It's all about me

Wow, 1468 calories -- I think I'd wake up from the grumbling in my stomach. And here I nearly consumed 3,000. Wish I could give you about 600 of mine!
 
So, instead of listing out my food today I'm looking over the last four months to access how I'm progressing with my multi-headed dragon of a nutrition goal. I promised myself way back when that once I more or less reached goal weight I'd spend the next year "learning to eat"....meaning going through daily life which includes holidays, random social events and TOM, at home and away from home, making food choices which would keep my weight under control and contribute significantly to my overall health. 'Cause shallow and vanity driven as I admit to being when I walk out my front door everyday ("Can her skirts get any shorter":rotflmao: ), I actually do care a lot about boring stuff like how foods impact my health..

So, first quarter down.....

Caloric goal: for finding and adhering to the best (i.e. sustainable) caloric range for maintaining my present weight I'm going to be cocky and say "A+" For the first time - ever - I am fully comfortable in this respect.

Protein intake: not that hard as I'm a carnivore and love dairy. I'm saying "B", over the last four months has increased from an average of 104g to 117g. But I have too many days where I get a 32g boost from protein bars, and the idea is to eat real food after all.

Saturated fat...the beast that just won't die. It's a B-, no doubt. I am now keeping it consistently below 20g but not by much - average 19g for last 30 days. The problem is, despite knowing how important it is, I truly despise most non-fat dairy, barely tolerate most low-fat dairy and like red meat, pork and dark poultry meat far more than I'm ever going to like seafood and white poultry meat. So it's always a struggle because of personal taste preference...saturated fat tastes damned good.

Fiber.....stupidly hard for me considering I how much I like fruits and veggies, nuts and grains - just not necessarily the ones containing the most fiber for the calories. But, despite the struggle, I'm pleased with how far I come with it. Over the last four months my daily average (over each 30 day period) has gone from 20g to 34. That's gotta be worth an A+.

Consuming designated nutrients on daily or weekly basis..yeah well, still working on that and falling short. Cause I get busy or lazy or forgetful or - probably most often - think "yeah, I Know I need to eat this but I want to eat that instead" and going for option b. So that's, at best, a C.

Not consuming the big three: tansfat, refined carbs, high fructose corn syrup. Since I'd rather eat live grasshoppers than transfat or hfc, but I gotta have the occasional sticky white rice, bean thread and pancit, I'll give it an A-.

Not sure what I should honestly grade myself overall, cause some things Know I'm doing really well, and others, I know I'm dropping the ball on. But, if I look at the big picture from where I started, when I honestly considered 2-3 pieces of fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy, a biscuit with butter, turnip greens cooked with ham, mac n' cheese and a slab of pecan pie with ice cream on the side a "balanced meal"...then I'll go with an "A" for effort and a "B" for execution. Not so bad.:)
 
A "B" for execution?? You are rather hard on yourself for someone who is so disciplined and admirable in every department. I think you are doing absolutely totally awesome A++++!

And good for you on being able to wear the short skirts! I think a beautiful body is worth showing off, though not in a tacky way obviously which I'm sure you're not.
 
Cym, when I get close to maintenance weight, I hope I can be as disciplined as you in maintaining my intake. You're my role model in that respect.
 
I would have to agree with Cita, you are an "A" in my book. I wish I could track as great as you do!! You are an inpiration to me!! And short skirts, YES!! if you can pull it off, go for it!! :jump:
 
1613

Blancita & Kim: At this point most of my food choices & tracking efforts are dictated less by discipline than by sheer repetition and habit ....I am worlds ahead of where I was - but worlds behind where I ultimately hope/expect to go in terms of fitness and nutrition. About the short skirts...probably wouldn't be so bad if I didn't tend to wear them with hooker heels and hoop earrings.:eek: ...I truly have tacky taste - but hey, at least I know it's tacky!:rotflmao:

Tom: You are such an adorable man!!!!

Here's the thing about keeping a maintenance journal as opposed to a weight loss journal. During the entire time I was losing weight I was searching around on site after site looking for someone, anyone who had lost a fairly significant amount (at least 50 lbs) and continued documenting their process/progress. I found very few journals that continued more than a month or so beyond goal weight.....not counting the people following an Atkins type lifestyle who for some reason tend to journal prolifically.....

