Maryann's trail....Rotation Diet "version"....

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MaryannC

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Hi Guys - here's my story - I would be happy for any inspiration, ideas , advice, criticism...

....I have been "trying" at this for almost(most ) of my 51 years...& I am STILL trying - I am so glad I found this WLF site and other folks facing weight-loss efforts....


~ I am a 51 years old married gal , live in a small rural town ( pop. 2,000 people) - in Alberta , Canada. - have struggled with weight issues for most of my life - weigh 250lbs. today (Sheesh) & made up my mind this week to get-bak-on-wagon working at weight loss.....


Motivation/History :
- frustrated fed-up with being overweight for so much of my life( have struggled with weight since childhood).
- have lost weight numerous times, only to creep-back, gain back & more each time.
- starting to really find degree of overweight affecting my quality of life ( fitting in airplane seats, movie theater seats, tired/hot all the time, won't go flying with husband on private plane because too embarassed to give weight,( health - blood pressure, not diabetic yet, but fearful of .)
- have annual medical with family MD this Oct.2012 - am 15lbs.up from last year - immediate goal-to lose those 15lbs.before MD appointment, have friends wedding in Oct., and trip in end Nov. - would like to have some weight-loss before those events., and then continue weight-loss until I reach goal weight of 120lbs.- then work on maintaining weight at goal.

Recent insight :
- I went to a workshop on addiction ( for work ) ( to help counsel patients on quitting smoking - ), workshop had some excellent insights into addiction/addictive behaviors - used some of the ideas to reflect on my own behaviors with eating ( I have developed many "unhealthy" eating habits over the years - I use food for comfort, rather than for healthy nutrition ( I eat poor choices( junk food, carbs ) - especially when upset / & or bored,( & I suspect it is the junk-food/carbs that create my further cravings for more junk food/carbs, and have developed habit of preferring/chosing those junk foods/carbs as 1st choice ) , rather than follow healthy nutrition/healthy food choices.
- one technique the workshop recommended is to look at a scale of 1/10- how important is it to change your issue ?( 10/10 for me with weight), how confident do you feel you can change/deal with your issue ? ( I felt 5/10 in confidence) , What would it take to move to more-confident? I felt some science(proven approach) might help me., Has anything worked for you in past with this issue ? ( I did have some success in past with logging/food diary + calorie restriction ( Nutra system, LA weight loss, The Rotation Diet ) .

Plan:
- decided I would sign-up for Dr.Bernstein weight-loss clinic ( Medically supervised low-cal program) - but when I contacted them - (and googled a bit on-line for others' experiences) - found it is quite costly ( ~ $100. /week) & very strict ( daily clinic visits - I live rurally-would mean 1 hr drive each way for me to get to their clinic, and weekly vitamin injections ( I work in health-care , am a bit "leary" about a "clinic" injecting me, especially so frequently ), and comments on-line from others on the program were mostly negative ( gained weight back, could not maintain/tolerate the extrememly low calories).
- so , feeling that Dr.Bernstein might be a bit too extreme/not sustainable for me, I started pondering on what else I might try , ...per the Addiction course - thought back again on what worked for me in the past- did lose some on LA Weight loss ( but again -that one involves travel/1hr each way & $$$ , then remembered also lost a fair amount on the Rotation Diet in my late 20's (its' a book by Dr.M.Katahn) ( published way back in 1986) - dug thru my closet & still have the book !
- it's a 3 week plan - varying calorie amounts, then rest/off diet for at least 1 week, repeat diet on/off cycles as desired, until reach desired total of weight loss. - ...so , I reviewed the first week groceries needed, made my shopping list,
got the groceries ( lotssss of veggies - they are the back-bone of this diet,and low-fat), and some healthy/lean protien, healthy whole-grain low-carb, bit of fruit ( it's actually a very healthy plan ).
- so here I go , first week - quite hungry first day - googled Rotation diet ( seeking how others were doing with it, looking for tips on dealing with the hunger ) & found link to the Rotation Diet thread on this weight-loss.fitness.com site - it helped - thread reminded me about "free-veggies", I whipped some up, hunger was satisfied, and I've squeezed off 6lbs. this first week ( likely a lot of it is water weight, but still am very happy with it.)- am reading thru the entire book now ( Dr.Katahn writes in a very simple, but compelling style) - I am really finding his recommendations reasonable /and I am identifying with his own history and struggle with weight. I am currently reading his chapter on exercise, and that introducing ( and then maintaining) daily exercise , will be the key to keep weight stable/off , ( once I have reached my goal ) - his calculations - for my degree of overweight - 100+ lbs. over - I will likely need 1 & 1/2hrs exercise daily for life, to keep my weight stable,....a fair amount....but doable- a 1/2hr walk at lunch, and 1hr in evening ( treadmill, walk, golf , Zumba ) - think I'll mix it up to keep from getting bored. - I am hopeful, that with enough time at healthy-eating, I won't creep back to junk-food/old diet - and that with healthy daily diet long-term, will be able to maintain weight with less than the 1 & 1/2hrs daily exercise(but will see.)

