Most excellent squat article

Steve

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I forgot about this article... came across it yesterday and it's a phenomenal read. Dave is talking about box squatting, but the commentary applies to both box and regular squatting.

Plus, box squatting would probably serve many of the people around here well to teach proper activation of the posterior chain (primarily glutes and hams) during the squat.

If you feel like you want to fall over squatting, chances are you're having trouble activating the glutes and hams while squatting or you have an imbalance.

Check er out.

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I saw that article yesterday - and while big weights are relative to the person - I'm sure my 40ish pounds don't qualify - it was a good article...

and that picture above the white men can't jump article reminded me of your hawaii peeing pic :D

**i'm not really a prude but I hate the pictures they have on that site... they've got so much good information - the scantily clad muscle babes really seem, to me anyhow, detract from the quality of information*8
 
Box squatting is something I've used with success to teach people to squat properly.... so it's not just about moving big weights.

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T-nation has some diamonds in the rough in terms of articles. Anymore though, it's a shit pen. They rehash the same shit over and over again acting as if it's new.

For someone who isn't up to snuff in terms of all the fundamentals, sure... they can attain some useful nuggets from the articles.... beyond that though, I rarely check it out anymore.

And the pictures are just par for the course..... their audience base is primarily male meatheads who like that stuff. They'd never expect their articles to be linked to a forum such as this.
 
"Push your stomach out"

Do you do this, Steve?

I'm still reading through, but that seems counterintuitive, and if I'm putting max effort in, it seems like I'd poop my pants.
 
I do in max effort lifts, have them be 1rm or rep maxes.

It's a matter of pushing your belly out while simultaneously contracting your abdominals.

When I'm not doing max efforts, everything is pretty automatic.... to be honest I'm not sure if I'm doing it or not.
 
Interesting read... I was never too big into box squats... Still don't know if I'm gonna incorporate 'em into my routine, but they'd be worth at least another look at.
 
"Push your stomach out"

Do you do this, Steve?

I'm still reading through, but that seems counterintuitive, and if I'm putting max effort in, it seems like I'd poop my pants.

sounds like a new market for depends weight lifting drawers :D
 
Box squatting is something I've used with success to teach people to squat properly.... so it's not just about moving big weights..

Hey Steve.

What would you say is the most challenging aspect your clients face in ' learning ' to do squats properly - i.e. the most difficult aspect of squats they have trouble grasping or the biggest mistakes they continue to make ( assuming they think they already know how to do squats ) ?
 
Interesting read... I was never too big into box squats... Still don't know if I'm gonna incorporate 'em into my routine, but they'd be worth at least another look at.

They're actually fantastic for explosive strength and power.

I use them on occassion... used to more so when I was competitive in sports.

Now I implement them into my coaching more so for education of novices in the squat.

Check out the article here from 2005 called benefits of box squatting.

I recommended you check out their site before... those boys are the real deal.

 
Hey Steve.

What would you say is the most challenging aspect your clients face in ' learning ' to do squats properly - i.e. the most difficult aspect of squats they have trouble grasping or the biggest mistakes they continue to make ( assuming they think they already know how to do squats ) ?

The largest problem is working with people who have been squatting before. Chances are they learned from someone who had no idea what the hell they were talking about. Now they've been doing an exercise for months if not years incorrectly, and once motor patterns are learned in the brain, they're a hard thing to correct/change. Much, much harder than teaching something new from scratch.

Bad form builds upon itself.

By that I mean, using improper mechanics usually over-develops a certain muscle or group of muscles and under-develops another. The problem becomes perpetual and worse the more they perform what they call a squat, making it harder to correct.

That's the most common problem I see in gyms.

Beyond that, with raw novices you have the basic/usual suspects found in a predominantly sedentary population; tons of kintetic chain imbalances. Weak/underactive glutes, tight calves and ankle complexes, and poor lumbar stabilization are probably the most common, which really do a number on squat form.

Most people think they can't get deep in their squats b/c of poor hamstring flexibility. That's rarely the case since they don't actually go through a ton of length change in a typical squat (simultaneous knee flexion = shortening / hip flexion = lengthening).

Other than those issues, it's a matter of how well the coach can cue the squat. You have to know what to say and where to touch a person so that their mind understands and can control what their body should be doing. For example, most think it's simply a matter of bending the knees to go down. No. And that's why the box squat is useful.... it's about sitting BACK with your hips and butt while maintaining upper body tightness. From there, the knees will follow, assuming efficiency of the kinteic chain.

BTW, nice to see you over here. :)
 
Looks like a definite Article im going to read after SXSW tonight. I'm bookmarking it...nice post Steve
 
how do you figure out what height box you need? i know he says most need 12"-14" inch but i'm guessing most of his readers are not 4'9".
 
That will vary, but in general......

Assuming you have no issues going on... the box should be set so that at the bottom of the movement, your hips are an inch or so below parallel.
 
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