It's all about me

Val: That's hysterical....I have a feeling you could look 1000x "worse" and that would not be one of your problems:) You say stuff that reminds me so much of a friend of mine.....I have a feeling you two would get along.

:) Yes we would! I'm a good girl on here, in real life I say all sorts of things to people--sometimes for shock value only!!!

Only Child: I am, because my mom couldn't afford any more. I'm actually way more social than a lot of my friends with siblings--dunno why, I always had cousins and neighbors to play with--and I was in preschool for 2 years before kindergarten. One thing I'm glad of: I missed the inevitable violence between siblings. I'm very non-violent, actually never been in a fight.
 
Interesting perspectives on being an only child. Those sibling fights can get awful nasty but also lots of good times to share and remember.

Cym, I bet most of us on the forum scarf down our food. We just love our food, cantja tell? Yup, that's why we are constantly focused on it. But we have the choice of being constantly focused in a good, mindful way (by eating healthy and hanging out here) or in a bad way (like focusing on constantly eating whatever we want). The choice of not being so interested is simply not an option for us types. Oh well, you're dealing pretty well I would say!
 
I have had that scarfing food problem too. I don't even realize I'm doing it. I don't think I do it lately. But then I did just say I don't even realize I'm doing it. haha anyways I hope the sunache subsides and I also like it that you were able to transform yourself. Your mom gave some great advice ;) I moved around a lot as a kid and I always looked forward to being able to reinvent myself at each new school, but it never really happened and I always stayed the same. haha but I have to say that I'm much more outgoing and confident now than I ever was in high school. I think everyone just grows up at some point though. Hope you're having a nice night :)
 
Blancita: it's funny how we can do something and think "it's just me" when in reality it's a common trait. I actually thought I had "trained" myself to eat slowly - didn't realize I was still speed eating until I happened to notice how much food was left on my plate compared to everyone elses...kinda eye opening...the funny thing is - if this is how much slower I eat after more than a year and a half of practice, can ya imagine how fast I must have been eating when I wasn't paying attention to it at all:eek: ????

Lukewarm: I actually thought about you during my work-out this a.m.:) Cause, even though I don't think I ever responded, I've been wondering about what you said a couple of days ago about how much exercise (cardio wise) you thought you might have to do to maintain your loss. So, it got me thinking -- which is always a little dangerous:rolleyes:

I have no basis for saying this other than observation and personal experience - but I think the reason I maintain a constant weight on a limited amount of cardio is twofold: first, because I simply eat what I'm going to (or not going to) eat based soley on a weekly caloric range which has nothing to do with calories I estimate I've burned through exercise/activity on a daily basis. My exercise is always constant in the sense that I'm gonna do weights 3 days and run 1 or 2 days period. So I kinda ignore that aspect and focus on keeping the calories within the range that I've found that I neither gain nor lose. I guess if my exercise or calories varied wildly from day to day, or even week to week it would be harder.

And two, I think it has something to do with calorie burning and cardio. I'm thinking, if I didn't do weights, but just ran 5 miles every day, five days a week, 2 things would happen: 1) eventually I'd burn fewer and fewer calories through the running and would have to either run harder/longer or start to eat less 2) if I missed more than a couple days, but ate at the same rate, it would catch up with me real quick because my maint. range would be heavily dependent on burning a certain number of calories every day through cardio. Since mostly what I do is lift, which does not burn nearly as many calories as running, even when I take a brief break and continue eating the same amount, it only creates a slight caloric surplus, rather than the large one that would be created if I was running every day, stopped for week but continued to eat the same amount. I don't know if that really answers your question...or even makes any sense but that's why I think I get away with maintaining on what is a relatively small amount of cardo.

Tuesday food - selected in bold:

Sort of a mixed day -- some really good choices made: I turned down beer and wine in favor of water; picked flounder over cheese stuffed pasta shells at lunch and did skim milk in coffee vs. my normal daily cappucino. On the other hand I greedily devoured sausage with breakfast, had not one but two delicious little (in size, not calories) muffins, selected beef instead of chicken at lunch and...to add final insult to injury, ate a bowl of popcorn for dinner:eek:

fruits: 4-5 daily servings chosen from
apples, apricots, bananas, blueberries, canteloupe, cherries, figs, grapefruit, grapes, lemons,limes, papaya, pineapple, prunes, raisins, strawberries, tangerines, watermelon
***swapped blackberries for blueberries

veggies: 5-6 daily servings chosen from
artichokes, avocado, beets, broccoli, cabbage, carrots, califlower, chili pepper, daikon, garlic, ginger, mushrooms, onions, spinach, sweet potatoes, squash, tomatoes
***plus romaine lettuce

grain/nuts/seeds/legumes: 4-6 daily servings chosen from
almonds, black beans, black eye peas, buckwheat, bulgar, lentils, flax, oats, pumpkin seeds, rice, walnuts, wheat bran, wheat germ, whole wheat
***whole wheat in form of w/w bun
***two muffins that probably don't count as grain: one banana, one blueberry
***popcorn

dairy 3 daily servings chosen from:
yogurt, whole, skim/2% milk, cheese (any type)
***cheese type: cotage cheese & cheddar cheese

meat: 3 daily servings chosen from
chicken, turkey, fish
****fish type flounder
***eggs
***pork sausage
***ground beef

other: 1 daily serving each
olive oil
green tea


optional:
accounted for w/ meat & muffins:mad:
 
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A pic of me and possibl one of the coolest chicks I've ever met:
click on attachment : duo.jpg :jump:
 
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Oh you two look so cute!!