- so , am feeling like I have a very reasonable, healthy, maintainable, not too expensive, not excessive driving, not scary/extreme clinic, plan. - follow rotation diet ( I am planning 5/7 days each week- low-cal on-diet week days/, off-diet normal eating on weekends ) - continue this for 3 week stretches, have 1-2 weeks breaks between rotations, repeat , as tolerated, until I reach goal weight, keep up with his exercise recommendation - have done the 15mins.+ daily this week, am now moving to the 1/2hr daily for 2nd week, will then move up to 45mins.daily until reach goal weight/or until am fit-enuf to work up to the 1 & 1/2hrs daily he recommends for someone with my degree of overweight. ( * I plan to adjust amount exercise a needed, once I am at goal weight- and exercise enuf to keep weight stable, without being excessive - to avoid injury and support being able to maintain the exercises.)
- here I go - maybe by spring 2013 - I'll have lost enough to brave admitting my weight to my husband , and be able to go fly with him on the small planes he pilots. It's a bright sunny day here today - clear blue sky - he's headed out for a flight , and I am here at home (boring)- so will eat my crab salad / triscuits/fruit for lunch, do my yard work & take dog for 1/2hr walk, and keep heading to my goal to "fly" with hubby ! healthy / slim/ & happy. :)


cheers,

Maryann C. :)
 
Hey my lovely and WELCOME! :grouphug: We are a lovely bunch on the diary section so hope you'll carry on posting! Will you be logging your food each day? Have heard of rotation diet but thought the strict calories and then way it changes each day would confuse me. How many caloires per day is it?


You seem to know what you need to do--It's great you have a dog, they *need* to be walked so it's not like you have a choice about exercising and I'm sure your pooch will appreciate it too!


A private plane sounds AMAZING! How on earth did he get one of those?! What a fantastic incentive to lose weight--You'll be sitting back in the plane with a glass of bubbly before you know it!


Hana xx
 
Hi Hana -thanks for the welcome.


Rotation diet - not too tricky( I have the book -)- there is an easy to follow menu plan , calories recommended for women: 600cals/day x 3 days, then 900cals/day x 4 days, then 1200cals/day x 7 days, then repeat the 600/900 week.

....I am quite heavy right now ( 250lbs.)-so the 600/900 cals too little for me - I increased the protein/carb serving sizes a bit & started with 900-1,000/caloires/day this week (x5days)-worked well - I lost 6 lbs., am taking weekend off, then plan back to 900-1,000cals/day on Monday.


Yes, my pooch Koko is a good support - she is always so happy to go for a walk, gets excited whenever I pick up her leash...will be a good motivator for walks.


Hubby has private pilots liscence, but does not own his own plane, just rents the plane when he flies, ....I am really hopeful I will achieve my goal- so that I can go up with him soon.


I'm not planning to post my food each day ( as am already keeping a food-diary in a note book I keep in my kitchen)(too much work to write it out 2nd time here on-line)...but will try & log in here with my weight and progress, and share issues and (hopefully) successes.


today, first non-diet day after the Rotation diet during week, am finding I am satisfied with less food than pre-rotation week, and did include a salad in my lunch ( as now have lots "green" groceries in my fridge from rotation-diet shopping, and "salad" as part of lunch, already becoming a bit of habit - even from just one-week into Rotation diet.


