is the juice I mentioned in my first post.

I may not know much about food but everyone I know agrees sodas are bad, why I dont know but they are.

Its not just sushi and pasta, as I added the veggie soup and the chicken with lettuce on fridays. I could also add meatballs with rice each week.

Im puzzled as to why my new plan is an unhealthy balance of fat and carbs as it includes apples, bananas, cereal, veggie soup, chicken and wheat. how can this be so unhealthy? Thats what is making me be so frustrated, it doesnt make sense.

As for breakfast I asked you if eggs and cereal are ok.

If you have a hard time taking me seriously I have the right to question you both as well, drinking sodas isnt healthy, nor is it eating a lot at night. How do I even know you are not fat? it is the ultimate irony when a doctor is lecturing people about health and he is fat himself.

My mother told the instructors at our gym about my issue and they agreed I just needed to add more food like apples and chicken.

If I told you my new diet plan was pizza and burgers I would be an idiot, but what I wrote seemed reasonable and healthy to me.
 
Aphex said:
Dania: I havent lost hair or felt weak, I had surgery in december and the blood tests said I didnt have anemia. So I think im still in time to fix it.
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well that's really good! I am severely anaemic u know.. and i eat greens often :/ ... well anaemia isnt the only imbalance to be concerned about.. but as i said, if you research it you will find a whole lot of info.

and guys could you cut the convo you are having now and start afresh? seriously... i see it going down the wrong path IMHO.. but if not, have fun and do what you do.

Hey Aphex! i hope you really take my advice and research it! :) I wish you health
 
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Then I really dont know what to do. and Im sorry But honestly several cans of diet coke doesnt sound moderate or balanced, sodas in general diet or not are bad.

Your meals in general sound like a lot, unless youre telling me the servings are very small.

If what Im eating is high in calories and vitamins how can it be starving? I thought it was decent because theres vegetable soup and chicken. Im eating yogurt just like you. apples and bananas sound ok to me too. the other guy doesnt seem to add fruit to his cereal either.

My juice is v8 too and my pasta is alfredo as well.

It has been pointed out repeatedly that Im 20 and its outraging I am alive, so I repeat: Im asking for help because Ive never eaten properly in my life and I need to start before I die. Yes, I want people to tell me what to eat and I want them to help me step by step with stick figures and 2 plus 2, because I dont know anything about food. nor do my friends or family.
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There is nothing wrong with diet soda. It isn't as pure as water but it isn't harmful to weight loss (thought there are a study or two). REGULAR soda however, is bad cause it is empty calories.

Ok, I'm going to say it. I think that this might not be the place for you. First, this is a weight loss forum, not a weight gain forum. Second, we keep giving you real information but you want your hand held..that's not exactly why we are here. Third, If you are having this many problems, I think a professional is in order.



Oh..and not eating at night? COMPLETE MYTH. Your body doesn't give a damn if you eat at 3 am or 3 pm. Your body never shuts off.


oh yeah, yeah, I'm fat..I've also lost 30 pounds in the last 3 months.
 
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I have the right to question you both as well, drinking sodas isnt healthy, nor is it eating a lot at night. How do I even know you are not fat?
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My stats are in my signature and my photos are in my journal. Feel free to see for yourself. I've lost over 80 lbs and kept it off for nearly 3 years now. In the last 2 months I've lost another 12 lbs and am working my way towards losing another 25 or so before I reach my goal weight.

I'm going to ask you again why you think drinking diet soda isn't healthy? I need a reason other than "just because". Because if you don't know why it's not healthy, then I think you might want to rethink judging whether or not the rest of our advice is "wrong".

Eating at night being bad is a dieting myth. Again, if you can't explain WHY eating at night is bad, then you might need to reconsider the information and the source. There is nothing wrong with eating at night - calories don't care when they're eaten.

You have this headful of myths about food that you're not willing to let go of, and a lack of other knowledge about nutrition and yet you want to say that you're going to question everything that's said to you.

I don't know what else to tell you. There is a TON of nutrition information on this site. There is a TON of valid nutrition information on the web. If you do the tiniest fraction of research, you'll find that everything Jericho and I have said to you is backed up by science and medical fact. But you'd rather hold on to the myths and continue to insist that we draw stick figures for you - which you will then not believe and accuse us of being wrong, being fat, lying to you, whatever.

*shrug*

I don't know what else you want.
 
Ok, I'm really really really trying to have patience here. You asked why your revised meal plan was bad. So let's break it down. You said:

Morning: One day bread and milk
12 pm: 2 days: low calorie natural chips (73 calories)
Meal: Mondays: pasta
So let's see .. there's bread (carb), chips (carb), pasta (carb). There's no veggies there. There's no protein there except for a little milk. There no healthy fat there. There's no fruit there. There's nothing but carbs and more carbs.