Let's just say I've read LOTS of journals on lots of sites, enough to identify a pattern which i found scary but informative.

The first and biggest category: people who had journaled their loss in great detail, reached their goal weight, continued posting for a couple weeks at best, followed by a long gap, then resumed their journals with the announcement that they had regained a lot of the lost weight (usually about half) and were now getting back on board. Lots and lots of these types of journals on forums all over cyberspace.

The second category left me wondering "Is this true maintenance?": people who continued to post after reaching goal but somehow seemed to stuck be in mini-weight loss mode "I've regained 5 pounds....I've lost the five pounds, I've regained 3 pounds, I've lost the 3 pounds".

My goal is to be in category number three, which is admittedly tiny. People were no longer in the process of gaining/losing, but still keeping fairly detailed track of what they ate day after day, yes boring as heck but it spoke volumes to me. I decided that I too just want to be the boring chick who weighs the same day after day for 365 days while keeping track of her food. And maybe someone will be out there in cyberspace like I was going "okay, I know it's not magic or rocket science, but I just want to see the nuts and bolts example of someone who's kept it off".


Cals at 1603....right on target but woke up with raging appitite...just my body's gentle way of saying "enough of this deficit already" so back to low/mid range of maint. cals rest of week with a day of high end or even slightly over if something irresistable presents itself. Sat fat on target (barely) at 19g as usual, fiber great at 39g, protein a wee bit low at 96g.

liquids:
coffee, 16 oz
lime juice, 1 oz
water, 70 oz

fruit:
strawberries, 1 cup
tangerine, 1 small
banana, 1/2 small
apple, 1 small

veggies:
red peppers, 1/4 cup diced
tomato, cherry, 1 cup

dairy:
1% cottage cheese, 1/2 cup
mozz. cheese, part skim, 1 oz

meat:
ground turkey, 85% lean, 4 oz
chicken, 2 wings

nuts/seeds/legumes/grains
stone ground corn flour, 1/2 cup
vital wheat gluten, 1 teaspoon
almonds, 30 raw nuts
saltines, 2 crackers
w/w wrap, 1
black beans, 1/2 cup

other:
corn oil, 1 tablespoon
sugarfree cookie, 1
 
Cym, I plan to join you in category #3. Maybe there will only be a couple of us, but it's better than nothing!
 
1525

Not happy with yesterday's intake at all. Made shredded b-b-que (sooooo good) for lunch and we had left overs at dinner plus (my version of) apple tarts. I think the problem is I was careful about noting portion sizes but didn't really keep track of calories or micros because I was intending to hit a higher range and just mistakenly assumed the vast amount (20 oz) of meat plus dessert would do it. Um, no.

Calories at 1525! about 300 under what I wanted. Sat fat fine at 18g, fiber a bit low at 27g and protein only 87g which is crazy low, doesn't even meet my min. of 100g. Just off the bat I can see that If I had my usual olive oil and cappucino I would have been about 200 cals higher, and adding a couple of egg whites to breakfast and a 1/4 cup of brown rice to dinner would have put cals/fiber/protein in line without raising sat fat.

Liquids:
coffee, 16 oz
lime juice, 1 oz
water, 40 oz

fruit:
apple, 1 medium
tangerine, 1 medium
strawberries, 20 small

veggies:
cabbage, napa, 2 cups

dairy:
cottage cheese, 1%, 1/4 cup
sour cream, ff, 1/4 cup
mozzer. cheese, skim, 1 oz

meat:
beef, lean only, 20 oz

nuts/grains/seeds/legumes
ww egg roll wraps, 3
almonds, 33 raw whole
black beans, 1/2 cup

other:
pudding, sf/ff, 1 serving
molasass, 1 tablespoon

Total: 1525
Fat: 59 533 37%
Sat: 18 162 11%
Poly: 8 70 5%
Mono: 28 254 18%
Carbs: 166 559 39%
Fiber: 27 0 0%
Protein: 87 348 24%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%
 
1778

So, just random thoughts, the mental equivalent of me sorting laundry I guess.

1. Having a hard time deciding yes/no on dong "River Run" this year. It's only 10K which is a distance I can cover "just cause I wanna" on a good day, but it's a big race (in terms of number of participants and local media coverage) and I don't want to do it unless I have a some chance of coming in with a really good time. And that would entail stepping up the running component of my training which is presently only 1 day of HIIT and 1 day of SS. Still debating the pros/cons.

