military press behind or in front of head?

Well irregardless of the publications reputation, it has worked for me and I haven't noticed any strain in my rotator cuff.

The Key phrase here is "I haven't noticed".
Thats true, you haven't noticed. But you may notice in 10 years time. You may even notice it tomorow.
 
Never pull or push behind the neck. It is not ergonomically a motion that imitates some movement in sport. It is an unnatural angle, and at the bottom of the motion, weaker support muscles take over at the end of the ROM of the primary moves. They are not designed to move heavy things. They are designed to "support" primaries, so don't isolate them. Bad.
 
Evo will come in and bash my behind the neck opinion. But in the end, a LOT more injuries occur while pressing behind the neck.

lol...yup. I completely agree with JP.

I believe in the benefit to cost ratio. I've yet to see any benefit that going behind the neck can give you that in front can't and with the added touch with what JP added, it's not a movement I would prescribe.
 
i never do any workouts that go behind the head, (shoulder press/ lat pull down) . Dont know if its bad or not, but just my preference.
 
WOW! This issue damn near sparked a riot.

If you have strength troubles doing military in front of you....it usually means your core strength and ability to co-contract is pretty bad.

Traps are used to execute "elevation" type movements....layman: YOU SHRUG WITH THEM.

Man....I'm loving this debate:D
 
WOW! This issue damn near sparked a riot.

If you have strength troubles doing military in front of you....it usually means your core strength and ability to co-contract is pretty bad.

Traps are used to execute "elevation" type movements....layman: YOU SHRUG WITH THEM.

Man....I'm loving this debate:D

Debates are healthy, now, who wants to join me and form a "against behind the neck" party? :p
anyways, i think all opinions have been spoken for.
 
I hate to be the lone dissenter, but the advantage to behind the neck presses is in targetting the lateral delts verses the front delts. Has anybody read the book: "7 Minute Rotator Cuff Solution"? They highly recommend behind the neck presses as a preventative for rotator cuff problems. I have done them for 40+ years and highly recommend them also.

And, to disagree with yet another point, although standing presses are probably the best in terms of activating the maximum stabalizing muscles, seated presses help isolate body movement out of the pressing motion and are a good change of pace from standing presses. If you do the same movements all the time you at the very least get very bored.
 
I hate to be the lone dissenter, but the advantage to behind the neck presses is in targetting the lateral delts verses the front delts. Has anybody read the book: "7 Minute Rotator Cuff Solution"? They highly recommend behind the neck presses as a preventative for rotator cuff problems. I have done them for 40+ years and highly recommend them also.

And, to disagree with yet another point, although standing presses are probably the best in terms of activating the maximum stabalizing muscles, seated presses help isolate body movement out of the pressing motion and are a good change of pace from standing presses. If you do the same movements all the time you at the very least get very bored.

well do they recommend doing it with heavy weight? If you did it with a light weight and not going near faliure, i guess it could be good as that kind of thing. I do think if you can handle pressing behind the neck without pain, if you have the shoulder flexibility and those small muscles are strong enough to handle it, then its ok. but thats not true for most people.
 
I think that's not most people because most neglect to isolate their cuffs, trying to call stabilization exercises enough.

Personally I go behind the neck, heavy, to the shoulders. But I would NEVER recommend that to anyone who couldn't make the decision themselves, it does put extreme strain on the cuff and without proper prehab, can lead to injury.
 
agreed mreik! Personally i have done press behind the shoulders, but i have also done cuff isolation and i was fine, but anyway, if you do it, it could be a good idea to vary it every now and then, to give your shoulders a rest from the heavy strain.
 
Tony - are you being spotted? When using a barbell do it standing up.
Yes, I'm being spotted MOK. I have changed it recently though. Since I am trying to put a lot more focus on "core" embedded movements, I do STANDING Barbell presses, behind the head (just to take stress off of the lower back some) and I do SEATED dumbell presses (on different days of course). Thanks for your concern though :D
 
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