Joining military soon - will die without help!

I'm 17 years old, 5'5 - 5'6 and 140lbs. I'm looking to join either the Army or Marines within the next 6 months, but I know I will physically break in the condition that I'm currenty in.


So I've come to seek advice. How should I condition my self? (Please be detailed, I'm very ignorant when it comes to this subject)
 
hey there you should come fight along my side in the marines. right after i graduate highschool im leaving to basic training. but this is what you do. talk to a recruiter. find one online if you dont know any. and they'll tell you excatly what you need to do :)
 
I'm a Captain in the Army, combat engineer (21B - sapper). The best thing you can do to get yourself ready for military initial entry training is to begin cutting out soda, tobacco, and candy. You won't get much (if any) of this type of thing during OSUT (one station unit training - Basic and AIT) and you might as well get your body used to not having it.

Additionally, you want to begin to improve muscular strength as well as cardiovascular endurance. Depending on where you are starting from, you should walk for at least 45 minutes to an hour every other day. These same days focus on doing pushups until muscle fairlure (that point where you can't lift your body off of the ground). Finally, on this same day work on abdominal exercises. I would start with three to four sets of about 20 repetitions of crunches, then do the same for flutter kicks, then do the same for traditional situps. Strengthen you abs and you will be in business.

On the other days, you will want to begin running for 30 minutes at a time. If you can't keep a steady pace for a sustained 30 minutes, you need to slow your pace. However, do not run, then walk, then run, then walk. You need to condition your muscles to continue at the SAME pace for at least 30 minutes. After the run, do some weight training. Hit all parts of the body with light weights. You are not trying to build mass, you want to increase endurance. Lots of reps with low weights.

After you have suffered through your workouts for about 3 weeks, give yourself a diagnostic pt test. Regardless of whether or not you go into the Army or Marines, train for both. Do a modified PT test that includes all exercises from both branches. Pushups, situps, pullups, and a 3 mile run. See how many of the pushups, situps, and pullups you can do in 2 minutes. Don't cheat yourself. Have somebody tell you if your waist is sagging during the pushups or if you aren't fully bringing your chin over the bar on the pullups. On the 3 mile run, you need to be shooting for about 24 minutes. Don't worry, you will run faster over time, but that should be your starting point.

As a guide, you want to shoot for:

Pushups - 60 in 2 minutes (this is going to improve during Basic)
Situps - 60 in 2 minutes (again it will improve)
Pullups - 5 (If you go into the Marine Corps, this will certainly improve)
Run - 3 miles in 24 minutes (8 minutes per mile)

You might not achieve these standards after 3 weeks, and that is fine. Keep doing your workout, increase the time duration of your walks, and eventually put some weight on your back. Increase the time duration of your runs, from 30 minutes to 45 minutes. Keep doing the pushups and ab workouts. Keep hitting the gym. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS eat healthy and drink water.

You will do fine at Basic Training.
 
fuelsofar said:
hey there you should come fight along my side in the marines. right after i graduate highschool im leaving to basic training. but this is what you do. talk to a recruiter. find one online if you dont know any. and they'll tell you excatly what you need to do :)
My brother is gonna go to marine.

Yep maybe I Join air force or something~
 
the Army's basic training is a complete joke compared to that of the Marines.



that is an amazing guide to getting ready for boot camp
 
Andy, your 15, you do not know the difference betweent he army and marines.

I would give the edge to the marines for Basic, but the Army runs the show no matter what.

Just do a ton of sit up, push ups, and pull ups, hope your a good swimmer.

Being leaner is better, being Bulky is bad.

they want you fast and in shape, not a human tank.

You will do fine, listen to your Drill SG and stay focused at the task at hand....Remember they are trying to "break" you mentally, that is their job.

While I was in basic we did alot of crazy stuff, but I lived and so will you.

good Luck
 
Marines definately have the most intense Basic Training by far. Sappersix has given you some great advice, but I would also throw in some decent strength gaining weight routines in as well. You will be much happier with yourself if you do.

Personally I went to the Air Force. I went in to gain a technical skill, so I wasn't worried too much about Basic Training...cuz theres is a joke. About half way through basic I felt like I jipped myself on the military experience by not going into a more physically demanding brandch, and I felt like that until I got out 2 years ago. That's the whole reason I started getting into weight lifting.

Whichever you decide to do, good luck, and just start busting your ass to get into shape. If you prepare yourself now, the less shock you will go through later. Also, just take basic one day at a time. Don't let them get in your head.
 
I am also training for military i have a book that is great you can find it it is very good i recomend it, follow these tips you will be nr 1 in bootcamp :D
 
The Captains Right

The Captain is Right in his training advice. Lot's of Push Ups, Lot's of Sit Ups, Run Forest Run!!! Good Deal, Captain...
 
Keep on Benching Andy...

the Army's basic training is a complete joke compared to that of the Marines.



that is an amazing guide to getting ready for boot camp

Keep on benching Andy, you'll learn the hard way. Weight training and endurance training two different ball games.

My D.I's loved to mess with the big guys...some couldn't do 20 push ups, wore down very quick. Keep talkin' Andy!!!
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHA

Were you serious?

Anyway, I'd be hitting the weights if I were you, flint. Take these folks' advice, cause it's your best bet.
 
Andy, don't waste your time with weight training, just hit the body weight ****, loads of pressups/situps/chinups etc. The corps won't give a rats ass what you can squat.

Get outside, get running. A lot. Do it on 3 hours sleep in the middle of the night. Do it when its red hot, ice cold or raining cats and dogs.