2. Spent a full hour of my life that I'll never get back (I hate when I do that!) reading a very long, very stupid thread on another forum...but the subject itself was one that fascinates me endlessly...so I kept reading through the "my study/education/experience is more relevant than your study/education/experience" pissing contest only to come up with this gem which summarizes my exact thinking in a way I've never been able to put into a coherent sentence...so it wasn't a total waste: "The primary importance of food is to provide essential nutrients and energy. Any food can provide the second, select foods provide the first. Sort the first, let the second come from whatever means actually allows the person to maintain their energy intake in the right direction."

3. Yesterday was this perfectly ordinary day...a.m. workout, playing on computer followed by the essential boredom that is my work on Monday's, having late night coffee with my gf's discussing the many flaws unique to the male gender. But, for some unknown reason I impulsively stuck this big pretty red flower (a Mother's day remnant) in my hair before leaving the house - a la Billie Holiday. And the reaction was so fun...elicited endless and profuse flattery from bosses, co-workers, friends and random strangers. So I'm walking around doing all this ordinary stuff but feeling special and extra cheerful because of it. And for some reason I thought about a comment I'd read on this site (can't remember who wrote it) about maybe one of the reasons for feeling "invisible" at a certain size is due to "hiding" - at the time I read it, I was not so much agreeing....but I know without a doubt that even a year ago I would not have been comfortable doing something so blatantly attention getting.

4. I now understand at least one of the reasons people kept encouraging me to "oh just have one" when they knew I was trying to lose weight. Fear. A friend of mine is (IMO) starving herself - she calls it dieting - and it's scaring the heck out of me. First, she's only overweight in her own head because she's comparing herself unrealistically to me and my best friend who work-out six days a week and generally worship at the alter of "clean eating", another friend who is a serious, hard-core runner and the rest of our little group who are just (unfair!) genetically programmed to be 5 foot nothing and 100lbs. Her "diet" consists of a few raw fruits, veggies and coffee. Period. After a week of this nonsense she is looking pale, weak and not so healthy. This coffeehouse we go to has these little sugarless chocolate cookies that are about 35 cals each. So last night we're sitting there and I pull out my ever present baggie of nuts and fruit. I spread some banana on a cookie, put some nuts on top and practically shoved it at her going "look, this is less than 100 calories, and it tastes good, just eat one". And even hearing myself say it I knew how it was coming across - cause I hated it when people said that to me.


Calories good at 1778, sat fat in line at 19g, 10%, wish I could consistently keep it a little lower, but for now I guess it's progress just keeping it under the 20g. Fiber too low at only 20g and protein fine at 156g. Oatmeal & egg white omlette instead of bacon and scrambled eggs for breakfast and a large apple instead of the drumstick would have been better choices for fiber while keeping protein over 100g.

Liquids
coffee, 20 oz
lemon juice,1 oz
water, 80 oz

Fruit:
Banana, 1/2 small
tangerine, 1 small

Veggies:
cabbage, raw, 1 cup shredded
turnip greens w/ turnips, 1/3 cup
tomato, 1 medium
recaito, 2 tablespoons

dairy:
cottage cheese, 1%, 1 cup
mozzer cheese, skim, 1/2 ounce

meat:
chicken, 1 small breast, 1 small drumstick, skinless
bacon, 5 thin strips
ground turkey, 85% lean, 4 oz
eggs,scrambled, 1/2 cup

nuts/grains/seeds/legumes
black beans, 1/2 cup
w/w egg roll wraps, 2 servings
peanuts, roasted, chopped, 1 tablespoon

other:
s/f cookie, 2

Total: 1778
Fat: 60 540 32%
Sat: 19 174 10%
Poly: 9 85 5%
Mono: 18 166 10%
Carbs: 150 518 31%
Fiber: 20 0 0%
Protein: 156 623 37%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%
 
So last night we're sitting there and I pull out my ever present baggie of nuts and fruit. I spread some banana on a cookie, put some nuts on top and practically shoved it at her going "look, this is less than 100 calories, and it tastes good, just eat one". And even hearing myself say it I knew how it was coming across - cause I hated it when people said that to me.

