need some guidance oh great weight-people!

ok. So here's my story.

Right now, i'm nearing 16 years old. Am 5 foot 11 or so, not as broad-shouldered as i'd like to be (but only time will tell) and due to low self esteem, for the last 2 and a half years, i've focussed on fitness and my body to take my mind off that.

I did rowing for 2 years, which involved maybe 2 or 3 hours training a day, but that wasn';t focussed around the upper body enough for me, and after 2 years (maybe 4 months ago) i quit despite being quite good :S.

So after 2 months of very little exercise apart from roller blading, i bought some weights.

Since then i've been using the dumbells mainly, and the routine has gradually progressed.

I used to do 8KG on each arm, maybe 50 arm-curls on each, and then 50 sit ups, and 30 press ups a night. after the first week i stepped the weights up to 10KG, and since 2 weeks ago, i've been doing 100 arm curls of 10KG dumbells on each arm, 50 press ups, and 60 sit ups each night. My right arm has gained an extra inch circumference in the past 3 weeks or so, so i'm happy with that.

I've heard though that doing weights like this every night is bad for your arms, and doesnt leave time for the muscle tissue to repair, and hence causes problems. Is this true?

Also, is there anything i can do to make it a more muscular building process (protein shakes? Do they work?).

And finally, is this enough, is there a better routine i could set up, mainly focussing on upper-body?

Thanks
 
ok. So here's my story.

Right now, i'm nearing 16 years old. Am 5 foot 11 or so, not as broad-shouldered as i'd like to be (but only time will tell) and due to low self esteem, for the last 2 and a half years, i've focussed on fitness and my body to take my mind off that.

I am all about uplifting the ole' self-esteem....... Lets rock it to fricken orbit. If exercising and diet.........helps this...you have definately come to the right place at the right time! If you have another issues you want to express let me know.....I will assist the brotha!




I did rowing for 2 years, which involved maybe 2 or 3 hours training a day, but that wasn';t focussed around the upper body enough for me, and after 2 years (maybe 4 months ago) i quit despite being quite good :S.

What type of rowing for two years?

So after 2 months of very little exercise apart from roller blading, i bought some weights.

Since then i've been using the dumbells mainly, and the routine has gradually progressed.

I used to do 8KG on each arm, maybe 50 arm-curls on each, and then 50 sit ups, and 30 press ups a night. after the first week i stepped the weights up to 10KG, and since 2 weeks ago, i've been doing 100 arm curls of 10KG dumbells on each arm, 50 press ups, and 60 sit ups each night. My right arm has gained an extra inch circumference in the past 3 weeks or so, so i'm happy with that.

What kind of weights do you have. Do you have a longbar and short bar? I think we need to switch some things from dumbell use (dependent upon what you are doing) to some compound exercises--if you have the equipment.

Congrats on the progress thus far. But, I believe through diet and changing some things in your routine we could possibly improve results.


I've heard though that doing weights like this every night is bad for your arms, and doesnt leave time for the muscle tissue to repair, and hence causes problems. Is this true?

ALL muscles of the human body need rest and recuperation: The "stimulation" for growth occurs in the gym; actual growth occurs outside the gym during rest and recuperation days along with a proper diet.

Also, is there anything i can do to make it a more muscular building process (protein shakes? Do they work?).

Proper diet with a total circumference of nutrients (not just protein), weight training stimulation along with proper rest will build muscle.

Protein shakes in a diet are just fine for the Protein portion of the nutrients needed.

And finally, is this enough, is there a better routine i could set up, mainly focussing on upper-body?

Thanks


You want to build the upper body? Then build the LOWER BODY as well. Yes, there is a way to set up a good program for overall lean tissue mass gaines, and I recommend adjoining the upper and lower body in a detailed minimum 3x weekly program.

Do you have knowledge of how to configure you daily caloric requirements? If Not I will assist the brotha in the right direction.

Hey......what do you say........shall we rock and roll?


ROCK ON!


Brotha!


Best wishes



Chillen
 
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I am all about uplifting the ole' self-esteem.......Let rock it to fricken orbit. If exercising and diet.........helps this...you have definately come to the right place at the right time! If you have another issues you want to express let me know.....I will assist the brotha!






What type of rowing for two years?

Hmmm, for the first year, mainly sculling, but for the second (more intense) sweep-oar rowing, usually in eights.



What kind of weights do you have. Do you have a longbar and short bar? I think we need to switch some things from dumbell use (dependent upon what you are doing) to some compound exercises--if you have the equipment.

I have 4 X 5KG weights, 8 X 2KG weights 4 X 1KG weights and maybe a 10KG barbell, and 2 dumbells! No bench (will get one in maybe 2 months when my room is extended!), and as of today, that seems all!! Have plenty of money to buy new equipment though should need call

Congrats on the progress thus far. But, I believe through diet and changing some things in your routine we could possibly improve results.

