Loose Skin

Loose skin?

:confused: Did you have loose skin and more wrinkles when you lost weight?
I am obviously vain and like the fact that I don't look my age...yet!:p
 
Yep - i have some.... ok lots :)

though it takes up to a year before it completly shrinks im told.
I plan on surgery if mine doesnt.
 
I'm not totally read up on it so forgive me if I'm wrong, but your skin should tighten up after moderate weight loss (around 50lbs or less) within 6 months to a year.
 
I suppose the combination of sport and cutting down your calories intake should be enough to allow you to lose weight and keep your skin tight enough. I guess it depends also how much weight you have to lose....
 
When I was in my thirties I lost 70lb and was surprised to find my skin shrank right along with the fat cells. This time around I am hoping it is still as elastic but my plan is if I end up with loose skin or wrinkles I will build up some muscles to stretch it back out :)
 
I lost 57 pounds (ok, I wasn't that big - I was 196 pounds at 5ft 8") without any skin problems - still a little saggy on the stomach - but I think thats body fat more than skin. However, if I had been much bigger, then maybe?
 
i suppose I would need to combine a bit of sport as well...the only thing I really like is yoga so hopefully it will be enough.
thanks for your advice
 
Differentiating fat and loose skin

Trying to workout whether my stomach is a mixture of both, or simply a bit of fat I still need to drop. Any way to make sure ?

Cheers ;)
 
Not an expert here, but having just noticed it on myself :( I can tell you that loose skin is just that. Wrinkly. You can pinch it between your fingers, and all you feel is skin. Sorry that isn't very informative.
 
Ever since I started working out and dieting, I've been wondering about loose skin. I am afraid of having gross flabs of skin hanging around all over, I'd rather be overweight like I am now if it weren't so unhealthy. I try hard to not care about the looks, but in this area its just hard for me. Its just raining on my parade to think of once I lose all the weight, I will have loose skin hanging around everywhere.

My question is, is loose skin unavoidable? Is it reparable (sans surgery, I couldn't afford it and even if I could, theres no way I'd do it) or is it something you can do during your diet that avoids it?

If there is a certain type of exercise that would change the body composition to avoid loose skin, what is it? What would I need to be doing?
 
Don't lose to quickly, 1-2lbs is fine, no more.
Get some omega3 caps, I take 6x1000mg daily and my stretch marks are starting to dissapear by the looks of it :) Make sure you don't get ones with vitamins in them!
Eat right while losing, give your body everything it needs to function properly.

Should minimize the danger of loose skin.
 
loose skin - i have nightmares about it. i have lost nearly 60 lbs and my tummy is starting to sag "jelly belly" and i still have another 3 +stone to go:eek: i feel like you and would almost rather be o/weight if it wasnt so unhealthy and if i didnt feel tonnes better already. i mentioned it to the nurse at the surgery and she said "we`ll worry about that when you`ve lost the weight". i`ll have to play on it psychologically and see what happens.slim
 
I've been looking around for answers to this question since I posted it, and I've found some information. The information I found goes something like this:

Loose skin is flabby skin hanging off of areas after weight loss has occured. However, there is still fat behind this skin. The actual thickness of skin is closer to if you pinched the skin on the back of your hand together, and most loose skin flabs are much thicker than this because of fat. So, the solution to this problem is to decrease your body fat %. Increase in lean mass and decrease in fat mass will cause the fat thats causing the loose skin to go away, and the lean mass will provide structure as well.

Only time will tell if that is the truth (or maybe someone with personal experience?). Something I know a lot of people get caught up in is weight, when body fat versus lean muscle is much more important. I'd much rather weigh more but it be mostly lean mass than weigh less and it be mostly fat mass. Its possible that most of these loose skin problems come from people who diet to severely and/or lose too much weight from burning muscle.
 
Ever since I started working out and dieting, I've been wondering about loose skin. I am afraid of having gross flabs of skin hanging around all over, I'd rather be overweight like I am now if it weren't so unhealthy. I try hard to not care about the looks, but in this area its just hard for me. Its just raining on my parade to think of once I lose all the weight, I will have loose skin hanging around everywhere.

My question is, is loose skin unavoidable? Is it reparable (sans surgery, I couldn't afford it and even if I could, theres no way I'd do it) or is it something you can do during your diet that avoids it?

If there is a certain type of exercise that would change the body composition to avoid loose skin, what is it? What would I need to be doing?