I have some friends who are border-line anorexic, and tow of them are GUYS. They and my girl friend eat weirdly--VERY VERY slow, as if they were in a contest about who could eat slowest. They ALWAYS criticized my scarfing, EVERYTIME!!! It actually made me really, really mad :mad: I would TRY to slow down, and just watch the food disappear from my plate as they stopped in the middle of their meal to talk or whatever. I understand this is the norm in like, Europe or something, but when I'm hungry, I need to EAT not chat!
 
Since mostly what I do is lift, which does not burn nearly as many calories as running, even when I take a brief break and continue eating the same amount, it only creates a slight caloric surplus, rather than the large one that would be created if I was running every day, stopped for week but continued to eat the same amount. I don't know if that really answers your question...or even makes any sense but that's why I think I get away with maintaining on what is a relatively small amount of cardo.

This post made so much sense to me...I always feel like my comprehension of this topic is just out of reach. I understand what you're saying a bit better now. I think I get a better grasp on this whole thing with each day. When you were losing weight did you still have the same program? I can't exactly remember if this has always been your plan, but I remember reading somewhere that you said you were consistently losing weight on 1600 calories per day. I don't think I could lose weight at 1600/day. The entire month of May where I didn't lose a thing, I was basically at 1400-1600 each day with exercising, and now that I'm hovering around 1300-1400 each day, I've lost approx. 2 lbs./week for June. Although I haven't really included weights yet. I do it a couple times a week and all but it's not consistent or planned. Your thread is always so interesting ;) I know that I have to lift. I think you're the best example of this. Like on Leigh Peele's signature where she has posted pictures of people she's trained and one of the girls said this: "I love that I barely have to work out in order to keep my body the way it is" and she looks like you, fit and toned! Have a nice day Cym.

:eek2: YOU LOOK SO HOT! You and your friend are beautiful! :eek2:
 
Lukewarm: yea, 1600 (plus one day a week at full maint. calories) is the lowest I ever went on a consistent basis, and that was pretty close to the end....I did try 1500 on a calorie bounce but that was a no-go 'cause it was just too hard for me to stay at 1500 for more than 2 consecutive days. Way back in the beginning I read this study that compared women who ate roughly 300 cals a day under their maint. (no matter how high their maint. cals happened to be) vs. women who had a traditional 1200 cal a day intake. The women with the smalles deficit had better long term complience and ended up losing just as much weight....and I'm such a little piggy I figured I'd go in the direction of MORE FOOD:) ...and if it didn't work I could always lower the cals.

and txs....that's the girl I wrote about the other day...I have much to learn from her about positive self body image...the pic does not do her bust size justice, but the smile on her face pretty much sums up her entire "I'm fabulous and happy with myself" attitude.
 
Wensday food

Well, it took long enough but I'm seriously no longer fearing that I won't be able to maintain my weight loss:jump: I was thinking about it when entering my yesterday foods. It would take as big and as deliberate a shift in habits, preferences and mindset to gain weight at this point as it took to lose the weight in the first place. I now totally retract what I said a couple of weeks ago about feeling that the whole "lifestyle not diet" phrase was overworked and irrelevant.

1. I truly cannot imagine my life without lifting (and all that entails from getting sufficient sleep and proper fueling my body)

2. the idea of "food for fun/comfort" rather than "food for health/fuel/strength" is almost an alien concept

I guess that qualifies as a "lifestyle change".

...and this is so cool. A couple of months ago when I was battling (hard) reducing my satfat intake I "discovered" fat free frozen choco pops. Yummy, 35 cals a pop, no sat fat and they didn't trigger me. But, once that box was gone I've never had any particular urge to buy anymore...not even once. It's like, okay, they don't do anything "bad" to me in terms of cals, fat, etc. - but I'm just not interested because they don't do anything good for me in terms of nutrients...they just taste good - and anymore that's just not a compelling reason, all by itself, to stick something in my mouth on a regular basis.

Just really content with food choices yesterday. I know the sat fat is low because of the meat and dairy choices and I know the protein hit the mark for the same reason, and no question about fiber. Looking at fruit/veggie/grain choices I'm satisfied that I got in a good variety of micronutrients as well.

