be_gone_soon
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Never boring! just check out that pic you got there!!
Journey, Not A Destination
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dariqueen
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Hello! Just caught up on the world according to Steve (I'd call it your diary, but there's not a lot about you in here! LOL!). You talk a lot of sense. I guess that's why I keep losing consistently, even though I usually eat about 200-400 calories over what I've been told to.
I've got a lot to think about now, in a good way. I'll have to read up on your other posts to get all the info sorted. Thanks for offering your help to everyone!
I've got a lot to think about now, in a good way. I'll have to read up on your other posts to get all the info sorted. Thanks for offering your help to everyone!
jennbabe06
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I am glad you guys keep my journal warm with humor. Otherwise, it would be full of facts... dry and boring.
glad to be of service...ya facts are BORING! gotta feed some dirt every now and again. Gotta give it some liquid so it's not so dry...that's we us girls are here...gotta keep it interesting!
Hello! Just caught up on the world according to Steve (I'd call it your diary, but there's not a lot about you in here! LOL!). You talk a lot of sense. I guess that's why I keep losing consistently, even though I usually eat about 200-400 calories over what I've been told to.
I've got a lot to think about now, in a good way. I'll have to read up on your other posts to get all the info sorted. Thanks for offering your help to everyone!
Hey, thanks for taking the time to see what I am about.
I wouldn't bother finding all my other posts, there will be plenty more. Besides, I think I did about 150 in the past 2 days.
I look forward to hearing more from you.
glad to be of service...ya facts are BORING! gotta feed some dirt every now and again. Gotta give it some liquid so it's not so dry...that's we us girls are here...gotta keep it interesting!
You saying I am dry!?
Just teasing.
Narcollins2
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HI, and thanks for the kind words. Can't ever hear enough of them!
First let me say this to you. Increasing lean body mass (muscle) is more a function of the amount of food you are eating than any set way of working out. Does that make sense to you.
The old way you were training above I actually don't have a problem with, depending on how you had it laid in totality each day. You say you were getting bulky from it though. The only way that is possible is if you were in a caloric surplus. And when you are in a caloric surplus with the right foods, and lifting weights any way you want, something is going to happen in terms of growth. There are more optimal ways than others, but you get my point I hope.
You also stated that you lost leanness, which indicates to me that you were CERTAINLY eating in a caloric surplus.
So I ask you this. What exactly are your goals? Your training was not wrong to begin with. If anything, I would say it is wrong now, which I will get into in a moment.
Second, what made you resort to high rep training? What was your reasoning. I would imagine that you were following some unfounded belief that high rep training tones and low rep (heavy) training bulks. No matter what way you slice it, resistance training either builds muscle or it doesn't. Toning is purely a function of fat loss and has nothing to do with the weights that you lift. Ok?
Third, flexibility is part of a training protocol that should exist aside from your aerobic training and resistance training. I do dynamic flexibility work before each of my workouts and I do static flexibility work every single day. Increase LBM has very little to do with becoming inflexible. Ok?
I am sure you are going to have more questions, and that is fine. I am going to stop here and see if all that sinks in, and wait to see what you have to say.
Hey Steve, thanks a lot for responding to my post.
First off, my main goal is to be and look healthy. Basically, I just want to lose fat and develop high endurance.
Secondly, the routine that I did before was actually the only way that I weight trained. It was great for causing my muscles to grow incredibly fast in a short period of time and the workouts lasted only 40-45 minutes. I really never wanted to do long, plain, repetitive sets like I'm doing now, but I didn't like the way my muscles were feeling (cramped up).
Therefore, I decided to try the other way. I was told by my dad, who used to be a body builder, and other people to do high reps and low weight. So far, I did notice a difference in how my muscles look in general and the resistance stretches my muscles out a lot more doing this. But, I do notice that I do not burn as much fat as I used to when I did the other workout. But maybe my eating habits could have played a role in the "bulkiness" because I usually have horrible eating habits. I eat way more than I'm supposed to, but in the past month I've been eating very well overall. Is that what you meant by "caloric surplus"? I also usually do pilates which helps me to stretch and improve my flexibility.
I'm not sure if that makes sense but I just wanted to know what you suggest that works for other women who just want to tone up and lose fat.
Thanks again for being kind enough to let me pick your brain!
jennbabe06
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You look familiar
It's nice to see you sharing your huge wealth of knowledge with so many people, Steve =] Keep it up bro
Hello my friend.
I don't get it. I have, in my options, checked off to keep all posts 2 days old in sight. However, they always disappear. My journal for instance, I never saw today in the "new posts." Therefore, I did not know I had posts in here until just now after checking it. Strange.
Hmm, update on me today.
Calories consumed = 4200 + 2 beers
Water = 5 liters
Training = still on week off, but did some serious boxing today, much fun
Hey Steve, thanks a lot for responding to my post.
First off, my main goal is to be and look healthy. Basically, I just want to lose fat and develop high endurance.
Secondly, the routine that I did before was actually the only way that I weight trained. It was great for causing my muscles to grow incredibly fast in a short period of time and the workouts lasted only 40-45 minutes. I really never wanted to do long, plain, repetitive sets like I'm doing now, but I didn't like the way my muscles were feeling (cramped up).
Therefore, I decided to try the other way. I was told by my dad, who used to be a body builder, and other people to do high reps and low weight. So far, I did notice a difference in how my muscles look in general and the resistance stretches my muscles out a lot more doing this. But, I do notice that I do not burn as much fat as I used to when I did the other workout. But maybe my eating habits could have played a role in the "bulkiness" because I usually have horrible eating habits. I eat way more than I'm supposed to, but in the past month I've been eating very well overall. Is that what you meant by "caloric surplus"? I also usually do pilates which helps me to stretch and improve my flexibility.
I'm not sure if that makes sense but I just wanted to know what you suggest that works for other women who just want to tone up and lose fat.
Thanks again for being kind enough to let me pick your brain!
I have many questions and statements based off of this post.
1. It seems to me that you need a simple fat loss plan.
2. What do you mean "high endurance?" What kind of endurance?
3. You say your muscles were growing incredibly fast when you were following your old routine. My take home point from my original post was, for this to happen, you had to be in a caloric surplus at the time. If you were to follow that same workout, and be in a caloric deficit, you would not grow. It is simple thermodynamics.
4. I find it very peculiar that you say your muscle were growing incredibly fast. This is highly unlikely for a female. Your diet may have been a little high in calories and your size was increasing, not necessarily your muscles. Thoughts?
5. Your dad was a body builder. Cool. Most bodybuilders I know, know jack about physiology, biology, thermodynamics, etc. Not downing your father, but my take on bodybuilders (surely not all) probably holds true for him. Why else would he tell you to do high reps? What is his reasoning, I would love for you to ask him.
6. What in the world to you mean by "the resistance stretches out my muscles a lot more" ?
7. Burning fat is a function of energy balance. NOT what you do in the gym, especially with weights.
8. You said "I usually have horrible eating habits. I eat way more than I'm supposed to, but in the past month I've been eating very well overall. Is that what you meant by "caloric surplus"" This is the root of all your problems when it comes to the goals you are chasing right now and their lack of accomplishment. I promise.
We can get into more recommendation type discussion in a bit. However, I still think you are missing a lot of my points. Hopefully this post will get you thinking in the correct direction, or at least get you asking the right questions. I seem hard, but I am really a softy. I just like teaching hard lessons!
M2M
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jennbabe06
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M2M
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Seven pages in 3 days. That is pretty good, huh.
Some would call that a blabber mouth!
NOT that I've ever been accused of that - oh noooo....!