- thanks again,

cheers

maryann. :)
 
Hi all,

did ok on food today - 1 egg/toast brkfst, cheese/crackers/fruit lunch, chicken/salad/fruit supper.

~ went out golfing this aftn- 3 hrs.

( wonder how many calories golfing burns ? )


Maryann C. :)
 
Hi Maryann,


This is all really interesting and seems like you're off too a fantastic start :) I just started trying something sort of similar and so will be reading along :)


As for golfing... not entirely sure, but this calculator might be helpful: http://lamb.cc/calories-burned-calculator/


Naif
 
Hi all,

well - Monday - not great - I am up 5lbs. over the weekend ( water ? ) ....maybe the weekend-off plan might not be too wise/? ( I did have a twizzler-licorize, a couple ice-cream bars, ..processed stuff- probably not the best choices.


Am back on my weekday Rotation menu today - calories today 981 ( at 250lbs. - the 600cal's just leave me too light-headed and weak).

..will see what scale says tomorrow.


~ I did find a calculation for calories burned on my 3hrs golf on Sunday ( we walked it and pulled our clubs in carts) - for my weight - I burned 1800 cals - pretty good - I'll definately keep golf as a must-do activity :)


Hey Naif - thx for the good wishes - I'll watch your progress too on your Diary posts- good luck to U 2 !


Maryann C. :)
 
Hello again,.


You're welcome - and thanks for popping by the diary :hurray: 5lbs is kinda scary, but I think you're right, it must be mostly water? You would have had to consume so many calories for that to be actual body mass!


Have a great day!


Naif
 
Hi all -

good news this morning - down 3 lbs. ( so 3lbs. of the yucky 5lbs. water(?) gain from weeknd is gone :)


- was reading a bit in Katahn's book last nite on his recommendations when shifting low-cal to higher-cal - he recommends doing it by increasing serving sizes of the "healthy" food , Not by adding processed/sugar/salt laden foods (which I did on wknd)- so...


~ off to healthy breakfst of whole-grain toast/fruit/1 oz. cheese.

(and plan for upcoming wknd- stick to healthy , non-processed stuff - just increase serving sizes).:nopity:


wishing everyone a good day.


Maryann :)
 
Hi all,

Well, held steady this week at 252 lbs.

~ plan to try a few lo-cal Rotation days again next week.

~ for non-rotation days - am trying more moderate calories ( per Fat2Fit Radio web page plan - as mentioned in scbibhouse's diary) -


feeling a bit better now (with the moderate days ) , less anxious, less extreme hunger, did fit in some exercise this week - so feel good about that.


wishing everyone a good week, :driving:cruising along ......


Maryann :)
 
Wow Maryann, I had no idea golf burns so many calories. That's something I should store away for future reference! I played it once and it seemed ok. Sorry, you mentioned that a few posts ago and I just read it. I was just curious abou the rotation you mention so was scrolling back. What do you think about that plan? I'm doing a certain calorie amout every single day but your rotation plan seems interesting.
 
Hi kj67 -

- yes, I was suprised with the calorie burn with golf too ( it doesn't feel too strenuous when you are doing it).... & I like it - so it is a bonus to find something you like that helps burn a lot of calories :biggrin:


-The Rotation Diet ( book/plan - Dr.Martin Katahn ) - it does achieve weight loss , but I find the very low calories hard to stick to for any length of time -I could not do the 21days straight of low-cal/very hungry - so I am following "Rotation plan" only for a few days each week, then rest of week- I increase calories/serving sizes up ( I"ve been going to 2,000 cals - which is closer to my BMR - Maintenance-weight stable calories-for my current weight) *( I also discovered, on my non-rotation days- junk food not a good idea (I got lot of water gain)-so am now trying on non-rotation days- to stick to "healthy" non-processed foods, just larger servings than rotation-days.)**


- I have found, so far, that this is working for me , I have managed to lose a few pounds with the low-cal days, and feel comfortable (not hungry) - by going to my maintenance calories on non-rotation days.


