Looking for honesty on how to correct this...

Thanks Guys again..Many of you seem to know what you are talking about. This past month i kind of ran myself into a rut...I read that article (posted on the first page) on how it was my last area of fat so i figured i would be able to burn it off in a month like i have done with the rest of my weight...Doing so i proceeded to run like a mad man and do abdominal work monday through friday while eating once and the rest all liquid based...It didnt do much for me...I tightened up a little but it was kind of discouraging condsidering all the effort i put it...

Parents and my brother are telling me to eat normally..They think with all the cardio im doing, i'd be burning off the fat i consume and have left...Then after the cardio, any weight/muscle based training i do would turn fat into muscle...Its tough...I use dunkin donuts iced coffees as a meal replacement before workouts because i know the calories are the same as a real meal...But i'll take your guys advice (nice posts from everyone...especially the last two)...


I appreciate it...
Joe
 
Wtg!

Congratulations! You did something a lot of people really, really have trouble doing! I think you look great, and I would encourage you to see the positive of your successes, rather than your perceived imperfections. I think people look more attractive when they're not stick-thin!

The only thing I'd recommend is adding protein to your diet. That's done marvels for me in toning my muscles. After five babies, the only thing that helped me lose weight is going low-carb, adding protein, and walking three nights a week for at least 30 minutes at a time. On the days that I don't walk, I *try* to do some toning exercises but (with five kids) do not always achieve that.

Anyhow, pat yourself on the back for your hard work!! I'm totally impressed.
 
I use dunkin donuts iced coffees as a meal replacement before workouts because i know the calories are the same as a real meal.

Personally, I would rather have food. There is nothing nutritional in those coffees; it would be better to get those calories from healthy proteins, etc.

I echo what everyone else has said; the most important being, your perception of yourself is NOT how everyone else sees you.
 
Quick Question...theres a guy at my work telling me the opposite...Hes convinced that it is loose skin because when i am sitting in a chair...what is left hangs over like a pouch almost...Makes me look extremly out of shape in my opinion...hes convinced that time will heal but i'd say its fat if anything...Something so flabby and loose must be fat correct..

Basically what i am asking is a general consenus here...Do you guys believe in loose skin? I'd like to hear what you think Danielle..When i run, my abdominal area is extremely loose...When i bend over in a chair there is a pouch that sags there...The skin is loose..but is it loose because of it extreme weight loss or is the term loose skin an "excuse" for obese people who crashed dieted and didnt "work" the fat out of them.....

Sorry if im being redundant
 
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I'm no pro...but, I think you look amazing and did an awesome job.

I think if anything it's a small bit of fat, or just loose skin.

One thing I suggest, with any stretch marks or loose skin/whatever- Cocoa Butter.

It's what pregnant women use for stretch marks, it improve elasticity.

So maybe some'a that, and keeping up with your workouts and what not- you'll see it all firm in?

I know your a man-- but I've seen women prevent and rid of stretch marks during/after pregnancy and bing their tummy's back to normal or better...and you would have never known they have a baby in there!
 
Hey Joe-

I know exactly what you are talking about, and the reason is because I had the same problem. I used to be overweight and I had asthma, and then I had an eating problem and went down to nearly 99 pounds at 5'7". It was gross and even then, I was not tightened in the abdominal area nor did I have anough stamina to last running, I could only do a mile in 8 minutes and could not continue running afterwards. That was a few years back. I have yoyo'ed up and down since then, and about a year ago to the date actually (it was april 28 of last year, my mom's birthday), i decided that enough was enough. I felt like crap, had no energy, could hardly focus...even my hormones and emotions were going haywire. I do totally related everything back to my diet and physical condition. I was not overweight at the time- I was 5'7", 138 pounds, but i certainly didn't feel like I was in shape. I bought fitness magazines, I got fitTV through directv (which is the best channel ever, by the way) and I began a regular exercise program. I did an hour of aerobics 3 times a week and Abs of Steel on the days I didn't do cardio (but just the ab exercises. not the aerobic segment). I started to look and feel better, and my endurance and stamina built up. Once I could do that with no problem, I would add weights to my ankles while I did the aerobics. Around September I started doing TaeBo (the hour advanced workouts, "Get Ripped"). So at that point I was doing 2 hours of taebo every other day, and on the off days I switched to weight training (45 minutes). I would do legs & glutes, or chest & back, or core - Check out Cathe Friedrich workouts. With all this work I was doing, I still had loose "skin," fat..whatever....a combination of the two, on my belly. I have always had it since I was seriously overweight (5'4, 150). Anyways...I noticed my body changing, especially my legs, hip flexors, arms, calves, thighs....my thighs (especially inner thighs) took soooo long to define, as I thought there was extra skin there. But I know now that in order to obtain completely tight skin, it is a matter of diet. Whenever you choose to eat a meal (and I do not endorse liquid diets, as they do nothing for your metabolism and had a tendency to give you cramps), think to yourself : "If I lived in a natural environment, would this food be available to me?" That means no dunkin' donuts, mcdonalds, processed sugars...nothing containing high fructose corn syrup, or hydrogenated vegetable oils...even if whatever you are consuming may be low fat, the unnatural sweetening and processed ingredients will hurt you in the long run, providing no fuel for the muscles or metabolism.