Hmmmm, well, my diet currently consists of 4 of my 5 fruit a day. quite a lot of carbohydrates, and little protein (but have started protein shake after exercise). Would be willing to modify it of course




ALL muscles of the human body need rest and recuperation: The "stimulation" for growth occurs in the gym; actual growth occurs outside the gym during rest and recuperation days along with a proper diet.



Proper diet with a total circumference of nutrients (not just protein), weight training stimulation along with proper rest will build muscle.

Protein shakes in a diet are just fine for the Protein portion of the nutrients needed.




You want to build the upper body? Then build the LOWER BODY as well. Yes, there is a way to set up a good program for overall lean tissue mass gaines, and I recommend adjoining the upper and lower body in a detailed minimum 3x weekly program.

Do you have knowledge of how to configure you daily caloric requirements? If Not I will assist the brotha in the right direction.

I have plenty of knowledge, but not what it takes to calculating my requirements, so would love some help there

Hey......what do you say........shall we rock and roll?

Hell yes. I've got the commitment, and determination. I'm all ears.



ROCK ON!


Brotha!


Best wishes



Chillen


thanks for your help mate!!!
 
ALRIGHTY THEN!!!!!!!!!.............we move the BROTHA! :)

Some basics to begin.........to move the brotha in the right direction:

The road to potentially bulking:


The road to your goal, is gaining knowledge of calories and nutrition within a diet proportioned to your age, wgt, hgt, and gender, which includes associated activities.

Then developing a scheduled training plan per week (which allows recuperation time) that compliments---a clean diet. When both are developed, then the key is consistency and then watching, looking, and being very mindful, of your bodily responses to your diet and training stimulus.



Surplus dieting is the MAIN thing that does the job.

Some Basic information that can lead you to weight tissue gain

Calorie calculation is an approximation science, remember this. Through your journey WATCH, LOOK, and LISTEN, to your body..........it will TELL YOU if your doing the correct things or combination of things!


○ Change your eating habits (below are some suggestion examples)

○ Substitute an artificial sweetener of your choice in the replace of refined white sugar (Refrain from Refined Sugar like you would a disease)

○ Try eating 5 to 6 smaller meals during the day

○ Balance your meals out during the day so in one day you have a mix of protein, carbohydrate and good fats

○ Drink lots of water during the day and before, during and after exercise

○ Simple Carb Examples: Grapefruit, Watermelon, Cantaloupe, Strawberries, Oranges, Apples, Pineapple, etc

○ Complex Carb Examples: Whole Wheat Pita Bread, Oatmeal, Long Grain Brown Rice, Brown Pasta, Malto-Meal (Plain, whole wheat),etc

○ Good Protein Examples: White or Dark Tuna, Chicken Breast, Lean Turkey, Lean Ham, Very lean Beef, Quality Whey Protein Powder,, etc

○ Good Fats Examples: Natural Peanut Butter, Various Nuts, Flax Seed, Fish Oils.

This is what you need to do:

This an approximation science, but you can narrow it down very close, if your meticulous in your vision when looking at the data.

Tweak your desire and passion by educating yourself on the basic requirements of losing fat tissue. With your age, sex, height, and weight, in mind, find your approximated base calorie needs (this is organ function, breathing, or bodily function needs). One can use the Benedict Formula.

Calculate your BMR:

The Harris Benedict equation determines calorie needs for men or woman as follows:

• It calculates your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) calorie requirements, based on your height, weight, age and gender.

• It increases your BMR calorie needs by taking into account the number of calories you burn through activities such as exercise.

This gives you your total calorie requirement or approximated Maintenance Line (I call it the MT Line).

Step One : Calculate your BMR with the following formula:

•Women: BMR = 655 + (4.35 x weight in pounds) + (4.7 x height in inches) - (4.7 x age in years)
•Men: BMR = 66 + (6.23 x weight in pounds) + (12.7 x height in inches) - (6.8 x age in years)

Step Two : In order to incorporate activity into your daily caloric needs, do the following calculation:

•If you are sedentary : BMR x 1.2
•If you are lightly active: BMR x 1.375
•If you are moderately active (You exercise most days a week.): BMR x 1.55
•If you are very active (You exercise daily.): BMR x 1.725
•If you are extra active (You do hard labor or are in athletic training.): BMR x 1.9

Create a Calorie Deficit:


The calorie surplus margin is just an example:

Apply this knowledge by going over the approximated MT Line (approximated Maintenance line), say for example, a +500c per day, for about 1 week.

