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Hey everyone!
My names matt, and im 15 years old. Just recently ive decided to join the army and drop out of school. I've got 2 years to put on some muscle, before I enlist myself. I have trouble with motivating myself, and hopefully this is the place where I can find some motivational support. See ya around!
 
Bloodbath said:
Hey everyone!
My names matt, and im 15 years old. Just recently ive decided to join the army and drop out of school. I've got 2 years to put on some muscle, before I enlist myself. I have trouble with motivating myself, and hopefully this is the place where I can find some motivational support. See ya around!
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In Kansas the legal age requirement to attend school is 18 (raised from 16). How are your parents handling you quitting school at the age of 15 and then wanting to go into the army at 17 (two years later). Do you live in the states? Where do you live--what country or state, I mean. What is the legal quitting age there?

So you are making the decision from sitting in the class room exercising and growing your brain at 15 for about 13 weeks of Basic/AIT (which isnt a joke), and the possibility of bullets whizzing by your head in Iraq (if in states)?

What is YOUR rationale for making this decision to quit school and join the army? What circumstances are you presently in?
 
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Chillen said:
In Kansas the legal age requirement to attend school is 18 (raised from 16). How are your parents handling you quitting school at the age of 15 and then wanting to go into the army at 17 (two years later). Do you live in the states? Where do you live--what country or state, I mean. What is the legal quitting age there?

So you are making the decision from sitting in the class room exercising and growing your brain at 15 for about 13 weeks of Basic/AIT (which isnt a joke), and the possibility of bullets whizzing by your head in Iraq (if in states)? What is YOUR rationale for making this decision to quit school and join the army? What circumstances are you presently in?
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I'll be attending school for 1 more year, until I can legally drop out at 16.

I live in Florida atm.

My parents were very heartbroken, and discouraged with my plans in life. But thankfully they are some what supportive.

I live a normal life, friends, loving family, a great school.
But I'd 100%, much rather be out there in the battle field defending this great country. HOORAH!

I need tips on planning a weekly workout/cardio routine. And help on getting motivated to workout. I'd appreciate it if you would refrain from questioning my personal desicions in life.
 
You are going to need a training routine that is mainly and proportionate to high endurance:


If you are going to join the US Army do a search on the Basic/AIT training methods and what they will EXPECT from you.

Here is a brief description on what to expect (I wrote it fast so bare this in mind):


1. 400+ pushups or more (per day) in boot camp isnt uncommon. Hundreds more if your not doing grass drills for someone in the company or you making a mistake in the "traditions" (i.e. boots being shined to the Drill SGT's satisfaction, inspections, urinal cleaning, uniform presentation, etc, etc.). These pushups do not include normal fitness training and routine scheduling.

2. 300+ situps or more (per day) in boot camp isnt uncommon. Hundreds more if your not doing grass drills for someone in the company or you making a mistake. This does not include normal fitness training or scheduling.

3. A steady dose of mountain climbers unil you wake up and see that you have been doing them while you were asleep, about 300+ per day or hundreds more dependent on whether you or another company member makes a mistake.

4. Prepare for 4 hours of sleep: The first few weeks you will get about 4 hours per day of sleep. Sometimes you will be selected for "fire drill" which means you get virtually none in one day sometimes--the first few weeks of Basic.

5. The ability to handle someone in your face constantly putting stress on you--ALL DAY LONG, with exception of classes. If you find it funny (as I did when I was in), "he tells you to get your D@CK in the dirt", if you look at him, "your d@ck is in the dirt", etc. Every where you go there is no walking--its all "DOUBLE-TIME........ALL THE TIME"--there is no walking.

6. You run about 3 miles in the morning after fitness training, and then another 3 miles in the afternoon after fitness training (and this doesnt include the hundreds of pushups, situps, mountain climbers during grass drills INBETWEEN), and all the while getting about 4 hours sleep per day. The 3 mile run in morning and the 3 mile run in the afternoon, is just the "break-in" miles, they get progressively LONGER.

7. A high endurance application of cleaning pots and pans on "Mess Detail". LARGE POTS all day for HOURS. Regular and on going "Latrine Duty" cleaning toilets, urinals, and mopping floors.

8. Attention to detail in barricks, self, and for inspections--if you make a mistake (even if its common and understandable) its NO EXCUSE...d@ck in the dirt for "grass drills", and these can last for 30 minutes or more sometimes. Think of all the pushups you can do in one day. This isnt enough.

9.10 mile, 15 mile and 25 mile marches with full gear and backpack (with M-16, and pack can weigh 15 to 45pounds). Many BLOOD BLISTERS common. Many ankles swell beyond recognition. If you cant continue, one is out. Have to repeat basic after healing.