For what it's worth, below is a " loose skin " after weight loss post I posted form another forum I belong to...it may answer some of your questions.....


There are 12 things you should know about loose skin after very large weight losses:

1. Skin is incredibly elastic. Just look at what women go through during pregnancy. Skin has the ability to expand and contract to a remarkable degree
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2. Elasticity of skin tends to decrease with age. Wrinkling and loss of elasticity is partly the consequence of aging (genetic factors) and also a result of environmental factors such as oxidative stress, excessive sun exposure, and nutritional deficiency. The environmental parts you can fix, the genetics and age part, you cannot. Advice: Get moving and change the things you have control over... Be realistic and don't worry about those things you don't have control over.

3. How much your skin will return to its former tautness depends partly on age. The older you get, the more an extremely large weight loss can leave loose skin that will not return to normal.

4. How long you have extra weight and stretched skin has a lot to do with how much the skin will become taut after the weight loss: For example, compare a 9 month pregnancy with 9 years carrying 100 excess pounds.

5. How much excess weight was carried has a lot to do with how much the skin will resume a tight appearance. Your skin can only be stretched so much and be expected to "snap back" one hundred percent.

6. How fast the weight was gained also has a lot to do with how much the skin will resume a tight appearance. Your skin can only be stretched so quickly and be expected to "snap back."

7. How fast weight is lost also has a lot to do with how much the skin will tighten up. Rapid weight loss doesn't allow the skin time to slowly resume to normal. (yet another reason to lose fat slowly; 1-2 pounds per week, 3 pounds at the most if you have a lot of weight to lose, and even then, only if you are measuring body fat and you’re certain it's fat you’re losing, not lean tissue).

8. There are exceptions to all of the above; i.e, people who gained and then lost incredible amounts of weight quickly at age 50 or 60, and their skin returned 100% to normal.

9. There are many creams advertised as having the ability to restore the tightness of your skin. None work – at least not permanently and measurably – and especially if you have a lot of loose skin. Don't waste your money.

10. If you’re considering surgical skin removal, consult a physician for advice because this is not a minor operation, but keep in mind that your plastic surgeon may be making his BMW payments with your abdominoplasty money. (It’s possible that surgery may be recommended in situations where it's not 100% necessary). Surgery should be left as the ABSOLUTE FINAL option in extreme cases.

11. Give your skin time. Your skin will get tighter as your body fat gets lower. I've seen and heard of many cases where the skin gradually tightened up, at least partially, after a one or two year period where the weight loss was maintained and exercise continued.

12. Know your body fat percentage before even thinking about surgery. Loose skin is one thing, but still having body fat is another. Be honest with yourself and do that by taking your body fat measurement. This can be done with skinfold calipers or a variety of other devices (calipers might not be the best method if you have large folds of loose skin. Look into impedance analysis, underwater weighing, DEXA or Bod Pod).


...hope it helps.
 
Thanks once again for the information Wrangell. I understand most of that and agree with your points on surgery as well. The biggest problem I've had is seperating truth and myth. Some doctors and professionals swear there is nothing you can do, while others swear there is. I personally believe both sides have money to gain from making those claims (selling their books or selling their surgery, etc).

As a response to Srm (even though he wasn't asking anything...), the main qualm I have with surgery, and its just the main one - I have many, is that once they surgically remove all that skin, your skin elasticity will be severely reduced. It would be extremely dangerous for you to gain a lot of weight again, and it might even be dangerous if you gain a lot of muscle weight. This type of thing is why I shy away from permanent body alterations. For example, people who have the gastric bypass surgery. Once you've fully lost the weight you want, there might come a time when you want to tone your body or gain weight for any number of reasons and it will definitely interfere.

I really want to believe that this isn't an unavoidable thing. People that do have this condition, have you tried doing things to increase your lean body mass? Does it work to reduce the loose skin?
 
Hi,
This is something I'm interested in as well and I learned alittle by reading the post. I've lost about 80 pounds so far and still have over 100 to lose, and I already have flab under my arms and my belly is "hanging". Is there any excercises I can do now to tighten things up? Because all of this "loose skin" is only going to get worst as I lose more weight, and how much dose the surgury cost to get the skin removed? Thanks
 
Wannabeskinny45, according to the research I've done, loose skin happens when you lose lean mass as well as fat mass when you lose weight. If you are still trying to lose weight, you need to make sure you are doing aerobic exercises and not anaerobic ones. I don't mean just "aerobics" either, just exercises that use energy aerobically (for example: walking, cycling, aerobics). The reason for this is that anaerobic exercise fuels the exercise directly from the muscle. During anaerobic exercise you will feel a burning sensation in the muscle, thats the muscle itself being used for energy. If you get this feeling a lot, it means you are burning all your muscle off! This will definitely cause loose skin.

