New research says breakfast is BAD for weightloss!

Hot water with lemon to soothe an upset stomach = makes sense.

Hot water with lemon to 'detox' your body and 'flush out all the toxins' = complete nonsense.

That is the difference.
 
Well..detox and cleansing is a myth.

Lemon/lime juice in water for an upset stomach is science. It helps break down the food and eases the amount of stomach acid..thus helping to settle upset stomachs.

This isn't detoxing or cleansing because we aren't removing anything (real or made up). This is easing the process. Nothing is sped up (ie metabolism).

There is a difference.
 
Rox said:
I just read an article in the New York Times that reported some scientific research that showed that the old weight-loss advice to "breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, and dine like a pauper" is not helpful at all.
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Rox, I've actually never heard that saying before!

I think the thing to keep in mind here is that the study only associated eating breakfast with a higher overall daily intake of calories... of course... it's an extra meal. The study, however, didn't associate this increase in caloric intake with weight gain. They took both normal weight and overweight people and BOTH groups showed greater daily caloric intake if they ate breakfast.

I've never advocated to my clients (or friends or family for that matter) to eat a large breakfast (or large meals in general). Eating large meals is not at all conducive to weight loss; breakfast is no exception.

Just my 2 cents :)
 
I've been brought up with that saying, but never really went with it. I can't eat in the mornings.

From what I can tell, what they are saying is that a large breakfast isn't a good idea. Makes sense to a certain degree, but if it fits into a person's daily intake, then even that shouldn't be a problem.

Personally, I don't really think it makes any difference. It depends on the person. As long as their overall calorie intake is okay, and they make good food choices, does it matter if they eat all their food in one sitting, or in several?

Personally, I tried to force myself to eat breakfast at some point, but I didn't enjoy the food at all, because I don't like to eat in the morning. So in the end I thought 'This is stupid, I am forcing myself to eat even though I don't want to'. So nowadays, I eat if I feel like it, and if I don't, I don't.

If I have breakfast, I usually have a smaller lunch (or no lunch at all). If I don't, it's a bigger lunch, or an extra snack. I've never noticed a difference in regards to weight loss.
 
In doing a little more research, I'm still finding that there's much more evidence out there showing that those who eat breakfast tend to have lower BMI's. Also, it's important what TYPES of food you eat for breakfast. The typical foods, cereal, bread, eggs, bacon, sausage, etc. are not great foods and yet this is what we all eat for our first meal of the day.

Our breakfasts may need a bit of an 'overhaul' so to speak so that we are eating only lean protein, whole grains, fruits, and veggies rather than greasy, processed, and refined foods.
 
San said:
I've been brought up with that saying, but never really went with it. I can't eat in the mornings.

From what I can tell, what they are saying is that a large breakfast isn't a good idea. Makes sense to a certain degree, but if it fits into a person's daily intake, then even that shouldn't be a problem.

Personally, I don't really think it makes any difference. It depends on the person. As long as their overall calorie intake is okay, and they make good food choices, does it matter if they eat all their food in one sitting, or in several?

Personally, I tried to force myself to eat breakfast at some point, but I didn't enjoy the food at all, because I don't like to eat in the morning. So in the end I thought 'This is stupid, I am forcing myself to eat even though I don't want to'. So nowadays, I eat if I feel like it, and if I don't, I don't.

If I have breakfast, I usually have a smaller lunch (or no lunch at all). If I don't, it's a bigger lunch, or an extra snack. I've never noticed a difference in regards to weight loss.
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I do agree with you that it's a personal thing whether or not you eat breakfast... some people just can't stomach it first thing in the morning.

It does make a big difference whether you eat most of your daily calories in one meal vs. several meals throughout the day. Eating smaller meals throughout the day helps to keep your blood sugar and insulin levels more even. The more even these 2 things are throughout the day, the less fat your body tends to store due to the excess insulin response.
 
Does that really make THAT much difference though? Just wondering - I actually don't eat all my calories in one meal, just for the record. I usually try to have 3, but that's my maximum.