Before the week begins, weigh yourself in the AM when you FIRST get up (do not eat yet) (remember your clothing, preferably with just underwear and t-shirt or like clothes).

Note the time, and the approximated wgt.

Each day spread your caloric content out throughout the day (keep the body fed, with calories in the 300 to 500c approximated calories each meal), or a like division which mirrors your end caloric deficit limit (meaning MT +500c).

This way you have your entire day and body encircled with nutrition (I assume you already know to eat clean), which if your eating right, will give an approximated good energy.

At the end of the week, on the same day, the same time, with the same like clothes, weigh yourself again. Note whether you lost or gained tissue (or weight I mean).


If this didn't happen, this means you need to make finer adjustments, and the MT line is not accurate, and you need to adjust this on your own.

Based upon the FEEDBACK your body is giving you, ask yourself how faithful you were on the diet, AND how faithful in training (whether you kept the training schedule (if you didn't, this would effect the caloric equation, no?!), AND how accurate you figured in your activities caloric wise.........but, you have the base information to begin making adjustments.
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The Nutrients are an essential factor in the diet; however, the law of energy balance within the DIET, is the ultimate KING while the Nutrients can play in some decisions made within the body.

Do yourself a favor, figure out your MT line, adjust off of this, eat well balanced spaced out meals (DONT EVER starve YOURSELF), AND listen to your body for the results.

While you are trying to figure out your body, IT WILL PAY YOU BACK, I promise. You have to learn to MASTER yourself to become the master of weight loss for YOURSELF.
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"Let your inner vision cultivate your ultimate exterior expression" —Chillen

"The strongest inner feeling that prevails will result in the exterior expression" –Chillen

"Your cultivation and manifestation of thought accumulated within your reasoning will determine your outcome"----Chillen
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The most effective beginning is to look at your diet, and make a diet journal in my opinion, THEN work in a training program around this diet.

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Have controlled obsession (and obsession to a---Point, is necessary), but some lose this obsession once they learn the amount of work it requires. There eyes then widen and then the obsession then pops right out. Dont let this happen to you: Raise your Want-o-Meter to a new higher level.

Best Regards,


Chillen
 
Weight progression EXAMPLE:

A Weight Program is a structured "Weight Lifting" Plan that you schedule certain exercises for a given time period.

For example: Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Rest Saturday and Sunday, and then repeat.

For example (for simplicity's sake), schedule a full body workout on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and then rest on the weekend. The program should be complimenting the sort of diet you have and the goals you seek.

I recommend a writing down the exercises, weight being used, and then keeping track of the reps completed---to track progression, and if need be enable FORCE progression techniques. The KEY to training, is PROGRESSION. Trying with FULL THROTTLE to progress from one workout to the next (whether its an increase in reps or weight or both).

For example: you used 100lbs on Bent Over row and did 8 reps. The next workout with the back you want to get 9 reps, and so on and so forth. If the target cut off rep range is 12 (for example), then you would increase about 5 lbs. This is progression in its simple basic form.

I believe you have to track progress because its CRITICAL to ones success and to strength and/or muscle gains.
 
This is what you need to do:

1. Get the diet right
2. Have a training schedule each week (that involves full body)


As far as ab or torso training (2 major lifts that should be apart of your routine if you have the weights and equipment)

1. Squats: this exercise incorporates the torso indirectly, besides the obvious benefit of leg work, it does give the torso a good indirect workout, and and can build upper and lower mass

2. Deadlifts: build over all upper body mass and work the torso indirectly, a must have, brotha.

3. Keep the reps for the abs and torso at 25 or below, and add weight if necessary (the torso and abs are a high endurance muscle, but you dont want to to 100 reps, this is rediculous)

Start out with no weight until you reach the first set of 25 reps. IF on the first set you reach 25R, then add a 2 1/2 lb plate (as an example) on the second set, and then continue, and then do a 3rd. Be progressive. Each time the FIRST set hits 25, add weight.

Types of excercises: Crunch, Reverse crunch. Hanging leg raises, Leg lifts are a few starting examples. Pick one, AND do 3 sets. At the begining I suggest just one exercise of 3 sets, and as you progress you can add in another--just for simplicity sake.

I include weighted half-up sit ups (about 30 degrees up or thereabouts--some dont like these because it involves the hip flexors, but I get good strength volume from it, so see if works for you.

Schedule this about 3 times a week, and treat it as any other muscle. Allow rest time: this example gives about 4 days in one week.

But remember, doing these exercises isnt the the key in getting the abs to show, its the diet that does this. The exercises will strengthen the area no doubt, but place the diet above these exercises. Be PROGRESSIVE in the ab area as you are in your other training.
 
Read the other posts and then I will assist YOU in developing YOUR own program.