The solutions I've found involve increasing lean mass in your body. The main problem with this is, you can't lose fat mass and increase lean mass at the same time. To increase lean mass, you have to take in more calories than you use per day, along with proper exercise and nutrition to stimulate lean mass growth. To decrease fat mass, you have to take in less calories than you use per day, along with proper exercise and nutrition as well. If you don't diet and exercise properly trying to do either of these things, its easy to decrease lean mass or increase fat mass when you aren't intending to.

So, wether you are trying to lose fat or increase your lean mass, you should do aerobic exercises. Also, if you can, monitor your body fat %. For men a healthy % is around 15% and it goes up or down a few % based on a few factors. I am not sure for women.
 
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Wannabeskinny45, according to the research I've done, loose skin happens when you lose lean mass as well as fat mass when you lose weight.

Could be, but for people who have dropped a ton of weight, I'd guess most of it ( that matters in terms of loose skin ) is due to the fat that is resting under your skin and on top of your muscles...it's what's called " subcutaneous fat " So, you might be at 34% body fat and have a very ambitious long germ goal to get to 15% body fat. With some close monitoring patience, sound training and diet the bulk of your weight loss to get to 15% can come primarily from fat with little or no loss from muscle mass.


If you are still trying to lose weight, you need to make sure you are doing aerobic exercises and not anaerobic ones. I don't mean just "aerobics" either, just exercises that use energy aerobically (for example: walking, cycling, aerobics). The reason for this is that anaerobic exercise fuels the exercise directly from the muscle. During anaerobic exercise you will feel a burning sensation in the muscle, thats the muscle itself being used for energy

If you get this feeling a lot, it means you are burning all your muscle off! This will definitely cause loose skin.

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Well, usually a " burning sensation " during cardio is simply due to a build-up of lactic acid...so, it's not a sign you're losing muscle mass.

I won't get into all the bio-chemistry behind it, but the " lactic acid burn " you feel in a given muscle just means you are likely exercising so hard you are out of breath. So it means you are exercising VERY anaerobically ( just as you said ) - burning very little ( if any ) fat. In other words, you aren't getting the oxygen you need to burn your muscle glucose properly, and as a result, lactic acid builds up in your muscles. It " burns " because lactic acid lowers the pH level of your muscles, but it since blood in your muscles flush it out, it doesn't last long.

So, the sensation of ' burning ' is just a sign sugars aren't being burned completely...it doesn't mean you're actually using your muscle tissue for energy...i.e " you are burning all your muscle off! ".

This is a very simple example, but one of the more typical ways you CAN lose muscle mass when doing a frequent exercise regimen, is when your body has inadequate glucose ( sugars ) to exercise / function - i.e you don't have enough glucose cause you have cut too many calories or you have burned too many off during repeated bouts of exercise , or both. When that happens, your body resorts to converting amino acids ( i.e protein normally needed to sustain your muscle tissue ) into fuel for your muscles / organs to use. So, over time, your muscle tissue suffers ( i.e loses mass ) as it doesn't have the right amount of nutrients ( amino acids ) it needs to sustain itself properly.

The solutions I've found involve increasing lean mass in your body. The main problem with this is, you can't lose fat mass and increase lean mass at the same time. To increase lean mass, you have to take in more calories than you use per day, along with proper exercise and nutrition to stimulate lean mass growth. To decrease fat mass, you have to take in less calories than you use per day, along with proper exercise and nutrition as well. If you don't diet and exercise properly trying to do either of these things, its easy to decrease lean mass or increase fat mass when you aren't intending to.

Good summary !:)

So, wether you are trying to lose fat or increase your lean mass, you should do aerobic exercises. Also, if you can, monitor your body fat %. For men a healthy % is around 15% and it goes up or down a few % based on a few factors. I am not sure for women.

If you keep your energy stores topped up - i.e in other words you are eating the correct amount of carbs / calories etc. etc. - and you do some form of resistance training as well , you can do aerobic AND anaerobic exercise without putting your muscle mass in a significant jeopardy.
 
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