It's all about me

I think this perception will change. At least I hope it will for you.

Lyle is right, lean people who dieted down from a fatter spot are not the same as naturally lean people. Unfortunately.

Same goes for me though. I am naturally a "skinny bastard." Disgustingly skinny IMO when it comes to being an adult male. However, I relentlessly attacked what I did not like about my physical appearance until it changed.

Most don't have that kind of internal drive. I probably wouldn't have either if I did not grow up surrounded by health, activity, sports, etc. Our brains are wild pieces of machinery. Let them go, uncontrolled, for a long enough time and all of a sudden, you've got a lot of weeds growing in the garden, if you know what I mean.

I am currently helping my cousin, God love her. There are 6 of us who grew up together. She was always the fat one. Always. She is now 28 yrs old. For 27 years, her mind was cultivated to act as "the fat one." That is a lot of freaking cultivating!!!

And I am sure you know what I mean.

Being "the fat one" means for her, and many others I have helped:

a) exercise is not for me, nor is it fun

b) who cares if I eat poorly, I am already fat

c) even if I try to lose weight, it is just going to come back on

d) this is my body, like it or not, fat forever

And the list can go through many alphabets! These are just words here in this post, but a, b, c, d, and so on..... these are all absolute beliefs that are carved in stone in your subconscious mind.

For my cousin, I trained her perfectly. Went to the gym with her, showed her every single step that she should take. Exactly how to eat. When to eat, when to exercise, what not to do. I typed up program after program for her with explicit instructions. I made her tell me when she was unsure or unhappy with things, and we would adapt. Still, with so much attention to detail and adapting, she only adhered to the program probably 50% of the time. I could not force her to take action, nor would I.

Finally, I stopped what I was doing and started working on her thought patterns. As soon as we started focusing on that, there was an immediate increase in adherence. And it has improved to the point where she can honestly call this her lifestyle now. She lives and breathes it, not because she feels the need to, but rather, because she wants to. She started at 275, she is now 175ish. However, she looks freaking awesome.

Changing the carvings that have been repetitively carved in your mind since birth is extremely difficult. More difficult, I would say, than anything else related to making this change. Diet, EASY! Running, A CINCH! Lifting weight, SIMPLE! These things are easy relative to not only gaining control of your thoughts, but also changing them so that you are able to back your desires with your mind.

I have been meaning to write up an "article" about mental exercise, I just haven't gotten around to it yet. But if you ever want to talk about it, I am all ears!

Best to you Cym.

Until that is accomplished, it will always be a battle of, "man, is it really worth it." Or, "should I just take a break today."

It is understandable.

It seems like you are getting the best of it though. 1 day per month you say, sheesh, that is nothing. I even have those days.
 
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PS---If you're looking for more calcium, vanilla soymilk provides 30% of the RDA in 1 cup and it has only 60 cals. Not sure how you feel about soy products but I just thought I'd throw that out there.

cool....I didn't know that...and I like vanilla soymilk...what brand is this?
 
Steve: yes I know exactly what you mean about your cousin...I had every one of those thoughts and more as barriers to losing weight...esp. "who cares what I eat, I'm already fat"...that one alone probably accounts for 20 extra lbs. or how about "I'll eat this giant mega cal meal today...because tomorrow I'm really going to be strict":) said 3 days out of 4.

But you're right, it is in the mind...there's what I think of as a dieter's mentality...and I think I've successfully avoided it this time around. But, I'm like a two year old - standing upright and walking, but with the potential to fall flat on my butt at any moment cause I'm still growing and developing.
 
calories unknown- 2100???

Lovely, lovely b'day party! Stuck to my plan to eat as close to 1000 cals, 25g fiber, 100g protein as possible before 7 pm, hitting at least my min. targets, leaving plenty of room for whatever choices the night presented...and gosh were choices presented! Let me say that one table held an entire roasted pig with an orange(???) stuck in its mouth...it was that kinda party. I have no objection to pork, but I could just not work up any interest in eating anything with it's head still attached :eek: There was also blood soup. I'm sure it had another name, but that's what it was, black, pudding like soup made from blood - gee, no thanks. But there was lumpia - thin, crispy tubes filled with spicy meat, and ponzi - skinny brown noodles and shrimp, and these tiny little fluffy rolls made from sweet sticky rice and a sour/spicy soup with bok choy & shredded pork....so, before this decends into pure food porn....