- so far, it's manageable - I can handle a few "hungry" low-cal days each week, knowing that rest of week I will be on non-hungry - normal calories.



- I think the best success is to try approaches until you find what works for you , for some people- same calories every day may work , but for myself, I find the varying works well-I have a couple "tuff" low-cal days ( to lose some weight) each week , & find I can handle those days, knowing that I then have the reward of normal calories for a few days after.- the weight loss is a bit quicker (for me) than continuous moderate calorie restriction , and I like the routine that I don't have to "strict" diet every day- only a few days each week.


~ best wishes for success kj67 ,


Maryann :)
 
Hey MaryAnnC, and welcome to the forum! Thanks for stopping by my diary too!

I wrote a big long post...then I lost it...so when I get my mojo back, I'll rewrite! Steady as she goes, and remember, it's not a race! While we all need to set goals...they must be realistic, or we get demotivated...so keep up the good work and take it off gradually...and it will stay off...kind of the way it probably went on! Sucks, but true!


Keep up the good work, and gradually work in some exercise..it will pay off!


Sarah
 
Hey MaryannC...thought of a couple more things that might help.

If you are interested to track calories and exercise now, there are some of us that use a program called "myfitnesspal.com" There is a huge database of foods for calories and exercises for calories burned. I don't use it exactly the way it's designed...because I don't put in my exercises. I don't do this because this website works on the premise that if you exercise you can eat more...sometimes I exercise alot and I don't want to be fooled into the idea that I can "eat back my exercise"...I did that for a little while and I found that I ate too much to consistently lose weight...it was good though to know how many calories are burned when you do something like golf or gardening or some other weight bearing exercise.


Good choices to you MaryAnnC and I look forward to your continued updates! Stop by my diary any time!!


Sarah
 
Hi all,

good day today - calories 1225 ( including the hunger remedies) , & did my exercise ( dog walk tonite- 1/2hr. )(mosquitoes werent' too bad until last bit homeward).


~ was back on rotation diet today- got major hungry on arrival home after work - :willy_nilly:googled diet/hunger - came up with - water, protein, fibre, ...too low fat - so tried lots water ( still hungry ) , tried bowl of spinach salad (better- but still pretty hungry) , tried few nuts - bit better, had my supper protein(salmon)-bit better , then tried a serving of my all bran-shreddies ( all natural - no salt/no sugar) - that finally did the trick -fullness kicked-in- couldn't finish the shreddies.


~ will try adding some protein/fat with breakfast tomorrow(peanut butter), and some fibre as aftn.snack( a serving of the shreddies) - and see if that helps prevent the late aftn. hunger tomorrow.


hope everyone had a good day,

cheers, Maryann.
 
Hey Maryann! Congratulations on the exercise..sorry about the mosquitos...I can't stand those little buggers...but the good news, they normally don't get me much...they get my husband first!


When I get the hungries..I try to go for something with protein (like lean chicken breast or tuna...or salmon...love Salmon!) or something with fat (english walnuts are my snack of choice...along with a banana or apple or pineapple...yum!). All of those are not "low cal", but sometimes it's better to eat something and get satisfied than to eat substitutes and not.

I've never done the rotation diet, so can't really comment on that...sounds like you are sticking to it, so good job!


Take care,

Sarah
 
Hi folks - busy couple days - have been to local theatre-festival for last 2 evenings - bonus - lots of walking , challenge - fast food - ...


~ I did increased my morning calories ( added some fat(peanut butter) & extra-protein ( 1 serving cheese) to bkfst. - and 1 serving bran-shreddies in aftn. (non-sugar/no salt version) - that seems to have gotten the afternoon major-hungries in control. ( I feel much better) .:biggrin:

( Sarah - thx for the tips of Fruit+nuts / or protein for "hunger" control snack ideas - ....effective & reasonable calories too . ...) :seeya:


~ calories last 2 days- around 1,400 each day ...not bad...that includes some "treats" at the festival - but tried to limit qty & tried to pick bit-healthier choices - had frut smoothie (non-sugar), sweet-potatoe fries ( tasted baked-not very oily& only had 1/2 the order- shared with my nephew.), and green-onion cake today ( yummy ) - but counted the calories - , and No mini-doughnuts ...or other really bad options that were there.(corn dogs, deep-fried choc.bars...eeek.)

