Muscle hyperplasia

You're saying 'it's not possible'. Which means if 'a veritable wild kingdom of evidence' is available, it's obviously possible.

I didn't say it wasn't possible.

I simply said you can't make definitive conclusions about humans solely on the basis of cat, rat and bird studies...which simply represent indirect evidence.

In any event, in his " scientific opinion ", he thinks hyperplasia is only a relevant issue for elite bodybuilders and hyperplasia is pretty much a a non-issue for the rest of us gym rats .:)
 
Just on a side note to all thee believers, which at least informs me of the generally poor knowledge of poeple in here :p

So say if hyperplasia did occur, unlike the liver which has a set size, what stops the muscle from continualy growing?

If you don't force the body to adapt, it's not going to.

Generally poor knowledge of people here? Each class you've told Karky to take I've already taken in graduate school, so save me your uneducated remarks. And that doesn't mean I'm right, but it does mean educated people can not conform. Because although he may be young, he's very educated. I share his viewpoint on this topic.

You left this thread when people had points you couldn't address, and came back when someone else shared your idea.
 
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If you don't force the body to adapt, it's not going to.
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Somewhat related to ' adaption ' ..

In Dr. Antonio's article it is his opinion that hyperplasia is likely only relevant to ' elite ' bodybuilders.

What would you think it is that distinguishes ' elite bodybuilders ' from ' non-elite bodybuilders ' such that hyperplasia becomes a non-issue for gym rats and average bodybuilders ?

So, it appears hyperplasia works for cats, rats and birds and ' elite bodybuilders '....but not for ' non-elite bodybuilders ' and average gym rats according to Dr. Antonio ?
 
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I'm not sure what Dr.Antonio's specific opinion is, or if he even distinguishes between elite or not. But in my personal opinion, I don't think hyperplasia is the first choice of adaptation for the body, neurological adaption is. But I think it's when people make the mistake of over training: literally, with a great diet, plenty of rest and all other metabolic factors available in excess; The body has the capability to divide the muscle cells, and as a near last resort to avoid further damage to the muscle cells (over training) they divide.

Considering few people have every aspect (minus overtraining) of these criteria, I think hyperplasia is saved for the upper level, serious lifters. On a side note, I think people who work in jobs like construction (real grunt work) everyday for many years would most likely experience some type of hyperplasia also.





EDIT** Serious lifting, coupled with enough sleep and plenty of food (proper food) has shown to increase natural levels of hormones known to cause hyperplasia in excess dosages. This probably would play a role in my scenario..
 
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The experiment with animals proves that the cells have the capability to divide. And the limited experiments with humans, show that at least our cells do too.
 
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