I also suggest your own joural in the correct portion of the of the forum: You could impart your diet, routine, ask questions, present your feelings. Alot of eyes see these journals.........and I think you would get alot of critical detailed assistance along the way.........


Rock on MATE!


Best regards,



Chillen
 
why work on just your upper body? TRUST ME YOU DO NOT WANT THAT. i'm a track athlete and my legs are VERY well developed, but my upper body looks like crap compared to my legs. now i'm trying to gain mass in my upper body to catch up with my legs. it's kinda the same for you. if you work on just your upper body but have pencil legs, what good would that do? work on your whole body. i'm just 16 so i can't really give you a program but trust me you do NOT want to work on just your upper body.
 
Step One : Calculate your BMR with the following formula:


•MY BMR = 66 + (6.23 x 132) + (12.7 x 71) - (6.8 x 15) = 1892

Step Two : In order to incorporate activity into your daily caloric needs, do the following calculation:

•If you are sedentary : BMR x 1.2
•If you are lightly active: BMR x 1.375
•If you are moderately active (You exercise most days a week.): BMR x 1.55
•If you are very active (You exercise daily.): BMR x 1.725
•If you are extra active (You do hard labor or are in athletic training.): BMR x 1.9

i've gone for very active. I do 30 mins of weights every day, walk around loads, and will often do half an hour roller blading, running, and similar stuff. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Therefore 1,892 X 1.725 = 3,264





So there's my BMR.

About the meals and diet. It would be hard for me (being in a full time education with high-school lunches) to be able to keep a strict clock on the kind of meals im eating and when. I've been thinking, and the best i could maye be do is something like this:

7.30am Breakfast!!
11am Maybe a small pasta meal (or something of the sort.)
1pm (general lunch)
4pm (another small meal, like the pasta thing)
7pm (a larger, but could moderate this, dinner)




Also, i didn't quite understand the part, just under the BMR calculation in your post about the necessary calorific requirements, and something about +500c, would this just be the gauge what kind of diet is perfect for your body, by checking the weight after a week. What would the ideal result be to know it is the right amount/diet?

Thanks.
 
Step One : Calculate your BMR with the following formula:


•MY BMR = 66 + (6.23 x 132) + (12.7 x 71) - (6.8 x 15) = 1892

You may want to double check that calculation of 1892 ....... I think it's a bit high.....seems you added the last term instead of subtracting it. :)


About the meals and diet. It would be hard for me (being in a full time education with high-school lunches) to be able to keep a strict clock on the kind of meals im eating and when. I've been thinking, and the best i could maye be do is something like this:

7.30am Breakfast!!
11am Maybe a small pasta meal (or something of the sort.)
1pm (general lunch)
4pm (another small meal, like the pasta thing)
7pm (a larger, but could moderate this, dinner)

It's not as hard as you think. The goal is simply to ramp up your calories in a smart way and there are some very simple ways you can do this...

- eat larger portions at eat meal
- eat more often during the day
- consume more ' calorie dense ' foods where you can
- have late night snacks ( i.e around 10 p.m.+/- )​

...so you just pack a lot of good snacks in your backpack at school or grab some decent snacks from the vending machine at school to keep adding calories throughout the day.

Also, i didn't quite understand the part, just under the BMR calculation in your post about the necessary calorific requirements, and something about +500c, would this just be the gauge what kind of diet is perfect for your body, by checking the weight after a week. What would the ideal result be to know it is the right amount/diet?Thanks.

It's just a guideline. All you want to do is find your ' maintenance calories '. If you bump it by 500 calories a day, in theory you should gain some weight - either in fat and/ or muscle. For example, it takes an extra 3,500 of excess calories to gain 1 lbs of fat - so in a week ( 7 days ) that is an extra 500 calories a day ( 3,500 = 7 days x 500 ). So, sometimes 500 is used just as a rule of thumb for simplicity sake.

In other cases, it has been suggested you bump your ' maintenance calories ' by around 20 % or so. Let's say your ' maintenance calories ' are 2,900 calories a day. An extra 500 at 2,900 is a bump of around 17 %. If someone's ' maintenance calories ' were 4,000 calories a day, an extra 500 is a bump of only around 11 %. And, if someone's ' maintenance calories ' were 2,000 calories a day, an extra 500 is a bump of around 25%. You get the point.

The other thing to keep in mind is that this Harris Benedict equation is just a rough estimate and it may be overstated in cases in which people are overfat. So, someone who is 20% body fat and someone who is 10 % body fat would yield the same BMR, even though the fatter person doesn't need as many calories for their maintenance calories due to having lower lean mass at the same bodyweight. In other words these calculators are just rough estimates.
 
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