Sometimes you really can't help yourself from doing it with people... it's probably not the most effective approach but i'm not sure there really is a better one... you just wannt to help..
 
I thought about a comment I'd read on this site (can't remember who wrote it) about maybe one of the reasons for feeling "invisible" at a certain size is due to "hiding" - at the time I read it, I was not so much agreeing....but I know without a doubt that even a year ago I would not have been comfortable doing something so blatantly attention getting.

This could have come from practically anyone on WLF. I think it's a very common feeling when you're fat. . .
 
Hey cym, sorry I've missed your interesting posts lately. Will need to search you out better.

You're my type of chick with the heels and skirt, if you've got it flaunt it to use an age old expression. I'm only 5'2" so legs aren't my strong suit (more butt and boobs which I see from your pics you also have LOL).

Before I gained this weight I would fluctuate my weight by about 12 pounds. I honestly never knew about the scientific cals in v. out, so I really felt like I had little control. If I noticed myself bigger, usually around spring time, I would eat more healthy and cut back and just crank up the exercise, but with no identified goal and no real exacting idea how to get there. I would generally watch my weight loosely the whole time though as I've never naturally been thin like some of your and my friends. All very shadowy and semi-ish planned only. One thing that helped me was any time I noticed myself going up too much in clothing size, I would start cutting back or going to the gym more. I've worked out in gyms for the past 15 years but sometimes religiously and other times very sporadically. Basically it just wasn't an option to go above a certain size so I would get myself in check if I start eventually noticing myself much higher than normal. It worked for me, though I kind of like the control of the cals in v. out thing so I may just keep this up. It is true that many many obese people on the internet boards speak of losing all this weight only to sadly gain it all back. What a waste and a frustration that would be.
 
Funny thing. When I walk around naked first thing in the a.m. I'm always vaguely dissatisfied with my body...invariably the thought comes to mind that I should have gone ahead and lost that last five pounds before deciding to maintain. Then, I get dressed, and even it's my usually tatty work-our gear I'm instantly transported to "don'cha wish your girlfriend was hot like me?" mode. Pretty much sail through the rest of the day and night without giving a thought to my weight...doesn't even occur to me to weigh myself in the gym (I don't own a scale) unless it's my designated weekly weigh-in day. I guess the only solution for that is to REMAIN CLOTHED AT ALL TIMES.:rotflmao:

And, thinking about being body dysmorphic...my work-out partner is drop dead gorgeous...and has no clue - to the point where it would be irritating except that I know it comes from growing up in a family where she was always made to feel like the "ugly duckling" among her sisters. We're stretching after our workout this a.m. and one of the regulars came over and said "You girls are really looking great" and he didn't mean it in a sleazy, "I'm just a gym rat hittin on you" way, but she totally did this instant shut down and get paranoid/embarrassed thing she always does when someone compliments her. Amazing how much junk we bring with us from our childhood

Cals good at 1890, middle of maint. range; sat fat over by 3g, fiber great at 46g and protein on target at 104. Even though sat fat over, really would not have changed anything cause I just felt like hanging 'round the house doing not a lot of nothing, just eating randomly depending on appetite with no actual, single meal. First day of DFH back on the road for next three weeks...I hate to say it, but sometimes the relief of him leaving is almost equal to the excitement of his return...guess that's why I'm single.

Liquids:
coffee, 20 oz
water, 20 oz (bad, bad girl)

fruits:
grapes, 2 cups
tangerine, 1 small
apple, 1 medium
strawberries, 15 small/medium

veggies,
cabbage, 1 cup napa raw
tomato, 1 medium whole

dairy:
cottage cheese,1%, 1/2 cup
cream cheese, ff, 1 oz

meat:
spareribs, pork, 4 medium

grains/nuts/seeds/legumes
flat out wraps, w/w/, 2 wraps
almonds, 1 oz
walnuts, 1/2 oz
popcorn, 1/3 cup kernels

other:
olive oil, 1 tablespoon
 
Hi, cym. I think a lot of us have body dysmorphia to some extent. It's hard not to, when all you see in magazines are air-brushed photos and anorexic models. Even though I'm starting to get lots of complements on the way I look, I'm totally unhappy with things still, especially with no clothes on! That's why taking those pics in July will be a struggle for me, even with clothes on.