I filled a plate with a little bit of everything I wanted to taste, munched on a lot of fresh yummy fruit which was available in abundance, drank some cold beer and it was all good. The only problem is I can't figure out how to enter it into Fitday. Oh well. The important thing (to me) is that:

1) I started off the day with a rational plan and stuck to it
2) I had fun which had nothing to do with how much I did or did not eat
3) As soon as I was full, even with tons of food still on my plate I stopped eating - just cause I wanted to...actually this one is kind of huge. The instant I realized my belly was "full", not stuffed, just full like after a normal meal, I just lost totally lost any interest in food.
4) My gift was the best one (okay, that has nothing to do with anything...but it was - it made her cry:)

And I'm sure people all over the world do numbers 1-3 without batting an eye and wouldn't find it interesting enough to bother recording...but for me this is still something new and wonderful...and I'm sitting here this morning feeling like, finally, after 32 years and counting, I'm actually in control of my food, rather than the other way around. Nice feeling.
 
And I'm sure people all over the world do numbers 1-3 without batting an eye and wouldn't find it interesting enough to bother recording...but for me this is still something new and wonderful...and I'm sitting here this morning feeling like, finally, after 32 years and counting, I'm actually in control of my food, rather than the other way around. Nice feeling.

Actually, I think they don't, which is why 2/3 of all Americans are fat. But way to go on that bday party!! That is just awesome. My wife is Filipino, and at Filipino get-togethers, every single person is convinced they must bring enough of their dish to feed every single person the equivalent of a meal. So you generally get plates with not just 15 or 20 lumpia, but a couple of hundred of them.

I think the dish you're talking about, if this was a Filipino party, is called diniguan. It's made from all the blood and guts. Very close to the German bludwurst, which I grew up on. The people in my wife's family were very impressed when I ate diniguan -- even most of them won't touch it. Of course, it's not very good for you anyway, with all that cholesterol.

Have a great weekend!
 
The only problem is I can't figure out how to enter it into Fitday.

Gosh, I struggle with this everyday. I can control the ingredients when I cook my dishes, but when I'm at my mom's house or at other parties, I'm not sure if they used olive oil, how much, fish sacue or no. When I learned how to cook from my mother in law and mom, they used their hands to measure everything. No tools that say a cup of this or a tablespoon of that, so when I cook and use my cups and such, they look at me funny.

About the roast pig, I would dig into that stuff like nothing! :D The males of the family usually take the head and grub on that first...*eww* Vietnamese have this blood dish, they call it blood pizza. *eww* That stuff I will not touch.
 
party

Mmmm fresh fruit and a cold beer. That part sounded good.


I'm glad you came to see me. I didn't post about my jog yesterday but I was out again for a long time, the first hour jogging 5 walking 2 was more effort but again I was able to ENJOY a 20 minute jog after that. I even jogged (well, to the best of my ability) up a hill and kept on going.

I was listening to Led Zepplin 3 and Pink Floyd Meddle. Both good rain music.

I'm aiming for that FEELING that I know is out there. Its mystical (hard to describe) but I guess its a deep satisfaction.

I weigh myself every day because I don't want to miss the day I go down and plus, I'm already in new territory with my weight and its kind of an affirmation that I'm remaining ten pounds below where I sat for five years. Its working for me for now.

YOU ARE IN CONTROL OF YOUR FOOD and obviously enjoying it guilt-free.
 
skinny jeans

Just showing my son your picture in your skinny jeans (had to see that again) and said , that's where I want to be. How do I figure that out. I guess if I calculate two pounds a month, which is what I've done so far this month, that's twenty four pounds in a year.
 