( in past years - I tended to really over-indulge at food there - just write-off/not count those days....but now Everyday counts - so did have some treats, but keep them in reasonable limits/bit better choices.)( I want to be healthy & happy - choosing treats that don't hurt my weight loss efforts.)


.. wishing everyone a good week,

Maryann .
 
Hi folks - .... temptation of "fast food"..


- driving to the theatre-festival today I caught a bit n the radio with David Kessler - discussing fast-food addiction ( his name is familiar - I realized I have read parts of his book on Overeating/Fast food )- facing so much fast-food these last 2 days at the Theatre festival , it caught my attention - ...


- he has found that some people/(but not all folks)- are really "triggered " by fast-foods - He describes how, for some of us , parts of our brains are activated by fast food , we get a temporary pleasure/relief of stress, our brains remember this, and next time we feel stress, or see or think of these fast foods , we are driven to seek them out to get the good-feel/stress relief again....


- he said it is just like "addiction" behavior - we know the calorie-load in these foods is not good for us, but we "crave" the feeling they give us...

- but as we "need" food to live - there is no way to go "cold-turkey"- we always need some food, but he said awareness of our "weakness"/drive for this fast-food helps, and setting "rules" for ourselves around these foods also helps

- to have "bit" or a "taste"only ...and not too often ..... to limit how much we have, but do allow ourselves a "little bit".... is one way to approach fast-food with some control , if you are one of the vulnerable folks( like I am.) ( this approach did seem to work for me these past couple days - I think if I had tried to have no "treats" at all, I would have really felt miserable and deprived, and likely would have caved-in and had lots of something really sugar/fat laden...planning on having just"some" seemed to work.).


- recognizing and understanding that these foods will always be a temptation for me, and that this is "normal" for folks like myself, and having a "little bit" of this type of food worked as a good compromise for me today ....will try & remember this approach in the future. :p


Maryann c.
 
Sounds like you have a good start Maryann
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Your rotation diet sounds interesting... I think it is good to do some up and down with your calories. I found for me that my metabolism seemed to stick when I would be at a certain calories for awhile... then if the calories were too low to go lower I would have to go back up in calories, and my metabolism being used to lower I would instantly gain back a couple lbs before my metabolism readjusted, then I could lose again, and go down in calories again.. Don't know if that made a lot of sense, but for me going back and forth kept me losing rather than getting stuck. I just couldn't go up too high in calories or I would undo loss... Anyway sounds like you are making some good progress. Keep it up! And can't wait to read about you flying!!!!
 
AHey Maryannc,
I think that guy David K. Is onto something...I seem to always over eat fast food, and 2 hours later I'm hungry again...I've pretty much gone off of that stuff, and now, I've found that I really like the simple foods better (and I can eat more of them!)
Congratulations by the way on our 4 pound loss!! Excellent!:hurray::hurray: you are doing great!

Sarah
 
Hi folks,

-well - with all my "going out" this week - no weight loss, but no gain - so that's OK -- held steady.


- will need to try increasing my exercise a bit next week- see if that helps, & I am starting to get a bit more used to the lower-cal days - finding high-fibre snacks help....


- Scbibhouse - thanks for the encouragement & support - & so true about those darn processed foods- an apple with some cinnamon tastes almost as good as a doughnut - and comes with far less guilt !, and lots more vitamins & fibre....and doesn't leave ya wanting to have 3 more ...hee hee :rolleyes:


- Rainyforest138- thanks also for the support & good to know that varying calories has worked for you- I do find it easier knowing I get a break on the low-cal here & there.


- my calories today 925 so far ( supper yet to go)

- plan to walk Koko tonite for my 1/2hr exercise today.


Wishing everyone a good week, :jump:


Maryann C.
 
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