Anyways... My thighs and abs were the absolute last thing to go on my body. I found that Cathe Friedrich's Legs & Glutes is the best workout for my lower half, as well as taebo, and for my abs I trust taebo & Cathe's Core Max Workout. I trust her because she has been a fitness instructor for about 20 years now, and is incredible shape. She does not endorse any surgeries or fad diets, and most importantly- look at her pictures of her during pregnancy. Then, compare it to her pics 6 months after she had the baby. No stretch marks. No extra skin. A healthy person taking in nutritious foods will be able to spring their body back to life. I am walking proof, and so is she. I will try to get pics up of my abdominal area after class today.

For quickest results, try the small 6 meals a day and check out Cathe's "Boot Camp." Incorporating weights into the workouts will burn twice as much *FAT* as opposed to muscle or water weight.
 
see how it tightened up

in the second image, I weigh 150..and the first, 138.....I have more muscle mass in number 2 so I weigh more but wear a smaller size.
 
Don't worry about what your friend at work says. Not everybody has experience w/losing weight & getting back into shape!!! If you've not been through a pretty excruciating process, it's really hard to offer meaningful advice. There's a lot of experience and expertise on the board. I'm gonna hit my favorite point one more time: protein, protein, protein. :)
XXX
Mya
 
Wow...thats amazing Danielle....I really appreciate you and the rest of the crew taking the time to answer my questions....You look great by the way and i hope your advice (a long with everyone elses) is going to work for me...Im pretty dedicated when im certain something will work and i think this may be the way out....When i was crash dieting several months ago, i was dazed out...always tired...worried about consuming anything that was solid, and i was loose everywhere...over the past month or so, i've began to eat actual meals and have tried not to skip anything...hopefully its working..


March 19th....











tips..ideas...im still havent cut that one coffee a day yet...but ive done that on purpose to see if it hinders things...i may just have to cold "turkey" those iced coffees for the summer....

first month has been Mnday-Friday...3 - 3.5 7 minute miles with a ton of ab work...workouts generally last close to or a little over an hour

a bowl of mini wheats in the morning (8)
medium ice coffee regular at like (11)
Fruit or Bannana or Grapes at like (130)
Some form of protein like a peice or two of meat (dinner sized portion) pre workout
after workout i have an orange and plenty of water...(this is around like 3:30)

for the rest of the day i'll have sporadic sizes and portions of grapes, apples, appelsauce

and at like 9 i'll have a bowl of farina oatmeal...

not to sure if im eating too much...ive never been good at how much to consume..







thanks again guys and girls
 
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Hey!

Hey Joe-

You can definitely see more tone in yer abs, awesome! Good food choices too. Mini wheats give me lots of energy. If you like that, check out Kashi GoLean Crunch...it is totally natural & instead of sugar it is sweetened with honey and cinnamon. I usually eat two small bowls in the morning with some skim milk. It is packed with protein and lots of fiber too, not to mention plenty of vitamins. It makes me feel great in the morning. Breakfast, contrary to popular belief, should be the biggest meal of the day to jumpstart metabolism.

Maybe also try to add some eggs into your diet. Either hardboiled (toss the yoke, thats all fat and cholesterol) or make an omelet or scrambled eggs with one egg yolk and 3 egg whites. You get all the protein (24 grams) and only 1/4 the fat. Eggs actually set the basis for protein count in other foods because it's the highest quality protein based on size (size versus protein content). In order to build lean muscle, try to eat the equivalent of your body weight in protein (in grams of course). I weigh 150 so I try to eat around 150 grams a day. It isn't always possible because I just don't have the time but I always try to squeeze lean protein in. A can of tuna has about 32 grams of protein. Kashi's cereal has 10 grams or so per serving. Chicken or fish has about 30 grams per serving. I don't know if you are a seafood buff but fish is absolutely the best thing you can eat. It has lots of Omega-3 fatty acids that hook you up!