So then the next day:
Morning: the next cereal,
other days: wheat toast
Tuesday: sushi
So there's cereal (carb), toast (carb), sushi (carb with protein from the fish). There's no veggies there. The only protein is the tiny bit of fish in the sushi. There's no healthy fat there. There's no frutit. There's nothing but carbs, more carbs, and a teeny bit of protein.

Then the next day:
the next eggs.
12 pm: 2 days: low calorie natural chips (73 calories)
wedensday: vegetable soup
Vaguely beginning to look like a balanced meal, except nowhere near enough food. Eggs are good. That's fine. Chips? No. Not a healthy "meal". Carbs. Vegetable soup - also good. But not enough. So .. there's one serving of veg there. There's more carbs. And there's eggs. Where are the rest of the veggies. Where's the healthy fat? Where's the rest of the protein? Where's the fruit? That's maybe 500 calories total.

Oh yeah, and add a cup of yogurt to each day. There's a little more protein and some dairy. Ok, fine, but still not enough.

I'm gonig to ask you again .. Do you understand what a calorie is? Do you understand how calories affect weight loss and gain? Do you understand that you have to eat enough calories to fuel your body?

Please register for a free food log at fitday or livestrong or one of those sites and start entering your food choices and amounts. That's the only way you're going to begin to understand why what you're choosing to eat is not healthy.
 
Ok, I've just noticed something. You seem to have an idea that there are good and bad foods and that there is a specific menu you should follow weekly. That's not really the case, actually.

Don't think of any food as strictly off limits. Ok, don't eat pizza for every meal, but once in a while? Eat the pizza, it's fine. No one claimed the diet sodas were healthy. Jericho just posted what his daily meals tend to look like and for him, that includes diet soda. No, they are healthy exactly, but they don't equal instant fat. For people who feel they need some soda, it's a no calorie alternative. No one said you have to drink it if you don't want to.

There are no "I can never eat that" foods. There are only ones that should be enjoyed in moderation. Especially for you, since you are trying to stop losing.

Also, I'm confused why you need such a strict plan. I think you are looking for one of us to say "Ok, on Mondays you have this for breakfast, this for lunch, etc." Why? You don't need to eat the same things every week and there is no perfect meal plan. There is a whole world of food out there.

What should you eat? Well, according to the Food Pyramid:

- At least 3 oz of grains (bread, cereal, pasta, rice), whole grains are best
- 3 to 5 servings of veggies, making sure you get dark green veggies
- 2 to 4 servings of fruit, whole fruits not juices, eat a variety
- Healthy fats! Nuts, fish, oils
- 2 to 3 servings of low-fat or non-fat dairy (milk, cheese, yogurt)
- Protein (for you, about 80g), lean meats (chicken, turkey, fish) and nuts, beans, peas, seeds

That's daily. As in, you don't eat veggies one day and grains the next, etc. And mix up your meals, there is no reason at all to eat the same 4 things over and over. Actually, doing so, especially with fruits and veggies, can lead to malnutrition because you aren't getting the vitamins found in the other types that you aren't eating.

Oh, and based on what you posted, I entered your activity level into the BMI calculator and came up with 2631 calories a day to maintain your weight. If you eat less, you will continue to lose weight, more will make you gain. These rates are just a guess, though, everyone is different. So if you notice you are still losing at that level, eat more.
 
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Please register for a free food log at fitday or livestrong or one of those sites and start entering your food choices and amounts. That's the only way you're going to begin to understand why what you're choosing to eat is not healthy.
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Sorry for the double post, but I really wanted to second this! That will help you a lot, I think. I use fitday and it puts it right out there what I need and what I'm eating.
 
I'm sorry you feel that I've been hostile. I've said repeatedly that I don't mean to be hostile, but I truly don't know how to respond to you. I'm glad that Mizzie was able to provide some kind of information that helped.

Her advice is good. Stop thinking of foods in terms of black and white. There's nothing wrong with drinking diet soda. There's nothing wrong with eating pizza. Heck, Sunday night was my housemate's birthday and I ate burgers and chips and even had a piece of cheesecake. Then on Monday I went back to being healthy again and didn't use my Sunday "treat" as an excuse to binge and go crazy.
 
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I don't want to think of food in black and white terms intentionally, but I like the food I'm used to and I've never been a person of variations, I like my routines. So far I'm feeling good with what I ate today.
 
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