10. Obstacle course drills and time requirements. Must pass or out.


A very high mental and physical fitness is required. I did this off of memory rather quickly, so its not exhaustive. I took my basic at Fort Sill, Oklahoma (1984), and Officer Candidate School (OCS,which is WORSE) 1988.

Are you aware this is what you are heading for in Basic/AIT Training in the Army?

Your training needs to be in high endurance methods of application. And, you need to have mental high endurance to withstand lack of sleep and tiredness in addition to tolerence to pain.

Chillen
 
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I'm looking to joining Ranger School, once I pass my AIT.

Your post was very informative, It's givin me a basic understanding of the physical endurance ill need when I join the force. I'll look into the training methods. Thanks chillen.
 
During the first few weeks of basic, it is pretty intensive "endurance" activities over "pure" strength activities.

The run type in boot camp is called the "Airborne Shuffle". Its slightly slower than a jog with short steps. You will have to progressively get to the point you can run at this type of speed for long periods of time (miles).

In addition, your upper body has to have alot of endurance and strength, but more endurance than strength. VERY high reps of pushups, situps, mountain climbers, chin ups (pull ups).

You have to have strength in your legs, but more "endurance" than "strength". I have see many big strong guys, bow out, because they didnt have the "endurance that is necessary" for the type of training being applied.
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I had to act like a dying "Cock Roach" once when I messed up, and had to do it for 25 minutes while they drank coffee and laughed. The more I laughed, the more trouble I got in. ----------->cant take it too seriously, ya know, it is a mind game, but yet one has to control emotions, or "you see your D@ck in the dirt" many times. LOL


I went in the barricks with my boots on..........Oopps! :)
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Another time, I had to put my head fully submerged in a camode (toilet for the young ones), and flush it........the drill Sgt. stated: "Thats your brain going down, you maggot!"

Then out for "Grass Drills": Push ups, situps, for another 25 minutes. Just me and the Drill Sgt on my @ss. LOL

Because, I went into the barricks with my boots on again, the very next day. :)
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With the type of upbringing I had (self-esteem destroyed by parents), boot camp (though I hated it when I was going through it) was a MAJOR positive experience in my life and I look at it from many different angles and perspectives. One thing you will learn (if you go), is that the human body can withstand alot more stress than one thinks.

Boot camp and other army types of training, brings this to a clear point. Going with 2 to 4 hours of sleep, running miles and miles, and doing hundreds upon hundreds of pushups (and other exercises), withstanding severe cold, heat, and pain, proves one can do more than they think they can (when healthy), as MILLIONS of men and woman have gone through it.



Chillen
 
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Which is why im getting a 2 year early start. :)
Ganna need to be in top physical condition for Ranger school, their course is brutal.
 
What do you think is going to happen after your army term is up, the war is over, and you come back with no form of education and no future?
 
Phate89 said:
What do you think is going to happen after your army term is up, the war is over, and you come back with no form of education and no future?
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I'm ganna serve in the army for 20 years.
I'll either become an army recruitor.
Or just serve until it's time to retire.
The army is my only option.




Derwyddon said:
The truth is they don't always. You will have to do good on your military testing. Why dont' you just stay in highschool and THEN join the military? It's not going to be easier or more fun if that's what you think.
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I thought what you said was pretty funny.
Of course it's not going to be easy, but I love the thrill, and the challenge.
Im dedicated on serving my country, w/e it takes.
 
Bloodbath --

First of all, thank you for your decision to serve our country. I am glad there are people who recognize that this place is worth fighting for, regardless of how messed up we are some times.

Now a question -- does your school have JROTC ? That'd be a great way to get started on your military career.

If not, I think it'd be better strategically to finish up your school. It's easier to rise in the ranks and make a real career for yourself at that point. Even if that's not your goal, the battlefield is much more of a mental challenge than it ever has been in the past. The more prepared you are, the better.
 
Good morning. Like many that precede me on this thread, I commend your desire to serve this great country. I was in the army from 1989-1992 (served in the first Gulf War). The army can be a great experience, a great career.

Obviously, I don't know you or your situation. So if what I say here doesn't apply, so be it. But based on some things you've said here, I still get the idea that you are running away from something. The army is a great place to run to, but if you are running away from something, it can be a very miserable place.

I would never discourage a young man or woman from joining the service for the right reasons (desire to serve, desire for new experiences, money for college, support family, etc). Yes, you can still get in w/o a diploma (the army will make you get a GED), but if you at least get a diploma and take the SAT's, you'll probably score better on the ASVAB (the aptitude tests) and you would have a much better selection of jobs within the army (a lot of folks get skills in the army that they take into the civilian world). Without good scores, your choices will be minimal. Every job is important, of course, but some are more pleasant than others, some offer bigger enlistment bonuses than others, and some are more transferrable to the civilian market than others.

Whatever you do, you don't have to decide anything right this minute. Do take these things to heart. I certainly wish you the best. God bless you and your family
 
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