I function better on an empty stomach. I feel more awake, and more energetic, if I haven't eaten. Once I've eaten anything, even just something small for lunch, I feel sluggish and tired for 2 - 3 hours. So I try to avoid too many meals, and sometimes just have one. Those are days where I don't eat enough, obviously, which is not ideal. Just not sure how to work around that to be honest.
 
Well, recent studies do say that the 6 meal a day vs 3 meal is more about preferences than need. I think it really does come to what you are comfortable with as far as that.
 
Jericho said:
Well, recent studies do say that the 6 meal a day vs 3 meal is more about preferences than need. I think it really does come to what you are comfortable with as far as that.
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I agree with that... if you look at the physiology, it says one thing, but if you are continually getting the results that you want from eating 3, then I wouldn't tell you to change that.

I don't necessarily think that everyone should eat 6 meals per day or anything, it's just that I probably would have a hard time accepting it if a client only ate 1 or 2 meals per day! I would probably try pretty hard to get them to eat at least 3 balanced meals... that's just me though :)
 
I personally tend to do 2 meals and snacks, but I always try to get protein even in a snack. I generally go by what I feel like. If I'm hungry in the morning I'll have a snack aka breakfast. If not, I just stick it out til lunch. Six meals a day is awful for me because it makes me hungrier... and I can't even say why!

Then again, I know people who do much better if they eat frequently, so it really does seem best to base this on individual response.
 
Justina said:
Yes thats true about the hotwater + lemon combo - it also clenses your body.
but its not instead of breakie - its before :) thats how i do it anyway
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I tend to do this as well along with maybe a small yogurt or some fruit - just something to keep me awake lol! I do snack on small things during the day though...I do usually eat more at lunch and dinner just how I am!
 
Protein Heavy

I used to skip breakfast and find myself very sluggish and not at all focused. I then started to eat the usual grain based foods -- cereal, toast, bagel, oatmeal -- and still found myself a little blah and actually more hungry by lunch than if I had eaten nothing at all.

I decided to eat lean protein based breakfasts -- eggwhite omelete with some sauteed veggies or a hard boiled egg or shredded chicken or smoked salmon -- and have found my energy and attention span really increase. So maybe it's not so much a big breakfast, a small breakfast, or no breakfast, it has to be the right breakfast.
 
DSP Fanatic said:
I used to skip breakfast and find myself very sluggish and not at all focused. I then started to eat the usual grain based foods -- cereal, toast, bagel, oatmeal -- and still found myself a little blah and actually more hungry by lunch than if I had eaten nothing at all.

I decided to eat lean protein based breakfasts -- eggwhite omelete with some sauteed veggies or a hard boiled egg or shredded chicken or smoked salmon -- and have found my energy and attention span really increase. So maybe it's not so much a big breakfast, a small breakfast, or no breakfast, it has to be the right breakfast.
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I really believe in having protein at breakfast. At least in my personal experience, I can also say that having protein in the morning makes a big difference in my energy levels throughout the morning. It also keeps me full longer. If I have mainly carbs, I'm hungry about an hour later. Also, the hunger is much worse if I have caffeine :)
 
For me the important thing is not to leave the table feeling hungry. And not to stay too long at the table - ie not to eat more than necessary to satisfy hunger.

Two pieces of toast and a scrape of butter with a cup of black tea would ruin me. I need a decent breakfast but is it defined anywhere what is considered a big breakfast?
 
fortyfour said:
For me the important thing is not to leave the table feeling hungry. And not to stay too long at the table - ie not to eat more than necessary to satisfy hunger.

Two pieces of toast and a scrape of butter with a cup of black tea would ruin me. I need a decent breakfast but is it defined anywhere what is considered a big breakfast?
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I haven't come across a definition of this yet. What I've heard from talking with a few dieticians is that for the most part your meals should be no more that approx 500-600 calories and snacks should be between 100-300 calories, depending on your overall intake goal is for the day and how far apart your meals are. 500-600 calories can be a bit much for some people for breakfast, though...
 
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