In the end though, this is just another issue we have to work through -- part of the healthy body, healthy mind package.
 
Even though I'm starting to get lots of complements on the way I look, I'm totally unhappy with things still, especially with no clothes on! That's why taking those pics in July will be a struggle for me, even with clothes on.
.

Interesting because I've seldom, if ever, met a man who admitted that his own body was anything short of near perfection...outside of weight loss forums. I've known plenty of overweight guys who've casually commented they needed to "lose five or ten pounds" when it was more like 50, plenty of overweight guys who wouldn't lose weight if you paid them because they were proud of being "the big guy" ...and goodness knows I've had more than one overweight male friend and/or relative who thought nothing of dismissing/making fun of/refusing to date women they considered overweight. It's a weird double-standard I've just grown up with and come to accept as normal I guess. But it's refreshing (and eye-opening) when I see a man saying he has issues with his physical appearance....way outside of my experience.
 
But it's refreshing (and eye-opening) when I see a man saying he has issues with his physical appearance....way outside of my experience.

LOL, underneath it all, I think a lot of men are very insecure about their bodies. Unfortunately, most men won't admit it until it's too late to do anything about it.
 
1999

In line with my long term goal of establishing really good nutritional habits, I'm going to go back to the template I was trying to work off several months ago and abandoned because my sat fat and fiber was all over the place and I had to learn to control that in better. Thinking I now have a somewhat more consistent handle on that (still struggling to reign in sat fat though), I'm going to try again.

I have a "big picture" scenario in my head of exactly how I want my basic diet to look in a year from now. Actually it's the same picture that's been in my head since the beginning On the one hand I get a bit frustrated with myself because I feel like I've been "working" on it for so damn long...on the other, more realistic hand, I know it's a long term process and I am no further along (or behind) than I should logically expect, especially when I've been dealing with weight issues on top of nutrition issues - which oddly enough sometimes conflict. I can't really continue to use that excuse now so I need to buckle down a bit.

So, in addition to staying within caloric range and keeping sat fat under 20g, fiber at 35g and protein (depending on cals) at 100-125g:

Liquids: combined 100oz
Fruits/Veggies: combined 6-9 servings
Dairy: 3 ff/low fat servings
Meat: 8 oz lean, (fish 3x week)
Grain/nuts/seeds/legumes: 6 servings

Calories at 1999, okay, but top end of range. Sat fat over by 4 grams (24g & 11%) because I polished off the rest of ribs. Actually cooked chicken, but it had an "off" smell and, not willing to risk it, I just chucked the whole pan and reheated the ribs. Fiber good at 38g but veggies somehow missing in action which is stupid because I have everything from bok choy to zucchini - just didn't eat any for some reason. Protein fine at 103g. Need to keep today at around 1800 and include veggies.

Liquids:
coffee,16 oz
ballerina tea, 6 oz
lime juice, 1 oz
water, 80oz

fruits:
pineapple, crushed, 1/4 cup
apple, 2 medium
banana, 1/2 small
grapes, 1 1/2 cup
blueberries, 1/4 cup

veggies:
missing in action:eek:

dairy:
ff plain yogurt, 1/2 cup
1% cottage cheese, 1/2 + 1/4 cup

meat:
pork spare ribs, 4 medium

nuts/grains/seeds/legumes:
w/w flatout wrap, 1 wrap
almonds, 1 oz
walnuts, 1/2 oz
buckwheat, 1/4 cup
popcorn, 1/3 cup kernels

other:
olive oil, 1 tablespoon
unsweetened cocoa powder, 1 tablespoon


Total: 1999
Fat: 93 833 42%
Sat: 24 212 11%
Poly: 17 154 8%
Mono: 41 368 19%
Carbs: 218 720 37%
Fiber: 38 0 0%
Protein: 103 413 21%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%
 
a lot of men are very insecure about their bodies.

*raises hand*

considering the damage I did and where I'm at now, I could live with it in ease - as long as I'm dressed LoL !!

Your 1999 post speaks volumes to me personally. It does get exhausting but I'll be damned if I can find it in me to give up - even when I want to. Do you agree we fall in love with what we do ?? ok, more like a love/hate ??

Your diligence is admirable cym - top shelf stuff :)
 
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