2051

I went 51 cals over maint. cals:eek: ...sat fat fine at 20g, fiber way too low at only 16g and protein higher than needed at 168g.

My friend had so much food left over from b'day party she had an impromptu kareoke party. I, thank goodness, had slightly less than a 4oz serving of pancit and one lumpia. Determined not to have a second day without being able to enter my foods in fitday I got the recipes for both, found a site with traditional filipino foods, made some adjustments for the variation and got the shock of my life: That single serving of pancit was nearly 500 calories!!!! I like pancit...in fact I like it a lot, but there is no single food in the entire world I like enough to spend 500 calories for a single (small) portion.:mad:

HappyChubette: I think it's great that you're running for "the feeling" not just to burn cals. You'll find as your fitness level increases that your body will almost instinctively "know" earlier and earlier when it's warmed up and ready for more speed...it's like it starts saying "okay, let's run now". I guess I'm easily amused because it still makes me smile when I feel my body shift into "go faster" mode:eek: ...about the skinny jeans pic...I actually love the pic cause it's the first one I had taken post weight loss, it's almost a year exactly from the time I started....but I sort of hate it too 'cause I was making some weird horses ass face when it was taken...I look demented!

liquids:
coffee, 16 oz
lemon juice, 1 oz
red wine, 1 1/4 3.5 oz glass
water, 80 oz

fruit
raisins/cranberries, .05 oz combined
banana, 1 med

veggies
cabbage, napa, 1 cup raw
carrots, shredded, 1/4 cup raw

dairy
yogurt, plain, ff, 1/4 cup
cottage cheese, 1/4 cup

meat
pork cutlet, 6 0z
chicken breast, 2/3 cup diced

grain/nut/seed/legume
whole wheat wrapper, 3
rye flatbread, 3
almonds,walnuts, 1 oz combined

other
olive oil, 1 tblspoon (+ amount used for to cook lumpia)
lumpia, 1 roll
pancit, (beef/pork) slightly under 4 oz

Total: 2151
Fat: 89 804 38%
Sat: 20 177 8%
Poly: 13 120 6%
Mono: 31 275 13%
Carbs: 158 567 27%
Fiber: 16 0 0%
Protein: 163 652 31%
Alcohol: 13 95 4%
 
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1266

Calories only 1266:eek: - I'm totally shocked. Sat fat at 14g and fiber at 27g okay, but naturally protein is low with so few cals. Sunday's have been the days that for over a year I've not put in my food until the next day, sort of a "free" day from counting the cals and monitoring the gram intake...every single Monday morning when I plug in the food I've come in at, or close to (either up/down by about 50) maint. cals, and over in sat fat...this is the absolute first time I can remember undereating by so little...

I'm guessing it's 'cause by 8pm I was really tired (been a super busy week-end) and fell asleep around 8 pm, missing my usual late meal. Normally I would not have worked out the day following so little food...but I didn't know it was so low when I hit the weights the is morning....and funny enough it was a killer routine this am....even to the point where some random guy commented on itwork-out...I'm only guessing my body was responding favorably to the whole previous week of at or slightly above maint. cals rather than just yesterday's low cal "ooops".


liquids
coffee, 16 oz
lemon juice, 1 oz
water, 60 oz

fruits
strawberries, 6 large
apple, 1 medium
tangerine, 1 medium

veggies
collard greens, 1/2 cup
carrots, shredded, 1/4 cup
onion, 1/4 cup
tomato, 1/4 large fruit

dairy
cheddar, 1 tablespoon
cottage cheese, ff, 1/2 cup
yogurt, 1/4 cup

meat
ground beef, 83% lean, 4 oz
bacon, 2 thin strips
eggs, 2/3 cup scrambled
eggs, white only, 2 whites

nut/grain/legumes/seeds
rye flour, 1/4 cup + 1 tablespoon
grits, 1/4 cup
black beans, 1/2 cup

other
olive oil, 1 tablespoon
whole wheat vital gluten, 1 tablespoon

Total: 1266 :confused:
Fat: 46 414 35%
Sat: 14 125 11%
Poly: 5 49 4%
Mono: 22 202 17%
Carbs: 136 434 37%
Fiber: 27 0 0%
Protein: 83 333 28%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%
 
Cym, are you Filipino? Married to a Filipino?