Before I forget, just remember that your body is still trying to figure out how to operate with it's new form. The muscles in your abdomen interact with your hip flexor muscles, so the more muscular they all become, the easier it is for them to work together, and subsequently your core will be utilized more. The more you use yer core, they more defined you will notice it becoming (and you'll feel it especially when you run). Your posture has probably even changed since you've been exercising, right? Standing different?


Keep it up!

Danielle
 
Wow your abs look even better!

How much times elapsed between the two pic sets?

(Im too lazy to look and figure it out myself, lol)
 
yeah i know what your saying danielle. When i run and stand i feel like there is more of an arch..Its almost as if my chest is poking out, but im sure that its just me not being use to standing or sitting upright. Its funny you mention the kashi food because i just went out this past week and did some food shopping...i bought 3 didnt types...some high in protein and another that kind of tastes like plain puffs.....man being 19 and having to do my own food shopping in a house that eats like "crap" can get pretty pricey...

I throw in eggs here and there...Ive never actually liked yoke so its pretty easy for me to crack them open and cook or eat just the egg white...Being a portugee, its only natural that im a hardcore seafood buff..I do a ton of fishing and most of the fish i eat this summer will be natural and i'll have to gut and cook it myself (only difference being i'll have to watch what i use to cook and prepare the fish with)

thanks for the tip about protein count...it should definetly keep me on my toes about how much to consume..sometimes i find myself eating to little and other times too much to make up for it....I didnt realize it worked that way..cool...

Well im out of here...too god speed...that is a month and three days in between...still got lots of work to do...

appreciate it and i'll definetly keep anyone who is interested...updated..

joey
 
I think that's an awesome difference in a month...

Keep working at it, you're doing great.

I hope I can get some results like that!
 
your pics aren't loading for me-did you take them off? i know what you mean about those terrible beach fears! sounds like you've already done the impossible-take some confidence from that man! i can't see your pics but i bet you look great. going under the knife is a serious topic-maybe you could ask a few plastic surgeons just to see what they say about lose skin tightening up. don't go with the intention to have surgery-just do some research....and well done thus far!!!!!!!!!! you must be proud.
 
Just a quick question...

1 Bowl of Shredded Wheats (no sugar...real wheat cereal) with skim milk (830 am)

now from 830 till 3 what should i be consuming...should my pre workout meal be my big meal for the day? (meaning should i be eating a main course meal before i workout or after)..where should my main course of protein be consumed? should there even be a main course, or should it be spread throughout the day...argh


after i workout from 5-12...i'll usually have a coffee, fruit, and a bowl of oatmeal/cereal or farina to close out the night...Hopefully im doing this the right way...Im putting in alot of effort, but im afraid to consume to much and put on fat...or not eat enough and loose weight...

Basically i eat Cereal in the morning...Fruit and meat before workout and then cereal and coffee after workout into the night


any ideas on what i should be eating and at what intervals...You guys are my closest thing to affording a nutrionalist...

thanks
 
thanks guys...but its becoming a serious issue...i cant seem to get my mind off of it...im busting myself trying to crunch and "muscle" my way out of it, but im not to sure if its going to work...from a side few (sitting) my problem is a little more serious (not as bad as others im sure) but certainley enough to keep me thinking about correcting it the surgical way..

ugh why did i have to get fat...haha..

thanks again.


Hey Joe, don't worry. (Can't get your pics on my computer but I'm sure you look great, as others have said). Crunches/sit-ups really do work in changing stomach shape. As an example, I used to do 400 crunches a night over 5 years ago and even after weight gain I still have a visible 'strip' on my abs. What works REALLY well is to do sit-ups on an incline bench; you use all groups of ab muscles at once: upper, lower and side abs. You can really feel it working out your whole stomach, right into the muscle that sits next to your gut. It's high intensity so you don't need to do many to get a good workout and if you graduate to a bar (hang upside down and use your abs to pull yourself upright), you can beef up in no time (if that's what you want).

All the best and don't let this small problem take away from the thrill of having lost all that weight! Many never get to where you are now so enjoy every minute of it!:)
 
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