They'll get you fit. You just need to be ready mentally for whats coming. Where the mind wants to go, the body will follow ;)
 
I beg to differ. I believe that squatting will help him march with that ruck sack.

Of course, if he already has a 40 lb ruck sack, he can practice that.

And when I was younger, I was really, really weak. I could barely do a pushup. Hitting the weights got me to a level where I could actually progress, instead of being completely behind.

That is to say, flint may be able to do pushups and chins, but specific weight training will help him do more.
 
Perhaps squatting would help...

What I would do is walk around with a 60-80lb bergen getting my shoulders and brain used to the discomfort of it once after three or so hours it starts to try to dig its way through your shoulders. Get the crappiest most knackered bergen you can find, as this is probably what you'll get something like in basic.

I hear the USMC are big fans of three mile runs. I'd be getting out there and hitting the road, trails, paths, fields you name it.

All the bes too you, basic will be the easy part...
 
Here's the deal. (From another Army combat arms officer-been both enlisted infantry and Armor (tanks) as an officer,11 years total). For making it through basic, the only things that will really undermine you are pushups, situps and the 2 mile run. The minimum standards are all over the web if you search for them. (Look up 2006 Army APFT standards on google.) While you shouldn't shoot for the minimum, that will get you through. You have to be ready to do that minimum-at least- when you are cold, wet, tired and hungry, so that's why being able to do more is better.

Right now I am a commander at one of the Army's basic training centers, in charge of Drill Sergeants, so I can honestly say we see failures of every event come through here. Failing a ruck march time won't get you canned (you may have to redo it, but you will still graduate.) The only things that will hold you in basic if you fail is failing the pushups situps and run.

The best way to improve on pushups and situps? Keep doing them. If you have a friend to help, have him/her assist you when you get to muscle failure. If you don't, do modified PU's by going to your knees. As far as the run goes, interval sprints help a lot. Keep in mind though, 2 miles is more of an endurance event, and you have to mix distance running in too. If there is one event to come prepared for, it is this. In the Army, you will run all the time, (Depending on the unit you are in) and you need to get used to it.

The rest is just discipline. Getting up at 4 AM or not getting to bed at all sucks along with other Army hardships, but it's like preparing for a punch in the jaw. It's hurts no matter what. If your mind keeps focused on the endstate (graduating) you will find that you will be able to make it if you are determined.

You are young right now, IF you want this, then do it. It's something you can be proud of and tell your grandkids about one day. If you don't want to, that's cool too. It's a volunteer Army. If you are interested in a specific school or unit like airborne school or getting into the Ranger Regiment, get it IN YOUR CONTRACT. If your recruiter won't do it, walk away. The Army is always hiring, and that recruiter NEEDS your business. Make him work for it by getting you what you want. They even allow fresh recruits to sign up for the Special Forces training program now. God how I wish I could have done that when I was younger and less broken then I am. If you want that sort of thing, go for it now.

And as far as the Army's basic being a joke, I challenge that 15 year old to join up and go through Army basic and let us know how much of a joke it is afterward. While there is some intra-service rivalries, Marines and Army both respect each other, especially since we have been fighting side by side for each other's life in Iraq the past few years. They go to many of our schools and vice versa. The big difference in the basic trainings (or boot camp for the Marines) is that every Marine trains as a rifleman, and they all go through combat arms oriented training in Boot. The Army's Combat Arms Basics are fairly identical. Our combat support and combat service support basics WERE toned down, but they have strengthened them since the war began. I have been in Combat Arms my entire time, and I can say without a doubt you will find plenty of challenge here if you do the Combat Arms path.

One parting word: Make sure this is what you want. It's not the movies, it's not TV. The amount of time you will spend doing monotonous boring tasks will far outweight the time you spend doing "cool" exciting stuff. (Although there are many of those as well.) You will be cold wet and tired a lot. And oh yeah, there is that whole war thing. We have all lost good friends (I have personally lost 5 good friends including 2 Soldiers I led in my past Platoon over there.) It's hard and not fun. But it's my duty, and something I can say I sacrificed myself for. There aren't many jobs out there where you can say you know you may die willingly for when you go to work. If you do it, do it for the honor of it. Without a doubt, read the recent Sports Illustrated article about Pat Tillman (the issue with him on the cover.) If the military is right for you, it will inspire the hell out of you. (He was an incredible person, and a great role model and great Ranger.) If the military is not for you, it will most likely steer you away, and that's ok too.

Good luck, if you need further help or are interested in getting in a specific unit, let me know and I will help you out. Sorry my post was so long guys! Hope this helped.- Will
 
running, running and more running. For me it was the hardest part by far. You will be surprised how easy your body will learn how to do endless pushups and situps but the run...

The pace of your run is everything, learn the pace that will get you to pass the test. The morning run in formation is to slow to pass, you need to put a bit extra on it. As for the forced marches, most of those are mental, if you dont get shin splints they are cake.
 
Be prepared for high starch!

Be prepared for high starch and low protein diet; and no sleep...that's what I remember about Basic.


Wake up about every two hours in the middle of the night for bull**** fire guard...if your lucky, you won't have to be disturbed anymore than that due to grass drills, because someone screwed up.


Make sure you learn to eat real fast and run after you eat...I probably had less than 7 minutes per meal.

Learn to keep your hands out of your pockets.

Like I said you go in there bulky and your screwed...

Whether Marines or Army do not get a tattoo of either branch before entering, your screwed.
 
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