I'm going to stick with the soy milk vs. 2% milk because I like the nutrient value more and I really can't tell the difference in taste when it's blended with other stuff. Also replaced ground turkey with turkey cutlets because the sat fat on the cutlets is practically zero. I also did not buy any ww flat wraps...which is going to force me to stop being so lazy and make wider selections from veggies/nuts/grains/legumes to get my fiber in.

foods selected in bold:

fruits: 4-5 daily servings chosen from
apples, apricots, bananas, blueberries, canteloupe, cherries, figs, grapefruit, grapes, lemons, limes, papaya, pineapple, prunes, raisins, strawberries, tangerines, watermelon***swapped blackberries for blueberries

veggies: 5-6 daily servings chosen from
artichokes, avocado, beets, broccoli, cabbage, carrots, califlower, chili pepper, daikon, garlic, ginger, mushrooms, onions, spinach, sweet potatoes, squash, tomatoes
***squash types: acorn
eggplant

***additional: corn on cobb

grain/nuts/seeds/legumes: 4-6 daily servings chosen from
almonds, black beans, black eye peas, buckwheat, bulgar, lentils, flax, oats, pumpkin seeds, rice, walnuts, wheat bran, wheat germ, whole wheat
***additional: popcorn

dairy 3 daily servings chosen from:
yogurt, whole, skim/2% milk, cheese (any type)
***substituted soy milk for 2% milk
***cheese types: 4-cheese blend (parma., mozz, colby, cheddar) + cottage cheese


meat: 3 daily servings chosen from
chicken, turkey, fish
****fish type: shrimp

other: 1 daily serving each
olive oil
green tea


optional:
sugarfree pudding
 
Cym, I really like your new system. I think once I get to my target weight, and have been there a few months, I may try that.
 
1. I truly cannot imagine my life without lifting (and all that entails from getting sufficient sleep and proper fueling my body)

2. the idea of "food for fun/comfort" rather than "food for health/fuel/strength" is almost an alien concept

This may be redundant, but please--exactly how long did it take you to get to this point?
 
I was silently disagreeing about the "lifestyle vs diet" comment from a while back. Its clear that you'll never be overweight again. You've taken your head out of the sand and aren't in denial about weight gain. That alone will save you from gains of over 5 pounds. And if you ever get a little less strict and put back on 5 pounds, you stop there and get back to discipline til it comes off. That's how people who have trouble watching their weight end up maintaining. We can't always be as strict as we want forever, but we can sure nip any resumed bad habits in the bud before our weight gets out of control.
 
CurvyGirl: Seriously? nearly 2 damn years. If I count from the day I knew something had to change because the problem had really gotten out of control...I was like a drunk who has to self admit that I was powerless over my addiction...everything in my life was suffering because of my ever increasing weight ...and yet I compulsively kept overeating, contributing to the problem. Part physical, part emotional, part behavioral...and I'm not sure what part was feeding into the other part(s)...which is why I spend as much time digging into my little psyche as I do the other aspects....and all I can say is, day by day, adding up to an accumulation of a LOT of days, some less fun than others, I'm starting to reach a point where I'm a different person in not just the way I behave, but the way my body looks and operates and the way I think and feel---a tall order and a lot of changes, practically a major overall:rotflmao: ---probably not required for most people, but in my case, being dead honest, it really was...I can only tell you that I'm just starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel...and I've walked a damn long, damn hard road just to see that distant light...which in the end turns out to have very little to do with the "final" number on the scale...and I don't know if this answers your question or makes sense to you...but it just feels like an inner truth to me...so I hope you can take something from it.
 
.and I've walked a damn long, damn hard road just to see that distant light...which in the end turns out to have very little to do with the "final" number on the scale...

I think I am focussing too much on what the scale says at the expense of exercising. Today I will try to get on the bike for a nice ride. I know once I'm out there it will be pleasant.

I really liked what you said in the quote.
 
I totally understand--thank you!
My turning point was Dec 26th 2006. I have done well, then regressed. I have things to blame, but ultimately I know the truth. You give me hope--6 months isn't a huge amount of time to change completely! :)
 
6 months isn't a huge amount of time to change completely!
At the six month mark I was still trying to rationalize choco cake as a "health food"..you know, it's got dairy, eggs, dark chocolate LOL
 
but I'm just not interested because they don't do anything good for me in terms of nutrients...they just taste good - and anymore that's just not a compelling reason, all by itself, to stick something in my mouth on a regular basis.

First of all, I hope that at some point I can meet all of my macronutrient requirements solely through my diet, rather than depending on supplements. I'm lazy with the cooking. Oh and I could have sworn I posted in here earlier...anyways, second, the above quote is very cool. Like the time you were gazing at the brownie, yeah it's good, but you wouldn't do it, because there's no benefit at all and just an insane drawback. Perhaps it's a bit like being in a relationship, (this applies to me at the moment, I'm totally dating my fridge) and seeing an attractive person, but not doing anything more than saying 'hm that person is attractive.' Would it be worth it to sacrifice a relationship/health for a quick affair with the delicious, warm, gooey...person/brownie? I like all of your posts Cym. People that are brave enough to delve into their psyche are enlightened and honest people, because it's scary in there :rotflmao: haha thanks for all of your help again!
 
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