I'm mostly Polish, with a little Scottish, a lot of German, and some Indian mixed in (Mohawk or something like that), but my wife is pure Filipino.

We call our kids "Polipino".

Just asking, cause you're always mentioning a lot of my favorites like lumpia, pancit, etc.
 
Tom: no, my mom's black and my dad's dominican...but for some reason pretty much every single one of my close friends are filipina...I always say it's because I have a complex about being such a shorty...compared to my girlfriends I am as tall as a supermodel LOL.
 
1673

Cals at 1673, aiming for 1700-1800. Sat fat at 15g, fiber 40g and protein 113g. A single serving of fish would have put cals and protein closer to where I wanted without affecting sat fat....but overall satisfied. Not sure I could have shoved it in anyway, hard enough getting in the amount I did cause I just wasn't that hungry. In fact, if I had been eating solely based on appetite I would have stopped at under 1200...I noticed months ago that sometimes a super intense weights routine early in the am just kills my appetite for the rest of the day and into the night. But no complaints cause I'd rather eat just cause it's time to eat without being all that hungry than have that weird "feed me now Seymore" feeling I had 24/7 when I was trying to keep cals at 1500 on low cal days.

I've decided I'm slightly body dysmorphic - but I'm cool with it:cool: . Had a long conversation about it with a new co-worker last night. She lost 35 pounds (before I even knew her) and is now a very petite girl. So we're sitting there at dinner and she's going on about losing the last bit on her thighs and I'm going on about losing the last bit off my tummy. Her thighs look perfect to me, my tummy looks perfect to her and our co-workers are laughing and telling us we're both nuts. But, even though I don't see her thighs as being flabby or needing any work at all, I understood her internal dissatisfaction because I share it...it's like there's this particular aesthetic we were both going after from day one- and no matter what other people do or do not see, we will not 100% happy until we achieve it.

Of course mine is now put on temporary hold until I figure out exactly how to get the body fat down a little lower without triggering the hunger hounds of hell (my affectionate nick-name for my fat related hormones).

liquids:
coffee, 21 oz (uh oh)
lemon juice 1 oz
water 80 oz

fruits
banana, 1 whole medium
pineapple, 1/4 cup canned, unsweetened
canteloupe, 1/4 small melon
apple, 1 medium

veggies
onion, purple, 1/4 cup diced
broccoli, 1 cup cooked
olives, black, 6 medium

dairy
cottage cheese, 2/3 cup
yogurt, ff, 1/2 cup

meat
ground beef, 4 oz 87% lean
bacon, 1 thin strip
chicken breast, 3/4 cup diced
egg. 1 whole

nuts/seeds/legume/grains
buckwheat, 1/4 cup
oats, rolled, 1/2 cup
whole wheat eggroll wrappers, 3
pistachios, 2 oz (unshelled)
black beans, 1/4 cup
saltines, 1 cracker

other
olive oil, 1 tablespoon
pudding, sf/ff, 2 servings
baker's chocolate, 1 tablespoon

Total: 1673
Fat: 56 503 31%
Sat: 15 138 9%
Poly: 9 85 5%
Mono: 22 202 13%
Carbs: 202 648 40%
Fiber: 40 0 0%
Protein: 113 450 28%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%
 
You have a great deal of discipline and will power, and a great attitude too. I always get inspired reading your journal.
 
Thanks Tom, believe me I get my daily shot of inspiration from reading your diary as well. And, in all honesty, I really have very, very little willpower - never have had.....and the discipline (which I freely admit to) is a fairly newly aquired mindset. I've just spent the last year (plus) literally training myself to exercise self-discipline...sorta like a prolonged boot camp of the mind:)
 
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